Re: Calling all Maroney backers
posted at 8/30/2009 6:31 PM EDT
- TrueChamp
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Re: Calling all Maroney backers:
In Response to Re: Calling all Maroney backers : Look, Maroney is similar to Marion Barber. If he could run like him I doubt Pats' fans would think he is a bust. You play for the most powerful offense in NFL history, you don't have to average 10 yards a run all you have to do is give them something to work with. Imagine if Maroney just got us two yards and then Welker coverts for an 8 yard catch. The Safeties would have to move up and leave Randy Moss in one-on-one coverage.
Posted by 49Patriots
Well he averages 4.4 yards so your 2 yard theory looks pretty safe.
Re: Calling all Maroney backers
posted at 8/30/2009 7:05 PM EDT
Yapple, Lewis has had far more carries than Maroney(check with ZB). I still see Maroney as a sweep, screen pass and potential 3rd down back more than a trap or between the tackles RB (a job that Morris, Faulk,Taylor and BGE can do). I'm not sure what it is. it might be going down after first contact...I don't know...I do think our Pats have a stable of backs capable of getting the job done if Maroney or anyone else falters..I never saw Maroney as a feature guy like Lewis or LT or whoever, despite being drafted in the 1st round and in the Pats offense he doesn't have to be the feature back to be effective. I think we can all agree, at this point, if turns out to be faulk revisited that would fine with most of us. It'd be unrealistic to think he;s going morph into Peterson or any other feature back any time soon.
Just my two cents.
Re: Calling all Maroney backers
posted at 8/30/2009 7:15 PM EDT
Maroney is a bust as a first round pick but he is still a servicable player on this team. He will be needed at some point this season because the top backs on this roster have big time durability issues. Maroney is included in that group as far as durability goes. Taylor and Morris both have a history of injuries and I'll take Maroney as my second or third back on the roster any day.
And whether you liked or hated him, Ellis Hobbs was a very good kick returner and there is a void left with his departure. I think Maroney can fill that void at a level close to Hobbs. he will be considered a first round bust, but he is still a serviceable player in the NFL, his future I believe is as a replacement at third down back once Faulk retires.
bust: yes, considering where he was drafted.
worth keeping around: for the right price, yes.
Re: Calling all Maroney backers
posted at 8/30/2009 7:25 PM EDT
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Yeah,the 3 of you that are left.Specifically Olsonic.What is your excuse going to be this week after Larry once again proved my point that at best he is Faulk's future replacement.Green-Ellis is twice the back he is and even Stevie Wonder can see that.Thank God BB brought in both Taylor's to keep this future bust nailed to the bench once the real games begin.Unless Larry grows a pair real quick,he'll go the way of Blair Thomas faster than you can say Mosi Tatupu!
Posted by mojobag101
+1
I never saw anything in Maroney, even after his first year. How/why people saw him as a premium RB anchoring the running game for years is beyond me. Wishful thinking? Methinks.
With Moroney, the team never knows if their running game will be in operation, even in the big games. Of course, this puts all of the pressure on the pass; making the opposing defensive game that much easier. Stop betting the Pat's future on Maroney- he's a backup, at best.
Re: Calling all Maroney backers
posted at 8/30/2009 8:52 PM EDT
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Re: Calling all Maroney backers:
In Response to Re: Calling all Maroney backers : Look, Maroney is similar to Marion Barber. If he could run like him I doubt Pats' fans would think he is a bust. You play for the most powerful offense in NFL history, you don't have to average 10 yards a run all you have to do is give them something to work with. Imagine if Maroney just got us two yards and then Welker coverts for an 8 yard catch. The Safeties would have to move up and leave Randy Moss in one-on-one coverage.
Posted by 49Patriots
The may have been teammates, but they aren't similar runners. Barber is balls-to-the-wall, pedal to the metal, hard-nosed runner. Laura is, well......, laura.
Re: Calling all Maroney backers
posted at 8/31/2009 1:31 AM EDT
- Olsonic
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Calling all Maroney backers:
Yeah,the 3 of you that are left.Specifically Olsonic
LOL..
Imagine having an axe to grind with me because you are stewing over my previous point i made about you calling Maroney a "pus$y". Without mentioning
anything about maroney as a feature back in the NFL, i attacked the know-nothing macho-men who called Maroney a light-weight when the guy played with injuries most couldn't imagine.
I found what I posted about maroney and I'm going to repost it here:
"Lawrence maroney played last season with a BROKEN shoulder.
He played runningback, in the NFL.... with a broken shoulder.
Watch who you are calling a "beeyatch" Mr .Keyboard quarterback. You wouldn't last through halftime in a high school football game with a broken shoulder let alone fathom the abuse you would take in a single NFL running-play.
classic example of Bill Belichick's reluctance to give away injury information backfiring in unexpected places. Clearly, had more patriots fans been aware of the pain he must have been playing in, surely they would give him more of a break.
