Brandon Spikes sex tape

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    From the team level and getting a fine from Bill and the team? Yes thats entirely possible. I doubt Goodell can do anything as this was something from college but from the team yes they can easily fine him for this. Wouldnt doubt it if Vince or someone else got in his face about this as well in the locker room. 
     
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    This is stupid. If they fine or suspend him, then they should fine/suspend Cromartie for having 15 kids out of wedlock and being too stupid to know how to use a condom. 
    As good as Spikes is, he's still a kid. If he's not taking drugs, beating women up, killing dogs, or anything else that is "illegal", then the NFL and Pats should leave him alone. Amen.
     
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    MVP,
    Big Ben did not just have sex. He supposedly had sex with an "unwilling" participant. Which in some civilized countries is referred to as rape. The Spikes video looks like 2 willing participants...therefore, no illegal act here. Ben got lucky in that nothing could be proven, but it was alleged. So, therein lies your difference.
     
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    [QUOTE]I have seen a few people on here say "fine him for what?" "sex is legal its only poor judgement"....I hate to be the one to point this out to you guys but Big Ben did not break any laws, he too "just had sex" and as you  keep saying "sex is legal" and Big Ben too made poor judgements which is why he was suspended. So why you would think Spikes is safe I have no idea.
    Posted by MVPkilla4life[/QUOTE]

    Do I really have to point out the difference between sexual assault and consensual sex? 
     
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    LOL good call. 


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    [QUOTE]Also it is just a little weird that a bunch of dudes on a football forum would be suggesting to each other that they look up a male football player's sex tape....lol just saying i can see us all rushing out to see one of the Pats cheerleaders on tape but Spikes? I know you all have *boners for this guy but i didnt think it went that far. I dont need to flash back to his c*ck every time he makes a play so NO I will not be looking this up.
    Posted by MVPkilla4life[/QUOTE]
     
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    [QUOTE]Oh so you guys can clearly link me to the web site where it says Big Ben was convicted of rape then? Its not what you know its what you can prove and no one could prove he did anything except make "poor judgements" which is exactly what people have just said about Spikes. I too think Big Ben raped that girl but that was not why he was suspended he was suspended for making "poor judgements" that made the NFL look bad which is exactly what Goodel could say about Spikes.
    Posted by MVPkilla4life[/QUOTE]

    I can't point you to any rape conviction, no.  Nor can I cite the case where OJ was convicted of murder.  I can point you to two separate allegations in graphic detail of what Roethlisberger has been accused of.  If it were my daughter in either of these cases, I'd want to off the SOB.  He wasn't suspended for poor judgment, he was suspended because he's apparently a serial rapist (allegedly).  I don't see how a guy getting filmed receiving sexual favors from a willing female is comparable, but maybe it's me, moral relativism being what it is these days.
     
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    It will make him a rock star..."as long as it was not two dudes" 
     
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    [QUOTE]LOL because im a guy and this was on a news site thats creepy? Grow up
    Posted by Pancakespwn[/QUOTE]

    You had me with the Avatar..
     
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    In Response to Re: Brandon Spikes sex tape:
    [QUOTE]I have seen a few people on here say "fine him for what?" "sex is legal its only poor judgement"....I hate to be the one to point this out to you guys but Big Ben did not break any laws, he too "just had sex" and as you  keep saying "sex is legal" and Big Ben too made poor judgements which is why he was suspended. So why you would think Spikes is safe I have no idea.
    Posted by MVPkilla4life[/QUOTE]

    Big Ben was accused of "sexual Assault" by more than one woman....there is a big difference between that and getting down on tape consensually...

    enough of this topic, I can't believe I typed "consensually" on a Patriots thread...
     
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    http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/21598/nfl-personal-conduct-policy

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    All persons associated with the NFL are required to avoid “conduct detrimental to the integrity of and public confidence in the National Football League.” This requirement applies to players, coaches, other team employees, owners, game officials and all others privileged to work in the National Football League. 

    For many years, it has been well understood that rules promoting lawful, ethical, and responsible conduct serve the interests of the League, its players, and fans. Illegal or irresponsible conduct does more than simply tarnish the offender. It puts innocent people at risk, sullies the reputation of others involved in the game, and undermines public respect and support for the NFL. 

