Brandon Lloyd a NE Patriot.

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    In Response to Re: Brandon Lloyd a NE Patriot. : Lol late at night I meant McDaniels. Didn't help there was a McDonalds comercial on when I was typing. 
    Posted by PatsEng


    hhaha. I see. Hate when that subliminal stuff happens.

    I seriously thought you had some inside info on that McDonlad slot WR guy giving Lloyd FA advice or something.  That guy who played with STL and then I think went on to Detroit later. Not even sure if he's still in the league.
     
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    Re: Brandon Lloyd a NE Patriot.

    Couldn't be happier! This guy will make big difference here. Teams already had nightmares on stopping our offense. Gronk , Welker , A.H. and Lloyd is an amazing rec. corp to have. Lloyd reminds me a little bit of what Ocho used to be. Someone who could do a little bit of everything. Work the sidelines , beat you on a post or double , great hands , good feet. Great deal as well. He def. took less in coming here.
     
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    we now have an abundance of WR's. gonzales, endelman, welker, branch, ocho, lloyd, slater, underwood, hernandez (TE/WR)
    Posted by natesubs


    my guess is that welker, lloyd and hernandez are surefire to stay with the team.

    unless vereen is ready to return kicks or punts, it will be hard to let go of edelman (also can be the back up slot) and slater.

    i'd like them to pick up one wr with any of the 2nd or 3rd rnd picks.

    where does that leave underwood, branch, ocho and gonzales (can't return so he's not going to be more valuable than edelman)?
     
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    Re: Brandon Lloyd a NE Patriot.

    Here's the preliminary roster, top 53. Just think we have 6 picks in the top 130.  Those picks will all make the 53 so 6 of the below have to go.

    Ocho
    Underwood
    Polite
    Williams
    Brown
    Barrett

    are some candidates.  I hear we're talking to Daniel Fells too.  He'd be an excellent #3 TE.  Really solid player.  I wonder if we are still thinking about Landry.  We're nearly out of cap space I think.

    Current 51 Top Salaries 2012
    OFFENSE 26 Players
    Slot31 W Welker '1226 Edelman '12Gonzales '12
    WR31 B. Lloyd '1427 M Slater '14 
    LOT33 M Light '1223 N Solder '15 
    LG31 Mankins '16  
    C30 D. Connolly '1426 Wendell '1325 N. McDonald
    ROG35 B. Waters '1227 D Thomas '12 
    RT27 Vollmer '1224 M. Cannon '14 
    TE23 Gronkowski '1322 Hernandez '13 
    QB35 Tom Brady '1426 Hoyer '1224 Mallett '14
    RB23 S. Veeren '1426 Woodhead '12 
    23 S. Ridley '1430 L Polite '12 
       
    WR 34 Ochocinco '1326 Underwood 
        
    DEFENSE 24 Players
    DE 30 J Fanene '1426 Pryor '13 
    NT30 Wilfork '1425 R. Brace '12 
    DE25 Deaderick '1326 Love '12 
    OLB28 T Scott '1224 Cunningham '13 
    ILB26 Mayo '1625 Fletcher '12 24 J Tarpinian
    ILB25 B Spikes '1331 T White '14
    31 Koutouvides
    OLB29 Ninkovich '13  
    LCB23 Dowling '1423 S Moore '1222 M Williams
    RCB26 McCourty '1426 Arrington '12 
    SS25 Chung '1227 J Barrett '12 
    FS 29 S. Gregory '1424 S Brown '13
     
    SPECIAL TEAMS 3
    PK28 Gostkowski '14  
    P25 Z. Mesko '13  
    LS24 D Aiken  
     
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    I wasnt impressed with Barrett at all, if thats a start.Sergio Brown was another problem. These guys are not the game changers even for back-ups. This team needs a Saftey in the worse way. Again, I keep saying one that thinks, outsmarts the QB. I want a QB in the backfield. Harrison was smart, very smart. He could anticipate, and also bait the QB. Thats what I want.
    Posted by bobbysu


    Sergio Brown is a disaster, I've never seen a guy wiff so badly at jamming wide receivers. One time I saw him wiff so bad I thought BB must be teaching him some new technique or strategy...just let the guy run right by you at the line and get open 20 yards down the field.
     
