Caldwell Merely a Figurehead in Indy?

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    numbers - I am not trashing brady.  He was the perfect game manager during that run, and I think he broke out in his last SB win.  He's no longer a game manager, like Manning always has, Brady is now expected to win for the team.  We've seen what that has wrought the last 2 years.  one and done.  I am the first to say teams need more than just a great QB.  Joe Montana is given high praise, but I think he had some pretty great weapons, and if I recall his D was fairly stout. 
    Posted by UD6


    Of course what you fail to mention even though you know it is even though Brady took the 7th(2001), 1st(2003), and 2nd(2004) ranked defense to the SB and won... Manning took the 7th (2008), 1st (2007), and 2nd (2005) defenses to one and done. So if Brady is a game manager than Manning is less than that. Even Dilfer and Sanchez got further than one playoff game with the top ranked defense. The greatest of all time has a fist full of rings, not excuses.
     
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    Shen - its a good point but not completely accurate. 

    I've been beaten over the head on this board that the regular season doesn't matter, its the postseason.  So when you look at the defensive rankings you are considering regular season stats. 

    The postseason is where the stats matter.  I recently did some analysis and put it on this board somewhere.  I think it showed that in postseason wins the pats gave up on average something like 16 points.  The colts over 19.  In losses the pats gave up like 25 while the colts gave up like 29.  I am pulling this info off the top of my head so I admit I may not be entirely accurate. 

    The point is that the pats d stood up in the postseason - twice the D delivered wins when Brady threw 3 ints in postseason games. 

    Brady's not a game manager anymore.

     
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    In Response to Re: Caldwell Merely a Figurehead in Indy? : gln - the truth isn't being a broken record.  The broken record thing from Scratched LP is he uses nearly the same exact comment when he's backed himself in a corner that he can claw his way out of.  Yes the late int by manning cost the colts.  Although its been speculated that Wayne ran a poor route, its never been confirmed so that pick is on Manning.  
    Posted by UD6


    So, If talk about the awful officiating in the AFCCG ALL THE TIME, I would think that you would call me out on it.  It was fact that the Colts got some PA calls that were not there, 1 paticular in the endzone, ball over thrown by 5 yards out of the endzone and ZERO contact (NFL admitted to it) and not getting calls, Caldwell in the endzone and the offensive PA by Troy Brown right before 1/2 time. Those ARE FACTS, but no one talks about those, yet you keep talking about the same crap all the time (FACT).
    Funny thing, someone gives you facts (repeating or not), you dismiss them. You give opinion (about your teams defense/kicker/how "great" your QB is) and try to twist them into facts, you get called out on them, and then you dismiss them all the time (what a shocker!).
    You have made some valid points on how good the Pats defense was in the early 2000's, but you will never admit to valid points about your teams defense during the same time.  That is why you are a hyproctite and I will keep calling you out on that until you will finally admit to it/them (valid points).
     
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    Colts are done for so many years to come. Mudd, Moore both are gone, running game and offensive line mess, defense a giant mess. Even if manning comes back they are 10 win team. They won't be able to beat good teams.
     
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    In Response to Re: Caldwell Merely a Figurehead in Indy? :      UD6, a/k/a "The Dog(gggg), has proven repeatedly to be a liar (he'll say anything to make his screw-ball points), a hypocrite, and a coward (in that he refuses to answer direct questions...or to take a firm position on anything).      This is why he has no credibility here...and why no one should take him seriously.  
    Posted by TexasPat3


    Hey Tex, no one can take those mantles from you my friend.  Its continuous posts like these as well as others that have you proving my points for me. 

    While I have obviously grown tired of the same refrain from you over and over and over again, it does provide ongoing upport for my positions. 

    keep it up. 
     
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    In Response to Re: Caldwell Merely a Figurehead in Indy? : So, If talk about the awful officiating in the AFCCG ALL THE TIME, I would think that you would call me out on it.  It was fact that the Colts got some PA calls that were not there, 1 paticular in the endzone, ball over thrown by 5 yards out of the endzone and ZERO contact (NFL admitted to it) and not getting calls, Caldwell in the endzone and the offensive PA by Troy Brown right before 1/2 time. Those ARE FACTS, but no one talks about those, yet you keep talking about the same crap all the time (FACT). Funny thing, someone gives you facts (repeating or not), you dismiss them. You give opinion (about your teams defense/kicker/how "great" your QB is) and try to twist them into facts, you get called out on them, and then you dismiss them all the time (what a shocker!). You have made some valid points on how good the Pats defense was in the early 2000's, but you will never admit to valid points about your teams defense during the same time.  That is why you are a hyproctite and I will keep calling you out on that until you will finally admit to it/them (valid points).
    Posted by gln826

    gln, I agree that the officiating was awful and that PI call never should have been made. Of course Pats fans aren't willing to admit that Gaffney TD at the back of the endzone was the same. Ultimately, they gave the pats more than they gave the colts because the Gaffney call was points on the board. The PI mistake still gave the pats a chance to keep the colts out of the endzone. 

    You remember the Gaffney TD, right? He caught the ball and landed with his INSIDE FOOT just inside the goal line. He would have had to cross his outside foot over his inside foot in order to be in bounds all while off balance. Never would have happened but he was hit and the refs gave the pats a make up call. 

