Brandon Tate

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    [QUOTE]Brandon looked superb in the stadium practice.  Darius Butler looks like a starter at CB.  The new TEs are going to make our Offense move the chains.  They will be ready to rock.
    Posted by Clay73[/QUOTE]For those who thought Taylor Price was going to start ahead of Tate. Guess what, Tate will be a playmaker and big time weapon opposite Moss. This kid is great with his hands on the ball after the Catch. Hopefully Price can add some depth. Let someone else return Kicks, I don't want to take a chance with Tate getting Injured.This Passing attack will be feared throughout the League. I have been waiting for Tate since he got drafted.Much more Talented than his former Teamate Hakeem Nicks now with the Giants
     
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    I agree with Clay, the TE's looked great, all three of the them especially Hernandez but I was surprised that even crumpler can move pretty quick. Hernandez has a nasty spin move and looks like he can break tackles. Gronk took a hard hit for a practice in the endzone and looks like a really tough guy to tackle. One thing that frustrated the hell out of me was how Ben Watson looked so big and strong but would never break tackles by CB's 40 lbs lighter. Gronk will knock those guys out.

    Tate made a really good diving catch in the endzone that would have been out of bounds in a real game but it was still probably one of the more exciting plays of the night.

    Price had a tough night catching the ball though.

    One thing that I noticed is it seems already seems as though Brady has developed a better rapport with all the newer guys than he ever did with chad jackson or galloway.

    I didn't notice Cunningham at all for anything either good or bad.
     
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    No doubt that tate can stretch the field and with his size,speed and moves is a threat every time he touches the ball.Please don't underestimate Price he been a standout in practices as well(at least the four i've seen.He runs terrific routes,has very good speed,explosion of the line and he is one tough kid.Barring injury,these two should provide the Pats with with young wide outs who each provides a definite challenge to opposing teams.Mccourty,I believe,has the makings of a true shut-down corner and I'd watch Cunningham real close as he has shown the physical skills and work ethic(he has terrific motor and you can almost feel he desire to learn and excel)the make the position change from D.E. to OLB.Is he there yet,absolutely not,but you can see that he is improving practice to practice and I feel he will help this year and ultimately be outstanding.G.Warren probably won't give you a whole lot of pass rush pressure at RDE but I'll bet he will be very good against the run(maybe freeing up the aforementioned Cunningham and the safeties to dog more).
     
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    Tate had a round one grade going into his senior year and he scored 7 touch downs before blowing up his knee...

    if he did not smoke mary j before the combine he still would have been a bubble first round pick.

    this kid is a stud

    I am not sure the patriots can afford Moss next year so lets get use to the following specialists

    Tate
    Welker
    Edleman
    Price
    Gronk
    Hernandez
    Brady

    We need a RB, Morris, Taylor, Faulk, Maroney are all in there last year. Faulks new deal was only one year.

    next years draft

    1A) OLB
    1B) RB
    2A) OLB
    2B) RB
    3) DE
    4 to 7) Depth
     
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    [QUOTE]Nice. How did Cunningham look on the edge? I heard he looked ok setting the edge/containing and look natural peeling back into coverage. Yeah, sounds like the WRs and TEs are realy progressing. These preseason games cannot come soon enough. I want to see how they look when pressed at the line, etc.  That will show us if these guys can shake loose on the patterns.
    Posted by russgriswold[/QUOTE]

    Cunningham looked pretty good.  He is a big strong kid.  Bigger than I expected and has a quick 1st step.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Brandon Tate : For those who thought Taylor Price was going to start ahead of Tate. Guess what, Tate will be a playmaker and big time weapon opposite Moss. This kid is great with his hands on the ball after the Catch. Hopefully Price can add some depth. Let someone else return Kicks, I don't want to take a chance with Tate getting Injured.This Passing attack will be feared throughout the League. I have been waiting for Tate since he got drafted.Much more Talented than his former Teamate Hakeem Nicks now with the Giants
    Posted by patriots44[/QUOTE]

    Brandon is the entire package.  This kid will be a play maker.  He has it all and so young also.  He could be a star.
     