Leatherhelmet created an account and mashed his biceps against the keyboard and left us with this contemptible wall of text that only makes me wonder if I should be embarrassed for reading it."my "maroney backing" is just
fact-backing. Something most people on these boards don't have a concept of.
Re: Calling all Maroney backers
posted at 8/31/2009 2:20 AM EDT
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If Maroney was a free agent off another team then most people here would want to sign him for the right price. Everyone would talk about the great finish to the end of the 2007 season he had and since he was a first round pick then he must have talent and potential. Sure he's been injured but he's an excellent kick returner, great in the open field and if he can stay healthy then he'll absolutely be worth a roster spot. Well NE already has him at a cheap salary and it would actually cost a million more against the cap to cut him. Lower your sky high expectations a little bit, not like he's the 2nd overall pick of that draft - Bush who hasn't done sh!t. Watch out for LM stepping it up in the passing game this year too.
Re: Calling all Maroney backers
posted at 8/31/2009 4:56 AM EDT
Wohsvn007@yahoo.comatch who you are calling a "beeyatch" Mr .Keyboard quarterback. You wouldn't last through halftime in a high school football game with a broken shoulder let alone fathom the abuse you would take in a single NFL running-play.
Dear Olsonic:
Making rash decisions based on an emotional outburst is such a feminine trait.For all we know,Leather helmet actually played the game when players went both ways,and i'm not commenting on your sexual orientation.I Don't believe anyone has ever questioned Maroney's Man hood in matters outside of his running style.He simply lacks the running style which led to Sb's won by both BB and his teacher Bill Parcells.The Pats won SB's with running backs who could move the chains on a consistant basis.Whether or not there was a huge hole.Mr. Maroney is probably more talented than Antoine Smith ,but given the choice,I'd rather have Mr. Smiths hard hitting running style than Maroneys Herschel Walker imitation.Lets face it, the Cowboys became a powerhouse once again when they traded Walker before the league caught on that he was actually a detriment to any good offensive coordinators gameplan.Do you remember the saying"3 yards and a cloud of dust"Football like most pursuits is a combination of skill and consistancy,and although maroney has the skill set, he simply lacks the consistancy to be of use in other than a situational role.BTW, I was in the minority when I posted that Bush was another Napolean Kaufman with better receiving skills and that it was a no brainer to take Super Mario over his over rated a.s.s.Your lot in life determines your expectations and as we would expect a Harvard Grad to out perform a community college grad,we expect a 1st round draft pick to be more than potential entering his 4th NFL season. Also by Joe81 mentioning Reggie Bush, he actually argues against himself by saying he hasnt done sh!t...
Bush 38 games 1550 yrds rushing, 3.7 ypc, 12 td's
1599 yrds receiving, 8 td's
Maroney 30 games 1673 yds rushing, 4.3 ypc, 12 td's
213 yds receiving, 1 td
So i guess Bush is only a bust because he was drafted number 2...oops ,that would mean he is a victim of his elevated expectations based on where he was picked....JUST THE FACTS MAM!!!!
Re: Calling all Maroney backers
posted at 8/31/2009 5:08 AM EDT
P.S. Like I said before,as a Pats fan, I would love nothing more than to have Maroney make me eat old rotten crow by turning out to be a great NFL running back,but upon entering yr 4, I have adopted the Missouri State Slogan "SHOW ME"
Re: Calling all Maroney backers
posted at 8/31/2009 5:39 AM EDT
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Re: Calling all Maroney backers:
Maroney is a bust as a first round pick but he is still a servicable player on this team. He will be needed at some point this season because the top backs on this roster have big time durability issues. Maroney is included in that group as far as durability goes. Taylor and Morris both have a history of injuries and I'll take Maroney as my second or third back on the roster any day. And whether you liked or hated him, Ellis Hobbs was a very good kick returner and there is a void left with his departure. I think Maroney can fill that void at a level close to Hobbs. he will be considered a first round bust, but he is still a serviceable player in the NFL, his future I believe is as a replacement at third down back once Faulk retires. bust: yes, considering where he was drafted. worth keeping around: for the right price, yes.
Posted by pmoneydowns
Thank you for illustrating my point of being a bust based on expectations and lets face it,when it comes to sports,where u were drafted means alot.Patriot nation is calling O'Connell a bust when he was a 3rd round pick.This is based solely on the Pats striking gold with Brady and Cassell as late round picks thus elevating our expectations of every QB drafted any higher.For example ~Other 3rd round qb's ....2006 Brodie Croyle,Charlie Whitehurst.....2005 ANDREW WALTER,Charlie Frye,David Greene....only Trent Edwards 2007 and Matt Shaub 2004 are starters and I dont think anyone is waiting for them to become anything more than servicable NFL QB's
