Can Maroney be the new Faulk??

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    Re: Can Maroney be the new Faulk??

    Maroney showed some hands last year, and I remember thinking maybe his destiny is as a 3rd down type back and not a lead back.  But I don't think he's the receiver that Faulk is -- Faulk has a nose for the first down marker -- and I am not sure how he does at blitz pickup.  I remember that pass protection was a knock on Maroney in his earlier years, not sure he's improved because faulk has been such a rock there for years. 

    Is Maroney disciplined and elusive enough to run draws and screens, and can he be a heady enough receiver to run his routes in a way that he's always in position to pick up 1st downs?  Not sure, he'd need to prove it. 

    We've really been spoiled to have a guy like Faulk to rely on for all these years. 
     
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    Unfortunately not.IMO. Faulk has the IT factor and I haven't seen it out of LM yet. Faulk makes plays on 3rd down that sometimes he has no right making. Maroney hasn't done much to impress yet. I believe we'll be drafting a running back or two in next years draft.
     
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    No no no.  Maroney can't catch worth beans.  He can't even run forward without hesitating and slowing down.  He can't do anything. 
     
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    mmmm IDK maybe make a good 2nd RB but his ball handing skills aren't that solid so catch and run IDK. This is make or break year for him. He isn't that talented to be used in multiple positions but maybe he is and just needs to get his confidence up, we'll see.
     
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    I really don't understand where this notion that Maroney is good in open space comes from. He doesn't have good foot speed or lateral movement to make defenders miss.

    Unless he hits a hole and has a couple of seconds to get up to full speed, he's useless.

    Comparing him to Faulk is like comparing apples and hammers. It makes no sense.
     
     
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    In Response to Re: Can Maroney be the new Faulk??:
    Unfortunately not.IMO. Faulk has the IT factor and I haven't seen it out of LM yet. Faulk makes plays on 3rd down that sometimes he has no right making. Maroney hasn't done much to impress yet. I believe we'll be drafting a running back or two in next years draft.
    Posted by ewhite1065


    So true about the IT factor.  Faulk has always had it.  Welker has it.  Troy Brown had it.  You can count on guys like that to make the impossible catch, to get open when the team absolutely needs it, and to find the first down marker.  Best of all, they rarely make mental mistakes that kill drives.  I think Maroney is at best part of a running game, not a lead guy, and not valued enough to be here beyond next year.  I think he'll leave and go someplace where he thinks he can be the man, and I don't think the team will shed too many tears.     
     
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    I would say he has little or no chance at becoming the next Kevin Faulk. He would be a decent RB if he would stop dancing on every carry,but hey this is who he is.. He should just change his name to Fred Astaire at least it would be an appropo name.
     
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    Everybody seems to forget that at the beginning of Kevin Faulks career, Kevin had the "dropsies" himself.
    The yardage Kevin gets on 3rd down is an accomplishment, but I would not discount Maroney.Look at Fauls eary record
    YearTeamGames
    Played
    Rushing
    Att.
    YardsAvg.TD1st
    Downs
    LongFumbFumb
    Lost
    1999New England Patriots11672273.4174332
    2000New England Patriots161645703.54311842
    2001New England Patriots15411694.1192400
    2002New England Patriots15522715.2284500
    2003New England Patriots15
    LongFumbFumb
    Lost
    4332
    1842
    2400
    4500
    2333
    1786383.6028

    2333
     
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    viewer222

    I was going to bring this up.  Folks weren't following the Pats back then or they have selective memories.  I always thought that Faulk was going to get cut at some time back then.  All of a sudden he had a role in things.  This is where I think Maroney will end up as well.  His got the talent to do this very well and should come cheap unless he really thinks he's a starter and will try elsewhere.  But I think he knows where he stands in all this. 
     
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    That came out a mess This is the link:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Faulk
     
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    Can Maroney be a new...Maroney?
     
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    never, he's a bust
     
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    viewer222 I was going to bring this up.  Folks weren't following the Pats back then or they have selective memories.  I always thought that Faulk was going to get cut at some time back then.  All of a sudden he had a role in things.  This is where I think Maroney will end up as well.  His got the talent to do this very well and should come cheap unless he really thinks he's a starter and will try elsewhere.  But I think he knows where he stands in all this. 
    Posted by garytx


    Faulk was once fumble-prone, but that was when he was in the mix to be more of a runner than a 3rd down guy.  Once he figured out he was a role player, he settled down and became the Faulk we all know.  But you're right, his first few years in the league he looked a bit iffy as a prospect.  His skill set, however, has always been more suited to his current role, while Maroney may or may not possess those abilities. 
     