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    [QUOTE]Brandon looked superb in the stadium practice.  Darius Butler looks like a starter at CB.  The new TEs are going to make our Offense move the chains.  They will be ready to rock.
    Posted by Clay73[/QUOTE]
     
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    [QUOTE]Thanks. I still feel the Gerard Warren run stuffing angle with some decent length and experience can help at DE. And if somehow Cunningham can progress through preseason, then this area not only may not be bad or as poor as last year, but it will be better as the season goes. I read on another board that Cunningham looks good setting the edge. This is good news.  Obviously, it's not full blown game action, but still it's encouraging. As for Price, this same person who posted a camp review said Hernandez and Price run the best routes, with Price looking very good in this area. Surprised to read that because I saw that as a weakness out of college. It could have been his bad QB at Ohio, though.
    Posted by russgriswold[/QUOTE]

    Gerard Warren did impress me.  He looked in better shape than the last time I saw him and he is still as strong as an ox.  He pushed some O-Lineman around and still is a force.

    Price did not impress me nearly as much as Tate did.  Tate will cause problems for Defenses.  Our entire Offense will cause problems for other teams.
     
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    Can we move one disgruntle player for another and really seal the deal on this era with moss in the fold that is...

    For example;

    Mankins for Glen Coffee and another 2nd from the 49ers???

    I think Coffee is just as good as Shon Green and he is better than baloney.

    Fred Taylor and Sammy Morris have to get cut right??? Just becasue they are veterans that does not meen they can have the worst camp of there life and make the team???

     
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS6L070REw0


    He's like what would happen if Deion Branch, Wes Welker and Devin Hester go together and made a baby. He still has growing up to do, but he'll make some noise along the way. 
     
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    [QUOTE]Sounds liek mathcup nightmares for opposing teams, but like I always say, there must be a commitment to spreading the ball..  As happy as I am for Welker, I was actually hoping he would miss the 1st weeks, so atleast Brady is forced to go back to finding other options...I mean its nice the guy has 346 catches in 3 years, but it hasnt gotten us a ring, (not his fault) and if we want him to finish out his contract, I think catching 70 to 80 balls is much better, and getting other guys the ball....I hate when Brady pats the ball looking for one guy...just so Bledsoe-esque..   If Brady can get back to his 2001 spreading the ball nature, with the upgrades now on offense...I mean we won it all with J.Wiggins, T.Brown, D.Patten, A.Smith, theres no excuse not to be able to win with these guys, unless we s uck on defense...I'd like to see 2 or 3 TE formation, 5 wide, all of it...just dont run the same ish all day...
    Posted by patsfan76[/QUOTE]

    Couldn't agree more, I love Welker but I worry that he will hurt the development of some of these guys. I love Brady too, but since Welker has been here he has developed some tunnel vision and needs to get back to spreading it around more.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Brandon Tate : Couldn't agree more, I love Welker but I worry that he will hurt the development of some of these guys. I love Brady too, but since Welker has been here he has developed some tunnel vision and needs to get back to spreading it around more.
    Posted by mthurl[/QUOTE]

    I feel the same way, but reports from camp say that Brandon Tate has been Brady's go to WR and Moss and Brady are linking up with minimal effort. It looks like Brady trusts Tate. The problem last year was that Brady and Galloway couldn't get it together and Brady just couldn't trust the other guys. 

    I think trust plays a major role when it comes to Tom Brady finding his receivers. When Brady had Givens, Branch, Patten and Brown on the team he trusted each and every one of them that's why he had no problem spreading the ball around. Let's hope he learns to trust Gronk and Hernandez before Welker is cleared for 100% participation because when Welker comes back he'll get the ball. 
     
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    [QUOTE] Let's hope he learns to trust Gronk and Hernandez before Welker is cleared for 100% participation because when Welker comes back he'll get the ball. 
    Posted by 49Patriots[/QUOTE]

    You got it backwards.  Gronk, Hernandez and everyone else have to earn Tom Brady's trust.
     
