Browns @ Patriots REPORT CARD

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    One wonders.  What malaise infects the offense in the first half lately?  Is it some sort of mentality they can turn it on when needed or what or is the opposing team more amped up at the start of the game than the Pats?

    Starting with the Carolina game, followed by Denver, Houston then Cleveland, all abysmal starts only to fire it up in the second half.  Could we say the team was fortunate to be playing defenses, outside of Cleveland, that were not exactly strong to allow for such comebacks?  The next game against Miami, the Pats also started slow when they played them in Foxboro, scoring only 3 points in the first half.  After Miami, the Ravens are not the sort of team that would crumble in the second half.  Another slow start, 5 games in a row, is a disease! What's the cure?



    Its all playcalling IMO. They likely script up the 1st 10 and run them unless something crazy happens. To me they are starting out trying to fool the D to get a big play. Lots of playactions on 1st play of the game this year. Havent seen this many since Bledsoe to Glenn days. The thing is the line needs to get into rythm and backs need to run before they do it . ON most playactions the D line is getting upfield and someone usually misses a block forcing a fast throw. Why not just come out and run and 1st and 2nd, creating a 3rd and 5 or better and let brady start with an easy throw to Danny on 1st down? Let the backs run before you get cute and Please , if Blount  if ripping him off, Keep Feeding him. I dont need to see RIdley just because although he had a nice run late but yea, let brady settle in. Starting the game 3 and out and starting with a 1st down makes a BIG difference and how the offense starts out and moving forward.

     
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    The offense turned it over 3 times. Any offense that turns it over 3 times in a game is an almost sure lock to lose.

    I don't care what happens at the end of a game with tired humans. I care what happens earlier in the game over and over and over with our putrid 45 second drives or turnovers helping the opponent, who plays loose and carefree, gaing confidence as the game goes.

    That's what I care about over 60 minutes of action.

    Keep it up, morons. We lost 2 SBs with why we almost lost to the Bruins. 8 carries total for a lead back in a 3-0 or 6-0 game is a joke.

     



    Rusty, REGARDLESS of how slow a start the team may have or the number of turnovers, and I agree TOs play a big part in the outcome of the game, if the team overcomes all of this to be IN THE LEAD late in the game and the D has to hold the fort, if the D doesn't, the blame can't be put on the offense as the sole reason for losses your points seem to make. 

    You are just so steadfast in your position the SBs were lost because of the lack of offense, primarily, and simply ignore the offense got the team into the lead late in both games only to see the D give up 83 and 88 yard winning drives to the Giants leaving the offense with less than a minute in each game.

    You really need to balance your positions and quit placing all blame on Brady and the O.

     
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    You really need to balance your positions and quit placing all blame on Brady and the O.



    LMAO....good luck with that

     
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    But I wanted to win 100-0




    You've got a lot of Patsfansince1966 in you.

     
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    Tex, I thought this was a perfect rundown of how Sunday went. Well done. Doesn't look good for this year, but still cannot count us out.

     
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    Tex, I thought this was a perfect rundown of how Sunday went. Well done. Doesn't look good for this year, but still cannot count us out.




    We aren't done by any means.

     
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    Tex, I thought this was a perfect rundown of how Sunday went. Well done. Doesn't look good for this year, but still cannot count us out.




    We aren't done by any means.



    exactly, we have Tom and BB. hopefully he can turn our D back around.

     
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    His report cards never make sense. The Offense and QB were god awful for 3 qtrs while the D was not.

    There are 4 qtrs of football. The D outplayed the offene in this game for more of the game. End of story.  They also got screwed royally with 5 horrendous and incorrect calls. It stated in the 1st qtr on the Hightower strip of Little.

    Here is my report card:

    Offense: D

    Defense: B

    STs: A

    Refs: F

    There is the accurate grading scale.

    To expect a D to shutout any offense in this league for 4 qtrs while our offense fidgets with their respective nuts all game is ridiculous.

    Complementary football. It's how you win consistently.  RIght now, our offense sucks in first halves. Meanwhile, our D has been generally good, minus last week in Houston.