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    Re: Brandon Lloyd a NE Patriot.

    On paper, we have added to our offense, but really haven't done anything to address our pass rush.

    I didn't think we really stood a chance at Williams, but I was really hoping we'd make a solid run at Abraham.

    I'm sorry, but I still feel deflated overall with our free agent signings.

     
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    On paper, we have added to our offense, but really haven't done anything to address our pass rush. I didn't think we really stood a chance at Williams, but I was really hoping we'd make a solid run at Abraham. I'm sorry, but I still feel deflated overall with our free agent signings.
    Posted by 4Adam13


    The draft
     
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         Lloyd is a terrific addition for the Pats(outstanding route runner and very good on short,intermediate and long routes,great hands,smooth in and out of cuts to get separation and gives them some size at the position).The FS spot is open but in Gregory they have a very smart guy with good ball skils,in man coverage remember he was a corner and could still play it in nickle or dime,is a good hitter for size,has an excellent work ethic and even helps on special teams if neccesary.As someone said in an earlier post,he also reminds me of ex-Pats FS Wilson.He certainly isn't as flashy,big or as fast as Landry but he also is no where near as expensive,I believe he is better in man coverage and there isn't a serious question about his health.Whoever signs Landry had better do an extremely intesive medical exam as he opted against surgery for a bad achilles and be ready to spend a considerable number of dollars.If landry were a sure thing health-wise I'd be after him like a hungry dog after a bone simply for his athleticism but,and it is a big but,he isn't.
     
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    Nice! They have improved their roster and the draft is still a month away. Thanks to our outstanding General Manager the Patriots are going to be a better team. Too bad we all had to suffer through the 37-11 rebuilding years.
    Posted by 15315k




    lol classic
     
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    Gronk and Hernandez make the WR's very scary Lloyd and Ocho are not '07 Moss and Stallworth, don't pretend you'd want them over those two... but with the TE's we have, the Lloys signing just made everything complete and impossible to defend
    Posted by rameakap



    for several years now, people here, including myself, have been saying the offense is unstoppable/impossible to defend - yet can's score more than in the teens in the playoffs. let's hope this changes that.
     
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    On paper, we have added to our offense, but really haven't done anything to address our pass rush. I didn't think we really stood a chance at Williams, but I was really hoping we'd make a solid run at Abraham. I'm sorry, but I still feel deflated overall with our free agent signings.
    Posted by 4Adam13


    They have actually done very well in free agency. Mario was the prize pass rusher but his price was way too much, its not how the Patriots build their roster. Depth over one guy. The Patriots were 14th in the league in sacks last year and one sack away from being in the top ten. They had more sacks than both the Steelers and the Jets. One never knows what Belichick is going to do in the draft but he certainly has the picks to continue to improve the pass rush. Both Scott and Fanene can get after the Quarterback and most likely they bring back Carter too. 
     
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    I think it's pretty cool he wanted to come here.  Speaks volumes. With Ochocinco taking a cut and being healthier than Branch, I look forward to Brady not throwing INTS on 1st downs in the playoffs.
    Posted by BassFishing


    That one time that that happened??
     
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    Re: Brandon Lloyd a NE Patriot.

    Very nice. LLoyd adds a new aspect to this offense and he should help clear up the middle for Wes, Gronk, and Hernandez a little bit more.

    People say he only had one good year. I must disagree slightly with this. Last year, he was caught in a bad situation with STL and their injuries at QB. The fact that he still managed to gather 966 yards in 15 (yes 15 not 16) games is pretty nice IMO.
     
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    Re: Brandon Lloyd a NE Patriot.

    Some of the ESPN  fan's comments sites regarding the Lloyd signing are laughable. The Patriots have to be one of, if not the most envied and hated team in pro sports. 

    Looks like this will be yet another long and frustrating year for Patriots hater's nationwide.
     