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    We need a RB, Morris, Taylor, Faulk, Maroney are all in there last year. Faulks new deal was only one year.
    next years draft:
    1A) OLB
    1B) RB
    2A) OLB
    2B) RB
    3) DE
    4 to 7) Depth

              ~tagandtrade

    Well fine man, I was keepin' it a surprise that I already met with Bill (me & coach are on a first name basis), And he asked (pssh, more like "begged")- Me to turn in New England's 2011 Draft Card, at this, such an early stage...but hey-WHO can say "No" to Coach?  So alright, seein' as how there's some heavily addicted NFL Draft guys like myself, on this BDC page: I will NOW show you ALL (sworn to secrecy I hope)-PRECISELY who and at what positions NE will undoubtedly draft, come 2011...

    1st Rd NE's #1 Pick acquired from Oakland:
    New England selects Nebraska's Jared Crick- Crick's a 6'6 285 lb bast who runs a 4.88 40.  Now some naysayers might look at Crick's nominal 12.5 TFLs and 9.5 Sacks last year, and thus conclude that Crick's numbers should really be higher, As Crick had N. Suh anchoring the far side of the line...And this is wrong.  Jared Crick played as a Strong-side DT, and/or DE-and it was thus Crick who was taking on elite Left Offensive Tackles AND Offensive Guards.  In most plays that I've watched him, Crick himself was double-teamed too (and when he wasn't, he made the Offense pay dearly).  In all, his Crick fella is simply on another level: I've watched Cameron Heyward=Who plays completely SOFT, Allen Bailey=Horrific play-prescence instincts, Adrian Clayborn=SERIOUS and multiple off-field incidents, and finally Marcel Dareus is a Top 5 lock, NO doubt...
         People, Ya GOTTA see Jared Crick play, He is a BEAST, but he's a "heads up" beast.  He has multiple D-Line moves-When It's a pass, Crick is an animal in collapsing the pocket, YET IF and when he can't get to the QB, he' got his eyes fixed exactly on the QB, and as he adjusts into the throwing lane, He WILL block the pass; Running plays, IF Crick's not simply stuffin the RB up the middle, and it's a sweep-run, Crick's locked right onto the runner, and He shadows his O-Lineman down the length of the LOS, right until the RB's runnin outta room, and has to make the turn upfield=Crick's there.  Sniffs out draws, screens=You CANNOT get this ever really, with the 3-4 DE size stipulation required to be a 2-gapping yet threatening 3-4 DE...  Oh btw, Crick's humble as he!! too.

    1st Rd NE's #2 Pick (NE's own):
    New England Selects (and this was a tough one for me, because it's a bit of a reach)- Boston College's Mark Herzlich-  Look, I know that this is a "reach", AND there is NO telling IF Herzlich can even come back to his 2008 form after being out last year and treated for cancer in his leg...BUT I'm takin a gamble at this juncture (but, who knows?).  Mark Herzlich is a psychopathic WARRIOR imo.  Like, I've stated previously, It is SO hard to find a Collegiate OLB, who has the size needed to play a 3-4 OLB position; Which is why Pro Teams take a leap and a prayer at Collegiate DEs, and pray to god that they didn't waste a high draft pick on a Bust of'a Pro OLB.
         Herzlich, At 6'4 240lbs, Already HAS the size needed (10 more lbs is nothing compared to the alternative of doin the College DE thing).  4.69 40...I recall reading in 2008, a Patriot Scouts take on Herzlich- It said something like that in 30 years of scouting, He had never once come across a MORE complete player in EVERY single aspect of his game-skills, Than what he saw in Herzlich.  This dude is pretty much a Machine: Leader, Passion, 1000% effort, Good vs. Run, Or Pass-Coverage, Or Pass-Rush.  Check out some of his 2008 accomplishments:  Mark Herzlich was named the ACC Defensive Player of the Year. He had 98 tackles, nine TFL, 2.5 sacks and seven passes broken up. Most impressively, he also had six interceptions, two of which were returned for touchdowns...that ahh, thats ridiculous.