    Brady as awful for 3 qtrs and had a 31.7 QB rating in the first half.

    Go back and look at the offense in the last 5-6 games in first halves, even with Gronk, and compare it to the second half.

    IMO, this started happening with Gronk's return, which almost smells like the gameplans were starting to be around Gronk, which is a binky problem, which is no different than our problems in previous playoffs where teams hone in on where Brady wants to go and they rush 4 and double who they think Brady wants to focus on.

     




    Got to disagree with you this time Russ.  The Defense was Absolutely Horrible for most of the game.  During the first half they couldn't stop the run and during the second half they couldn't stop the pass.  Overall, on third and long the Defense stunk!  Third and 10, third and 12, third and whatever?  No problem.  Pass rush?  Nope?  The offense Stunk for 3 Quarters and that includes Brady.  Coaching was suspect as well.  Blount runs through the line like butter so they bring in Ridley? 

     

    And this criticism is coming from a so-called Homer.  But after saying all of the above, this team is one of the strangest teams I've seen in recent years.  They can stink yet still win.  Even with all of the terrible injuries on this team, I still remain cautiously optimistic   However, it remains to be seen if they can continue to win the way they've been playing.    So let's see what happens one game at a time beginning with Miami.



    Couldn't stop the run? Were you drunk by chance? They had multiple stone jobs in short yardage and one was overturned with an incorrect spot with no evidence for it to be overturned.

    Here are Cleveland's RBs:

    McGehee 14 carries, 33 yards.

    Ogbonnaya 4 carries, 8 yards.

    Whittaker 4 carries, 6 yards.

    Did you watch the entire game?

     



    No I wasn't drunk and you don't have to be a wise A  --   Russ.  In the first half Cleveland was able to run the ball.  Then they didn't have to run  because they could pass at will.  The Defense Stunk for most of the game.  But I guess you are right as usual and the other 495,000 people are wrong.   

     
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    Tex, I thought this was a perfect rundown of how Sunday went. Well done. Doesn't look good for this year, but still cannot count us out.



          I don't know if the 2013 depleted Pats have what it takes to make it to the SB. The next two road games, @ Miami and @ Baltimore, will speak volumes.  

     

     
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    The offense turned it over 3 times. Any offense that turns it over 3 times in a game is an almost sure lock to lose.

    I don't care what happens at the end of a game with tired humans. I care what happens earlier in the game over and over and over with our putrid 45 second drives or turnovers helping the opponent, who plays loose and carefree, gaing confidence as the game goes.

    That's what I care about over 60 minutes of action.

    Keep it up, morons. We lost 2 SBs with why we almost lost to the Bruins. 8 carries total for a lead back in a 3-0 or 6-0 game is a joke.

     



    Oh, 60 minutes of action... you mean like in the 2001 SB when the Pats scored 14 points in the second qtr and 6 in the rest of the game?  

     
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    It may be impossible to grade this team except for ST which is always wow

    Byput the dr j and mr h of both O and D

    based on points the D gets an A in the first half 6 pts the O a D----why not an F, they didnt do so bad ithat they absolutely screwed the D

    based on points In the second Half The D-gets a D- 20 pts and the O gets an A+pts 27pts

    So the D gets a c+ and the O gets a c+ 27-26 are middling point performanc

    If the O didn't get both the last 2 tds they would get an F-

    If the D had allowed the winning fg they would get an F

    You have to go with what actually happened and what was actually called

     results matter you have to take into account a win or a loss

    TexPat I agree with some that you were a little hard  on the D and too  good on the O 

    btw vereen has more than taken over for Hern.

     

     
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    Re: Browns @ Patriots REPORT CARD

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    In response to DeadAhead's comment:

    The offense turned it over 3 times. Any offense that turns it over 3 times in a game is an almost sure lock to lose.

    I don't care what happens at the end of a game with tired humans. I care what happens earlier in the game over and over and over with our putrid 45 second drives or turnovers helping the opponent, who plays loose and carefree, gaing confidence as the game goes.

    That's what I care about over 60 minutes of action.