    Everyone knows it.
     
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    TP - you could be right that Caldwell is a figurehead, but as you suggest that this disaster is about more than the loss of Manning, I remind you that less than 2 yrs ago, the colts went 14-0 and to a superbowl with much of the same team. 

    With so little different, a strong argument exists that Manning is the difference.  Don't believe me?  Ask Tedy Bruschi.

     
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    In Response to Re: Caldwell Merely a Figurehead in Indy? : What about the phantom PI call on Troy Brown that no one saw or Caldwell mauled in the corner of the end zone by Hayden? You can't put two hands on a WR and then block him from returning to the ball. Hayden initiated contact there, not Caldwell. That's textbook PI. Offset the Gaffney and Ellis Hobbs calls and you still got calls when you needed them.  Bagjob.
    Posted by RidingWithTheKing

    Come on Russ, you can't come up with nearly enough calls to justify an 18 point comeback and 35 points in less than 31 minutes.  Walk away.
     
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    LOL, someone figured it out:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/24/indianapolis-star-thinks-caldwell-is-a-goner/
     
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    Considering Troy Brown's PI phantom call before half was at worst a FG (3 points) and Caldell's non-intereference call with a 7 point inevtiablility with a spot at the 1 for 1st and goal, that's 10 points. So, yes, I can. That was easy. Walk away, Panties.
    Posted by RidingWithTheKing


    LMAO - This is exactly the mentality about which I am talking.  Some pats fans are blind to any mistakes the team makes or problems they create.  I just watched the replay. 

    Brown clearly chipped the linebacker off the line to create space for Watson who caught the pass.  Great play design and execution as long as it isn't called.  It was.  Typical pats play - take calculated risks and make the refs make the call.  In this case, unlike the 03 afccg, they did.   

    Funny thing is Garcon was just called for PI last night for similar chipping.   

    As for the Caldell non-call, I have no idea what you are talking about. 

    Regardless, you lose..................................................................again.
     
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    In Response to Re: Caldwell Merely a Figurehead in Indy? : gln, I agree that the officiating was awful and that PI call never should have been made. Of course Pats fans aren't willing to admit that Gaffney TD at the back of the endzone was the same. Ultimately, they gave the pats more than they gave the colts because the Gaffney call was points on the board. The PI mistake still gave the pats a chance to keep the colts out of the endzone.  You remember the Gaffney TD, right? He caught the ball and landed with his INSIDE FOOT just inside the goal line. He would have had to cross his outside foot over his inside foot in order to be in bounds all while off balance. Never would have happened but he was hit and the refs gave the pats a make up call.  Everyone knows it.
    Posted by UD6


    If was a tough call either way. Doesnt matter the Troy Brown call before 1/2 (offensive PI) cost the Pats points AND time off the clock. The Colts would never had the time to go down field to score any points never mind 7.  REMEMBER that play?  POINTS and TIME, what about the PI on Caldwell?  Wasnt Caldwell hit when the ball was about 10 feet away from him?  REMEMBER that? see I can do that too. But the score should have been at least 24-3 at 1/2 time (possibly 28-3)!  Even your "god" couldnt have made a game out of that.

    Didnt see posts from king, but blind boy sees only what he wants to see.
     
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    Re: Caldwell Merely a Figurehead in Indy?

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    In Response to Re: Caldwell Merely a Figurehead in Indy? : If was a tough call either way. Doesnt matter the Troy Brown call before 1/2 (offensive PI) cost the Pats points AND time off the clock. The Colts would never had the time to go down field to score any points never mind 7.  REMEMBER that play?  POINTS and TIME, what about the PI on Caldwell?  Wasnt Caldwell hit when the ball was about 10 feet away from him?  REMEMBER that? see I can do that too. But the score should have been at least 24-3 at 1/2 time (possibly 28-3)!  Even your "god" couldnt have made a game out of that. Didnt see posts from king, but blind boy sees only what he wants to see.
    Posted by gln826

    The Troy Brown Call was absolutely correct, he chipped the linebacker covering Watson off of his coverage.  You can't do that.  I watched the play last night and it was absolutely offensive pass interference. 

    I frankly can't believe that both you and Rusty are attempting to use this correct call as an example of bad officiating.  And the colts didn't score 7 pts before the half.  They got a fg.  Are you even recalling the correct game?

    And finally - I agreed the officiating was bad, but it wasn't 18 points given up to lose the game bad.  Remember Brady throwing a pick when it mattered?  
     
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    Tom Brady simply needed to direct his team to a touchdown in the closing moments of the game.  Is that desperation?  I'd call it failure. 

    I accept that you refuse to admit that Troy Brown caused the PI that helped stop the pats drive that ended up giving 3 points to the colts before the half, but your lack of admission doesn't make you right.  Troy Brown committed textbook OPI.  Further, after failing on the drive, the pats punted the colts back to their 12 yd line.  Credit your d for keeping the colts out of the endzone and only giving up a FG. 

    Pick plays that aren't called are those that occur either without contact or with incidental contact.  Brown's move was essentially to go down and block the linebacker off of his coverage then bounce off of a route.  It was an upfield block on a pass play.  It was easily seen and perfectly called. 
     
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