    2nd Rd NE's #1 Pick through a 2011 Draft trade:
    New England selects Boston College's Offensive Tackle Anthony Costanzo.  Now Costanzo is currently ranked the #3-#4 OT in the2011 Draft, So this might require a minor trade up to be certain to procure him (he has a late 1st Rd-2nd Rd grade on him).  Look Vollmer's the real-deal, and I really thought about gettin a weapon for Brady, but opted to keep him healthy & still breathing instead.  Ya gotta look at this as OT Matt Light's last year AND WR Randy Moss's last year as well...so it's a tough call.  The seal on going with an OT, really was the fact that IMHO, The ONLY draftable player in terms of wide receiver, who even has a "chance" to be NE's and Brady's next go-to guy, Is (imo) Alabama's wideout Julio Jones, and even though wideouts have been sllipping down towards the bottom half of Rd 1, Imo-There's no way Jones will be there somewhere at the beginning of Rd 2...no way.
         So OT Anthony Costanzo-6'7 295lbs and EXTREMELY athletic.  Built ideally for NE's zone-run game, AND NE's pass-first Offense as of late (hopefully this too, NE's O-Line schemes, NOT being a norm among all O-Lines in the league, CAN help Costanzo fall into their NE's laps)...

    2nd Rd NE's #2 Pick (NE's own selection):
    New England selects Ohio State's Runningback, Brandon Saine...  Now ya'all KNOW I've been touting and pretty much begging that NE gets a decent-sized RB to compliment their smaller (in terms of bulk) and more agile pass-protection-first Offensive Line...  It just makes SENSE, when your O-Line isn't built to literally "engulf" D-Lineman better with bigger O-line guys, TO ACQUIRE a decent sized RB (How obvious does it have to be: Bigger RBs work BETTER with NE's Offensive schematics-Antwain Smith, Corey Dillon, Sammy Morris-circa 2007-8, Fred Taylor-early 2009)...Smaller RBs, unless they are THE BEST in the game, simply get crushed by being manhandled more.  Now take this WITH Brady's elite pocket prescence of knowing when to "Step-Up" (forward) in the passing pocket, AND If NE does NOT have just the right sized RB that those 1 gapping, pocket-collapsing Oppossing DTs NEED to worry about as some kind of threat on play-action=Brady's gonna get killed one day.
         6'1 220lbs (plays bigger than his listed size).  Big, but still runs a 4.40 40...Look for Saine to explode this year...He's VERY much in the form of Ohio State's Chris "Beanie" Wells-Size AND Speed.

    ~So that's IT ALL=2011 NFL Draft is signed and delivered...  
     
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    [QUOTE]Sounds liek mathcup nightmares for opposing teams, but like I always say, there must be a commitment to spreading the ball..  As happy as I am for Welker, I was actually hoping he would miss the 1st weeks, so atleast Brady is forced to go back to finding other options...I mean its nice the guy has 346 catches in 3 years, but it hasnt gotten us a ring, (not his fault) and if we want him to finish out his contract, I think catching 70 to 80 balls is much better, and getting other guys the ball....I hate when Brady pats the ball looking for one guy...just so Bledsoe-esque..   If Brady can get back to his 2001 spreading the ball nature, with the upgrades now on offense...I mean we won it all with J.Wiggins, T.Brown, D.Patten, A.Smith, theres no excuse not to be able to win with these guys, unless we s uck on defense...I'd like to see 2 or 3 TE formation, 5 wide, all of it...just dont run the same ish all day...
    Posted by patsfan76[/QUOTE]

    Add to all of the above with better (more creative, less predictable) play calling, power formations to help the short yardage type run situations, and a RB corp that can actually stay healthy the whole year......and the Pats have potential to be scary good on offense.

    Now, about the defense....................lol.
     
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    I think brady has more weapons this year with Tate and the TE's earning his trust. Add to the fact Welker is coming off injury, the Pats 'should' spread the ball around more.

    I do not see Welker having another 100 catch season with the new additions on this club.

    Hopefully with all these weapons O'Brien can scheme better than 2009!
     
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    [QUOTE]Brandon looked superb in the stadium practice.  Darius Butler looks like a starter at CB.  The new TEs are going to make our Offense move the chains.  They will be ready to rock.
    Posted by Clay73[/QUOTE]
    Nice. can't wait!
     
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    [QUOTE]Tate had a round one grade going into his senior year and he scored 7 touch downs before blowing up his knee... if he did not smoke mary j before the combine he still would have been a bubble first round pick. this kid is a stud I am not sure the patriots can afford Moss next year so lets get use to the following specialists Tate Welker Edleman Price Gronk Hernandez Brady We need a RB, Morris, Taylor, Faulk, Maroney are all in there last year. Faulks new deal was only one year. next years draft 1A) OLB 1B) RB 2A) OLB 2B) RB 3) DE 4 to 7) Depth
    Posted by tagandtrade[/QUOTE]

    The reliability and quality of the receivers will allow our running game to do just fine.  These TEs will improve our running game as well.  I love these three TEs and Crumpler is still a stud and he moves well and catches the ball well also.  This Offense will move the chains.  I am real excited to see them in the red zone.   We are back in the saddle again!
     
