Brady's Postseasons By Comparison (Weis vs McD and OB)

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    I think I'll start an Antowain Smith one then and we can check in on his overweight azs down in Texas at age 40.

    He's got 2 rings and isn't any better than BJGE was here.

    He just got more carries here under Weis. That's the difference. Glad I could expose another moron who doesn't know the game.

    All of a sudden a Bills castoff named Antowain Smith is somehow vastly superior to what BJGE did here in 2010 and at the start of 2011, before getting hurt. Laughable.

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    Antowain Smith in 2001 was most definitely better than BJGE ever was here.  He put up almost 1200 yards and 12 TDs on a team that had an inferior OL and skill players and a rookie QB.  The guy was a 1st round pick for a reason.

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    have you ever seen the guy in person ...?  He came to vt with Kraft and the Lombardi back in 02...  The guy is huge.  6-5 250  with speed .  Looks bigger than that.   I'll take cast offs like that any day.

     

     
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    Re: Brady's Postseasons By Comparison (Weis vs McD and OB)

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    He was a good player, yes. So was BJGE. SO is RIdley.  So is Bolden.  That's the point. Smith was used MORE than we use our RBs now.

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    Actually Ridley is on pace for about as many carries as Smith had in 2001.  On that note we are seeing what happens when a team tries to use BJGE as a feature back.  He is on pace for almost 300 carries this year and the results have been less than stellar.  And before you complain about the cast in Cincinnati remember the comparison here is to Smith in 2001.  We weren't nearly as loaded at the skill positions as we are now.  Belichick has already been on record saying if a guy is worth 300 carries he will get them.  Obviously he didn't deem BJGE worthy which is also evidenced by the fact that he chose to pay Smith while letting BJGE walk.

     
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    Listed at 6-2 230.  With shoes on 6-3,6-4.  Huge neck and head.  I thought he was 6-5. Oh well, can't always be right. I'm 6-0, 200.  I wouldn't want to tackle him.

     
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    antowain smith was a beast of a man no matter how tall he is.

     
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    Belichicks arrogance plays in here since he MINIMIZED the OC position after Weis left in 2005 . He refused to name an OC and stated contemptfully to the media :

    "The plays will get called..."

    little did he know that big game deficiencies would show up...  He might have been taking his defense for granted, again trying to minimize the importance of OC strategy and execution .

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    mind meld.

    i have been chirping about this for years.

     
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    BJGE had one good season. He had Crumpler, Hernandez, and Gronk blocking for him. Take away Crumpler and get turf toe - and you get an okay running back.

    Law firm RARELY could break one over 10 yards. I think Ridley has had more runs over 10 yards in the short time he has been here vs. BJGEs entire career here.

     
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    Re: Brady's Postseasons By Comparison (Weis vs McD and OB)

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    Brady's postseason effectiveness has less to do with the coaches and more to do with the effectiveness of the defense and kicker.

     

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    always said this...it doesnt take away from his greatness though, all the greats had help and great players around them

     

    You mean the defense that pissed away a 17-3 4th quarter lead to the Rams in 2001? Or the defense that pissed away a 21-10 4th quarter lead to the Panthers in 2003? I seem to remember Brady had to save the day in both those Super Bowls.

    But hey, those defenses had great regular season stats. That's all anyone seems to care about around here.

    Also, Vinatieri was 1 for 3 in the Panthers Super Bowl. It's funny how we misremember history.

     
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    It seems that way but nobody else I'd rather have. Wasn't he like 10-0 to start? Hes thrown more interceptions the past few years in playoff games but I'm not sure why because he's thrown less in the regular season than he did his first 5 years.

    Its hard to figure out why, it sure doesn't look like his skills have eroded much. The loss to the Jets in that 2010  playoff game wasn't just Brady, the whole team came out flat. The tight end dropped pass in the end zone killed them. Much as I hate to say it I'd put that one on coaching, they were too confident and got beat by an inferior team.

     
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    We have lots of people here who are only fans of part of the team. They either don't like Brady, or don't like Belichick, or the defense. They all have their flaws but they will come together come playoff time. None of them are perfect, and they can all frustrate at times but this fan isn't going to sit here and bash any part of the Patriots.

     

     
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    Re: Brady's Postseasons By Comparison (Weis vs McD and OB)

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    It seems that way but nobody else I'd rather have. Wasn't he like 10-0 to start? Hes thrown more interceptions the past few years in playoff games but I'm not sure why because he's thrown less in the regular season than he did his first 5 years.

    Its hard to figure out why, it sure doesn't look like his skills have eroded much. The loss to the Jets in that 2010  playoff game wasn't just Brady, the whole team came out flat. The tight end dropped pass in the end zone killed them. Much as I hate to say it I'd put that one on coaching, they were too confident and got beat by an inferior team.

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    Dude, it's not hard to figure out why.  I've explained it many times and all the sources are in this very thread, most of it in the 1st post as to why.

     

     

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    Still waiting for the answer to that simple math question I asked you last night. 

    Figure it out yet?

    Meanwhile, here's what Mankins said about the running backs today. 

    No wonder you don't like him, even he's bashing you. LOL

    On the Pats running the football as successfully as they have.
    "Every year we've wanted to, it's just sometimes we didn't. A lot of that goes on the players. If you don't do it good, the coach isn't going to keep calling it
    . I think this year we've been pretty productive, and it goes down to the backs. The backs have been outstanding. [Stevan] Ridley's run great, breaks a lot of tackles, and the line's done a pretty good job, the tight ends have done a good job, and we've hit a lot of longer runs this year too. And that goes down to the receivers getting blocks downfield, it's just a good team effort on that, and when everyone is doing the right thing it's been pretty good."

     
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    Re: Brady's Postseasons By Comparison (Weis vs McD and OB)

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    I am glad Mankins is being hard on himself and taking the heat, but that still doesn't counter my premise.

    The irony is, when he hasn't been out there and they have run it this year, the offense has looked great. When he;s played, and not run it as much with a lead back, we've lost or not done as well.

    Poor Logie.

    WHat is the math question? I left and went to bed, so I have no idea what you're talking about. What page is it on or what is the question?

    I am still waiting for your take a simple wager that backs your premise of 40+ passes against good Ds not mattering.

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    Is that what I said, mr delusional?    Did I say it didn't matter.  Nope!  Not only can you not figure a 4th grade math question, your reading comprehension level is even below that.  So Sad!.   You know the question, you've replied to every one else, just not me..

    Do you actually read other peoples post or just drop your dribble on every post regardless of the matter.   Just like a dog that can't resist a tire...even when it's running over him.  LOL

    PS, loagie is not being hard on himself,  He's saying when the run game is not working, the COACHES don't call it.  Period!  But any one with eyes not clouded by agenda, can see that!

    Guess that leaves you out.

     
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