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    Some of the ESPN  fan's comments sites regarding the Lloyd signing are laughable. The Patriots have to be one of, if not the most envied and hated team in pro sports.  Looks like this will be yet another long and frustrating year for Patriots hater's nationwide.
    Posted by 15315k


    I sometimes read the comments just for some of the funny posts in them :). But ya, haters gonna hate.
     
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    Do the Patriots still go after that speedy WR in the 1st or 2nd round?  I could see it happening in the 4th round.......
    Posted by Rocky


    i take a big outside guy in the 2nd plenty should be there (unless bb istempted and hil makes it to us). and a slot in 3rd 4th or udfa. some realy good guys there.
     
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    In Response to Re: Brandon Lloyd a NE Patriot. : I'm glad he signed for reasonable money and hopefully people will understand that he's not really a deep threat. At least he's not some dope that won't understand the offense (see Ocho Cinco)...nor is he at the age when he's lost too many steps (see Ocho Cinco).  Now all we need to do is get some people that can play in the secondary, some linebackers that can cover and two 34 type defensive lineman that will keep Vince from getting doubled virtually every single play. Maybe then we will be able to force a team to at least one three and out during the Super Bowl.  
    Posted by mthurl


    "Now all we need to do is get some people that can play in the secondary, some linebackers that can cover and two 34 type defensive lineman that will keep Vince from getting doubled virtually every single play. Maybe then we will be able to force a team to at least one three and out during the Super Bowl.   "

    good post!
     
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    That's a pretty cool picture of Lloyd (a guy that obviously likes Brady...unlike one guy here). I wonder why Lloyd took less money to come catch passes here? Geez it couldn't be because of Tom Brady, could it? Nah it's got to be because of our mastery of the NFL salary cap.
    Posted by mthurl


    mcdaniels was far and away the #1 reason. he has said so.
    2ndly a super bowl contender.
    3 brady (kinda goes hand and hand with #2)
     
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    In Response to Re: Brandon Lloyd a NE Patriot. :      The terms seem surprisingly reasonable. It does appear that Lloyd took less money to play for the Pats. 
    Posted by TexasPat



    appear?
    i think he could have gotten a contract dwarfing this elsewhere. it seems evidently clear. ie see garcon's 40 mil $ deal.
     
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    One quality Lloyd has is exceptional route running ability. Everywhere he has been the most positive aspect of his game has been his ability to get open and often of deep routes. He may not have that Mike wallace style speed that leaves people in the dust but he makes up for it in knowing where he has to be at every point of his route getting in and out of his breaks crisper then most WR's, add to that is vertical (still reportedly 36" plus) and his plus hands and you get the circus catches as well. I am all over this and like I said months ago if he isn't a Patriot I would be shocked! Landry is next I think, he wants to make a stop with the Jets but why would he go there even if it was for a bit more money when you can play here for several more chances at a championship.
    Posted by DaBlade


    " Landry is next I think, he wants to make a stop with the Jets but why would he go there even if it was for a bit more money when you can play here for several more chances at a championship."

    yep, re landry, depends if he has a brain.
     
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    Re: Brandon Lloyd a NE Patriot.

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    In Response to Re: Brandon Lloyd a NE Patriot. : They have actually done very well in free agency. Mario was the prize pass rusher but his price was way too much, its not how the Patriots build their roster. Depth over one guy. The Patriots were 14th in the league in sacks last year and one sack away from being in the top ten. They had more sacks than both the Steelers and the Jets. One never knows what Belichick is going to do in the draft but he certainly has the picks to continue to improve the pass rush. Both Scott and  Fanene can get after the Quarterback and most likely they bring back Carter too. 
    Posted by 15315k


    They have done ok. It remains to be seen whether or not Fanene will be much of an upgrade to Carter and Anderson, who although had good seasons, were above average. Let's face it, Anderson is probably out of here, and even if we were to sign Carter, players are seldom what they were prior to injury. So I don't see how big of an UPGRADE we have made defensively with the pass rush. I don't care about comparing to the Jests from last year.....they were a horrible team. Our defense has too many role players.

    Wozzy......Given our picks, I don't see us landing a dominant pass rusher unless we really trade up, which is more doubtful than if we had signed Peyton. Maybe I'm wrong...I hope I am. What are your thoughts on the draft?
     
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