    Keep it up, morons. We lost 2 SBs with why we almost lost to the Bruins. 8 carries total for a lead back in a 3-0 or 6-0 game is a joke.

     



    Rusty, REGARDLESS of how slow a start the team may have or the number of turnovers, and I agree TOs play a big part in the outcome of the game, if the team overcomes all of this to be IN THE LEAD late in the game and the D has to hold the fort, if the D doesn't, the blame can't be put on the offense as the sole reason for losses your points seem to make. 

    You are just so steadfast in your position the SBs were lost because of the lack of offense, primarily, and simply ignore the offense got the team into the lead late in both games only to see the D give up 83 and 88 yard winning drives to the Giants leaving the offense with less than a minute in each game.

    You really need to balance your positions and quit placing all blame on Brady and the O.



    ^^^^this. This is what rusty doesn't understand. 

    and after many years of banging my head against a wall, I am convinced russ will never understand. 

     
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    It may be impossible to grade this team except for ST which is always wow

    Byput the dr j and mr h of both O and D

    based on points the D gets an A in the first half 6 pts the O a D----why not an F, they didnt do so bad ithat they absolutely screwed the D

    based on points In the second Half The D-gets a D- 20 pts and the O gets an A+pts 27pts

    So the D gets a c+ and the O gets a c+ 27-26 are middling point performanc

    If the O didn't get both the last 2 tds they would get an F-

    If the D had allowed the winning fg they would get an F

    You have to go with what actually happened and what was actually called

     results matter you have to take into account a win or a loss

    TexPat I agree with some that you were a little hard  on the D and too  good on the O 

    btw vereen has more than taken over for Hern.

     



    That is exactly my point. They should get equal grades given both were invisible for half s and played well in other halfs. I am with you, give them both C's or C+, but grade them the same. 

    Even ith this logical argument, Russ will still tell us how the d outplayed the o and was the reason we won.

     
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    I am a believer that in the nfl anything can happen. I enjoy reading the report cards and the arguments based on the grades. In my mind Brady gets an A, the final two minutes over rule the rest of the game. Yes he had issues all game but please name me other Qbs you would want in the game at the end. The defense again did just enough to win and to me  that is all that matters. This team has provided me more enjoyment this year and are continuing to surprise me. Hopefully Dobson and thompkins get back soon and we continue on a magical season. Thanks to all who contribute regularly.

     
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    Tex, I thought this was a perfect rundown of how Sunday went. Well done. Doesn't look good for this year, but still cannot count us out.



          I don't know if the 2013 depleted Pats have what it takes to make it to the SB. The next two road games, @ Miami and @ Baltimore, will speak volumes.  

     



    Yeah, I'll be paying attention to how well we limit Daniel Thomas and Miller in the run game with Siliga in at DT, if Talib can hang with Mike Wallace, if Charles Clay(talented kid) will abuse our LB's like Cameron did, and if the offense can somehow play better then they have, even though they lost a top 3 red zone threat.

    Baltimore will show us if we are capable of winning a post season game imo. Can we play well enough in a hostile playoff atmosphere where they will be amped up to kick our tails? 

     
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    On the slow start,for the offense the last several weeks....maybe bb needs to change his philosophy and take the ball if we win the coin toss. Get them out there, and get them running a hurry up. 

     
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    "But I wanted to win 100-0"

    You do realize the concept of a report card feature right?

    posting a baby picture underneath a thoughtful review is beyond ridiculous. We could easily have lost that game.

    You don't just get As for winning. Some of us want to see beyond a few corners and imagine how we stack up against the best teams in the league, that ok?

    Pat, thanks for another solid piece of work. I thought Brady got a bit lucky on those PI calls but he definitely did bounce back. 

    However, these slow first halfs are troubling and that has to get nipped in the bud somehow.

     
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    " Russ will still tell us how the d outplayed the o and was the reason we won."

    The D made Cambell look like Johnnny U. Granted given the injuries they played pretty well but we won because of offense and special teams execution. The D gave up as much to Cleveland as they have gotten all year in many categories.

     
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