    STANDARD OF CONDUCT 

    While criminal activity is clearly outside the scope of permissible conduct, and persons who engage in criminal activity will be subject to discipline, the standard of conduct for persons employed in the NFL is considerably higher. It is not enough simply to avoid being found guilty of a crime. Instead, as an employee of the NFL or a member club, you are held to a higher standard and expected to conduct yourself in a way that is responsible, promotes the values upon which the League is based, and is lawful. Persons who fail to live up to this standard of conduct are guilty of conduct detrimental and subject to discipline, even where the conduct itself does not result in conviction of a crime. Discipline may be imposed in any of the following circumstances: 

    Criminal offenses including, but not limited to, those involving:

     

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    Re: Brandon Spikes sex tape

    Here's the league's personal conduct policy:
    http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/21598/nfl-personal-conduct-policy

    From my (non-expert) reading, getting head while on chat roulette isn't a covered offense.  The policy is explicit about being held to a higher standard than conviction of a crime, but rather conduct that indicates criminal intent.  That's why Big Ben came under the policy--there wasn't enough evidence of sexual assult to convict beyond a reasonable doubt, but there was still plenty of convincingly sordid evidence. 

    The polciy covers the following:

    "Criminal offenses including, but not limited to, those involving:

     

    • The use or threat of violence; domestic violence and other forms of partner abuse; theft and other property crimes; sex offenses; obstruction or resisting arrest; disorderly conduct; fraud; racketeering; and money laundering;
    • Criminal offenses relating to steroids and prohibited substances, or substances of abuse;
    • Violent or threatening behavior among employees, whether in or outside the workplace;
    • Possession of a gun or other weapon in any workplace setting, including but not limited to stadiums, team facilities, training camp, locker rooms, team planes, buses, parking lots, etc., or unlawful possession of a weapon outside of the workplace;
    • Conduct that imposes inherent danger to the safety and well being of another person; and
    • Conduct that undermines or puts at risk the integrity and reputation of the NFL, NFL clubs, or NFL players.
    Nowhere does the policy come close to covering the kind of private conversation the parties where having--remember, an anonymous user taped the webcast, which in many states would be illegal.  If I talk on the phone, or skype, that's not public in the legal sense of being outside on property that is part of the res publica.


    PS what a bunch of homophobes you guys are. 

     
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    [QUOTE]http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/21598/nfl-personal-conduct-policy ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by vertigho[/QUOTE]

    Was there a point you're trying to make in posting this?   
     
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    Question? What happend to Doc's personal recommendation? I hope that is not his daughter in the pic.... And if it is not where is she? She is his significant other right???

    When Doc called BB what did he say about Spikes?

    "The sex tape is a sham my daughter told me thjat not his package...."

    He does not need to be suspended feeling stupid should be enough...

     
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    Re: Brandon Spikes sex tape

    From Mike Reiss at ESPNBoston.com:

     

    The NFL is investigating a compromising video of New England Patriots rookie linebacker Brandon Spikes with a woman that has been posted on the Internet.


    "We are looking into it," league spokesman Greg Aiello said Tuesday night via e-mail.


    The NFL's personal conduct policy states that all persons associated with the league are required to avoid "conduct detrimental to the integrity of and public confidence in the National Football League."


    Once rookies are selected in the NFL draft, they are subject to the policy. Spikes, who turns 23 on Friday, was selected by the Patriots in the second round of the draft in April.


    The Patriots did not comment on the video.


    Spikes' agent, Terry Watson, described it as an "embarrassing situation."


    "It was something that occurred before he became an NFL draftee and a New England Patriot. I think for anyone it would be an embarrassing situation," Watson said. "Brandon has shown to many people the kind of person he is before and after being drafted in the second round. He's hoping to put this behind him and looks forward to having a great football season."


    Spikes has started all three preseason games for the Patriots. He has been credited by the team's coaches with 18 tackles, the third highest total on the club.

     
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    Any of you looking this video up have got problems. Last thing I want to see is one of our LB's johnson, unless it was Teddy's, LOL, JK.
    The thing that bothers me is the media is so stupid to cover this. It is not a story. If this is a video that some chick took and then posted on the web to get money, nobody should make this news. The guy is a football player. I don't care about who he bangs or how big his package. Cannot believe this is a story.
     
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    I didnt watch the tape , but I saw him getting phucked in coverage the other night. The kids a great player though , he'll learn. Back to the sex tape ... who cares. Just because Goodell has sex w/ his clothes on doesnt mean the rest of us cant get a lil' kinky ... TMI , ok sorry.
     
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    Re: Brandon Spikes sex tape

    That's Brandon's business. As long as he's not using some hokie stage name like Muff Daddy or Woody Spikes he shouldn't be punished.


    don't forget Ron Mexico
     

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