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    My only question is who returns the punts and kicks ? I really don't want Welker back there, so I might throw Tate or Price or Edelman or Faulk into the mix (if I'm BB) during pre-season to see who can handle the return duties.
     
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    Lazarus...how's the women thing going ? can we get a progress report on that ?
     
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    "Lazarus...how's the women thing going ? can we get a progress report on that?"
     
    Now that I think about it, Recall how I made a guesstimation about how there's roughly 3 single women in my state, And that I still found it odd how I didn't stumble across at least 1 of 'em at my cigar store I frequent?  Well...So I'm pullin' up in my fly Ford Taurus to a parking spot near the pllace, And what happens to walk in front a' my hot rod, Is like a 6'0 tall blonde bombshell... Meanwhile now, I check this dude out ahead of me, doin' double take after double take on the girl; But Ya know me though, I bust my routine out so tight Joe Cool has been knockin on my door for pointers...  I don't give her a second glance, as I roll up my sleeves to sport a lil' of my inkwork.  After this, I found it pretty strange indeed that this A-class honey didn't tackle me before I got into the stogie shop...weird.  Anyway inside the shop talking with the owner is that "double-take-on-the-blonde" Dude, and all I hear is "Jesus God! ya woulda LOVED 'er- This guy here (pointing to me just walkin in)- Knows what I'm talkin' about." 

    So I go, "'Course I know what'ur sayin, But Man- Dat chick KNOWS your lookin', And Ya can't be doin so many looks; Thinka her like a cop, ya know "One-Time"- Ya look once and pay it no mind after, lookin' twice and ya startin ta get suspicious."  They both Laugh.  I continue, "C'mon dese ladies SMELL desperation, And ya can't hide it, ya can't fake it, and ya can't pretend otherwise, BUT when you finally say, 'Alright, Scr#w ALL women, WhoTH needs 'em,' They come at'cha like a lion pride hungerin for a fresh kill and nothing less.  I believe the overall mindset is, 'That Guy DOESN'T need ME!?! Wellll then, I'm just gonna have ta strangle every bit of life outta him!"

    So one'a the guys goes- "So you KNOW this man, And you acted the part... So then, Why ISN'T she hangin off your arm as we speak right now?!"  

    My answer to him was, "Shoot man, I didn't catch 1 SINGLE glimpse of her feasting her eyes on me as I stepped-up outta my hot whip... I mean, You guys can see my car from here: Yup, right there, The one with the particle board for a sunroof, held on by Gorilla Tape?  Seriously, I wouldn't trade that lady bait, for a new Lamborgini.  So fellas we're left with the 1 single and ONLY thing which we even CAN conclude, right?"

    "What's that....?"

    "Lesbi#n."  


    ~Dear god, Do I MISS college:

    Girl at Frat Party: "Hey, YOU'RE cute."
    Laz:  "You too."
    Girl at Frat Party: "I think you're in my computer class, right."
    Laz: "Definately, I mean If you say so, I am." 
    Girl at Frat Party: "You're cute."
    Laz: "Are youuuu drunk."
    Girl at Frat Party: "Well YOU Are TOO!"
    Laz: "You KNOW it!  It'd be sorta strange if I wasn't...It's still Friday, right?  Either way-Hey, wanna come back to my dorm room-I got more beer, and this party's sorta dyin'...?" 
    Girl at Frat Party: "Welll, I really shouldn't."
    Laz: "Come onnnn...".
    Girl at Frat Party: "Well alright."
     
     
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    thanks Laz, I knew we could count on you for an interesting update. both football and specifically non f/b related. Gets me through the day.

    Regarding the Oakland 1st rd pick, I hope this pick is not too high, way too much $$$ these days, of course I'm sure BB will trade down a bit as typical.  Somewhere between 1st round 9-13 would be good.   
     

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