Caldwell Merely a Figurehead in Indy?

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    The trials and tribulations of a once great team that is aging and the management of that team, seemingly, refusing to plan for it properly.  Classic example, not having a decent BU to Manning.  Classic example of good planning, the Pats when Brady went down for the entire 2008 season, the team didn't fold like the Colts seemingly are and the Pats still went 11 - 5.
     
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    In Response to Re: Caldwell Merely a Figurehead in Indy? : Hey, I am willing to admit that the colts may have made a mistake with their team structure, because I've never heard the refrain "offense wins championships", have you?  Brady was simply asked to manage games. 
    Posted by UD6

    So, which is it, the Colts defense that has cost the Colts from winning the SB, your "idiot kicker," or both?  Is your crying going to expand on your Colts defense now?  Just tell me when the tear marks from your face goes away, so we know you are no longer a cry baby.
     
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    In Response to Re: Caldwell Merely a Figurehead in Indy? : Hey, I am willing to admit that the colts may have made a mistake with their team structure, because I've never heard the refrain "offense wins championships", have you?  Brady was simply asked to manage games. 
    Posted by UD6


    I'm arguing that Manning was putting up flashier numbers than Brady during the SB years because of his superior offensive personnel.  The most recent example of a real "game manager" to win a SB was Dilfer with the Ravens.  His season stats were 1502 yds 12 tds and 11 picks.  Brady has never performed anywhere close to that level.  I'm not expecting you to say that Brady is better than Peyton since you are a colts fan, but I think Brady deserves a little more respect than title of "game manager" and all of its implications.
     
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    Well gln - the kicker did cause us not to move on or at least continue to compete in the 00 season and the 05 season.  Oh and thanks for the heartfelt finish to your post. 
    Posted by UD6


    Ya, blame the kicker.  It had nothing to do with the fact that the General, (The bestest QB eva) couldn't put it in the end zone.

    And please don't mention Brady and Vinatari and The Pats wins because, obviously, TB did enough to get the win and Pay a ton didn't.
    Was it the kickers fault in 09 too?  How about last year?  HelL, the one year you did win, he svcked.

    Most here will admit it when it's TBs fault.
    Those faults, however, are much less frequent than P's.
     
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    Hey Robbie...tell us all about how Crag Face No Neck managed that Nut-Sack-In-The-Woman's-Face situation!  really a great manager . that guy...oh yeah, he's always been expected to win for the team...great job for Tenn...you are a slimedog. LMAO!!!!!
     
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    In Response to Re: Caldwell Merely a Figurehead in Indy? : AGC - I'll admit it feels like there are big problems at this time both with the FO and the coaching and the personnel.  And it appears that manning may have been the band-aid that hid all the wounds.  At the very least its valid to speculate.  That said, I really think we had some poor decision making early this season with the Collins pick up.  I've been on here saying I understand the thinking behind the move, and I do.  They obviously didn't have confidence in Painter.  They obviously were wrong about that, because Painter has been serviceable.  I guess if you want to give the pats props for guessing right about Cassel, have at it, but as Babe has pointed out, the schedule was easy, and as I have said, the d was still dominant (their last year).
    Posted by UD6


    You with the dominant D kick

    Pats total D was 10th in the league in 2008 and 8th in scoring D (Indy was 7th in scoring D that year)

    Are you telling me that 10/8 in the league is domination - does that mean that Indy also had a dominant D at that time? If so, dominant D + Gomer, the master of the universe, should have equaled a SB that year?
     
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    numbers - I am not trashing brady.  He was the perfect game manager during that run, and I think he broke out in his last SB win.  He's no longer a game manager, like Manning always has, Brady is now expected to win for the team.  We've seen what that has wrought the last 2 years.  one and done.  I am the first to say teams need more than just a great QB.  Joe Montana is given high praise, but I think he had some pretty great weapons, and if I recall his D was fairly stout. 
    Posted by UD6


    Dude - you have some hutzpah to compare Peyton Manning to Joe Montana - indisputably one of the top 3 QB's ever to play - there is no comparison there UD  - I know your adulation of Peyton Manning knows no bounds but let's get real
     
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    In Response to Re: Caldwell Merely a Figurehead in Indy? : TP's new nickname - scratched LP.  He's a broken record. 
    Posted by UD6


    YOU calling someone else a "Broken Record" really?  Here we go hypocrite!  Brady "a game manager," my "idiot kicker," and "the Pats had a superior defense."
    Have you ever said anything different?  You only use these 3 excuses why the Pats won more than the Colts.  Have you ever said that a late int from Peyton cost the Colts?  Because we all know that the pick 6 against the Saints in the SB did nothing.
     
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    What happened to this thread?  Wasn't it suppose to be about Caldwell?
     
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    What happened to this thread?  Wasn't it suppose to be about Caldwell?
    Posted by garytx


    It was, but much like during a game, he has disappeared.
    Couple that with the fact that UD is still trying to convince the world that the earth is flat.
     
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    What happened to this thread?  Wasn't it suppose to be about Caldwell?
    Posted by garytx


    Ultimately, there are only two threads on the board:

    Peyton Manning v. Tom Brady, generally brought to you by TexasPat and the inimitable underdogg(gggg)

    and . . .

    Bill O'Brien is the genesis of all evil, sponsored exclusively by Russ Griswald.

    No matter how they start out, most every thread on this board turns into one of these two.

     
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    numbers - I am not trashing brady.  He was the perfect game manager during that run, and I think he broke out in his last SB win.  He's no longer a game manager, like Manning always has, Brady is now expected to win for the team.  We've seen what that has wrought the last 2 years.  one and done.  I am the first to say teams need more than just a great QB.  Joe Montana is given high praise, but I think he had some pretty great weapons, and if I recall his D was fairly stout. 
    Posted by UD6


    Of course what you fail to mention even though you know it is even though Brady took the 7th(2001), 1st(2003), and 2nd(2004) ranked defense to the SB and won... Manning took the 7th (2008), 1st (2007), and 2nd (2005) defenses to one and done. So if Brady is a game manager than Manning is less than that. Even Dilfer and Sanchez got further than one playoff game with the top ranked defense. The greatest of all time has a fist full of rings, not excuses.
     
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