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    Can Maroney be groomed to be a pass catcher out of the backfield? In open space he is very quick and could be a weapon. As a pure running back his hesitation at the line has been a big problem but with Faulk near the end groom Maroney as his heir to 3rd down pass plays. Just a thought.
    Posted by 183CLV


    I've always thought he was better in open field, so, use him for screens and play action.  Maybe, it would help his running game a little by being less predictable.
     
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    He has caught some passes and turned them into big plays but that is not all Faulk does, Faulk can read a defense, Faulk can pass block, and Faulk does not just catch the ball sometimes he has the best hands of any RB in football IMO. Maroney is no where near as close as you think.
    Posted by MVPkilla4life



    LOL....true. why did he have to stay after skool w/ BB last year :)
     
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    Maroney is good after he gets the ball in space.  Getting there is the problem.  He can't do it on a handoff.  He can only do it on a pass if he stops, turns and faces Brady, waits for the ball to arrive, and then hope no one is there to tackle him yet.  He cannot catch the ball on the run 1/100th as well as Faulk.  Faulk's ability to catch like a receiver is lightyears ahead of Baloney. 

    Anyone see Balaroney tonight?  Dancing left, right and everywhere but straight ahead.  Can't wait for this guy to get cut.
     
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    Only if Chad Jackson can be the new Troy Brown
     
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    In Response to Re: Can Maroney be the new Faulk??:
    Everybody seems to forget that at the beginning of Kevin Faulks career, Kevin had the "dropsies" himself. The yardage Kevin gets on 3rd down is an accomplishment, but I would not discount Maroney.Look at Fauls eary record Year Team Games Played Rushing Att. Yards Avg. TD 1st Downs Long Fumb Fumb Lost 1999 New England Patriots 11 67 227 3.4 1 7 43 3 2 2000 New England Patriots 16 164 570 3.5 4 31 18 4 2 2001 New England Patriots 15 41 169 4.1 1 9 24 0 0 2002 New England Patriots 15 52 271 5.2 2 8 45 0 0 2003 New England Patriots 15 Long Fumb Fumb Lost 43 3 2 18 4 2 24 0 0 45 0 0 23 3 3 178 638 3.6 0 28 23 3 3
    Posted by viewer222


    thank you for bringing this up. i do remember him commiting a couple key drops. unfortunately, my memory on this a bit hazy but i seem to remember at least one drop at or close to the end zone.


     
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    Can Shawn Crable be the new Willie McGinnest?

    Let's wait and see how this shakes out.
     
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    In Response to Re: Can Maroney be the new Faulk??:
    In Response to Re: Can Maroney be the new Faulk?? : Faulk was once fumble-prone, but that was when he was in the mix to be more of a runner than a 3rd down guy.  Once he figured out he was a role player, he settled down and became the Faulk we all know.  But you're right, his first few years in the league he looked a bit iffy as a prospect.  His skill set, however, has always been more suited to his current role, while Maroney may or may not possess those abilities. 
    Posted by CablesWyndBairn


    It might have been a maturity issue for Faulk and that's what I'm thinking is going on with Maroney.  The burden of being the premier runner might be a little overwhelming.  The hunger to succeed is too great and bad things happen.  Sorry, getting to much psychological here.  Anyway, if Maroney can't cut it taking over for Faulk he probably won't have a future here or anywhere else in the NFL.
     
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    I thought that Endleman was in the backfield to learn how to block so HE could be the aire apparent to Faulk.
     
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    This thread is so revealing. Maroney can't possibly be Faulk? 

    How many people here have watched the Pats longer than a few years? Faulk was almost canned from this team, and was constantly on the watch list for possible cuts. He had major trouble getting reps as well. He never  figured out how to run from behind the QB unless in a third down situation (read: when the field is essentially open) and had hands that were too poor to be a feature back. That guy was in the doghouse all the time. He improved. 
     
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    ZB-your dead on it.
     
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    This thread is so revealing. Maroney can't possibly be Faulk?  How many people here have watched the Pats longer than a few years? Faulk was almost canned from this team, and was constantly on the watch list for possible cuts. He had major trouble getting reps as well. He never  figured out how to run from behind the QB unless in a third down situation (read: when the field is essentially open) and had hands that were too poor to be a feature back. That guy was in the doghouse all the time. He improved. 
    Posted by zbellino


    The only thing revealing about this thread is that your an idiot and know nothing about football. Nice camera though fairy boy.
     
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    ZB

    You're absolutely right about Faulk, the more touches he got the more he fumbled.  He was in the doghouse and it looked like he was a wasted draft pick.  But I remember him saying a long time ago that when he finally embraced his role as a specialist and let go of his dream to be a primary ball carrier things made sense.  That was when he became Meggett-like.  I think BB gets a lot of credit for helping him turn around his career from underachieving RB to 3rd down ace.  He's one of those change of pace guys that are more productive with limited touches, if that makes sense.      
     
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