You are mistaken, check your post. You said 3 of clevelands 4 sacks came on play action, that is why I cited not establishing a run and coming out throwing.
I double checked. In both games there were four sacks and in both three of those four occured on play action passes.
Here's the sequence of plays (all three possessions) that lead up to the first sack in the Cleveland game. Are they ignoring the run here? They open with an incomplete pass, which puts them into 2nd and 10, so it's not terribly surprising that first sequence never gets a run. But they go back to the run on the next two sequences. Their problem (and the only reason they get away from the run) is because they miss on some first down passes. This creates a situation where passing is more necessary. It's situational play calling. It's not abandoning the run.
ew England Patriots at 09:18
8-B.Cundiff kicks 65 yards from CLE 35 to end zone, Touchback.
1-10-NE 20(9:18) 12-T.Brady pass incomplete deep left to 87-R.Gronkowski.
2-10-NE 20(9:13) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass incomplete short right to 87-R.Gronkowski.
3-10-NE 20(9:10) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass short left to 34-S.Vereen to NE 25 for 5 yards (43-T.Ward; 29-L.McFadden).
4-5-NE 25(8:39) 6-R.Allen punts 53 yards to CLE 22, Center-48-D.Aiken, fair catch by 33-J.Poyer.
- New England Patriots at 04:47
1-10-NE 18(4:47) 29-L.Blount up the middle to NE 24 for 6 yards (52-D.Jackson; 99-P.Kruger).2-4-NE 24(4:19) 29-L.Blount up the middle to NE 35 for 11 yards (39-T.Gipson; 22-B.Skrine).1-10-NE 35(3:51) 12-T.Brady pass incomplete deep left to 11-J.Edelman.2-10-NE 35(3:45) 12-T.Brady pass incomplete short middle to 29-L.Blount [71-A.Rubin].3-10-NE 35(3:41) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass deep left intended for 82-J.Boyce INTERCEPTED by 52-D.Jackson at CLE 44. 52-D.Jackson to CLE 44 for no gain (82-J.Boyce).New England Patriots at 14:45
8-B.Cundiff kicks 69 yards from CLE 35 to NE -4. 82-J.Boyce to NE 14 for 18 yards (33-J.Poyer).
(14:41) 22-S.Ridley left tackle to NE 16 for 2 yards (93-J.Hughes).
(14:10) 12-T.Brady pass short right to 34-S.Vereen to NE 23 for 7 yards (52-D.Jackson).
(13:40) 29-L.Blount up the middle to NE 24 for 1 yard (53-C.Robertson; 99-P.Kruger).
(12:58) 22-S.Ridley right end to NE 27 for 3 yards (39-T.Gipson).
(12:18) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass short middle to 80-D.Amendola to NE 40 for 13 yards (52-D.Jackson).
(11:47) 12-T.Brady pass short right to 46-J.Develin to CLE 29 for 31 yards (43-T.Ward; 51-B.Mingo).
(10:58) 12-T.Brady pass incomplete deep left to 11-J.Edelman. Penalty on NE, Illegal Shift, declined.
(10:53) 12-T.Brady sacked at CLE 37 for -8 yards (51-B.Mingo).
(10:26) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass incomplete short right to 34-S.Vereen.
4-18-CLE 37(10:22) 6-R.Allen punts 25 yards to CLE 12, Center-48-D.Aiken, fair catch by 15-D.Bess.
Of course shot gun works too. the only person who has said that shot gun is always bad and running is always good, is you in your post above. This is what people do when they become frustrated in a discussion, they sensationalize anothers posters opinion, and try to put words in their mouth.
What myself and many other posters here would like to see, is a commitment to balance. We believe it helps our offense, and actually helps the passing game. You seem to think our offense is just fine, no matter who calls plays, no matter what the outcome. It is preposterous to think that coaching and game planning is infallible. Especially when your coaches are plucked for head gigs every few years.
I think our offense is damn good. The stats (points scored, which is the most important of those stats) seem to bear that out. I'm not saying the coaches are infallible, but I don't see any systemic, ongoing issues with play calling. I think the offense is run quite well and has been for years regardless of offensive coordinator.
I also understand that the Pats pass just slightly above the NFL average. They are passing roughly 60% of the time this year, while the NFL average is about 58%. So their commitment to the run is middle of the pack. I just don't see run-pass balance as an issue for this team.
We have the greatest QB in NFL history, it is only natural to fall back on his right shoulder, and put the running game on the back burner, its just that from 09 to 2012 we did it often and became a one dimensional offense that no longer took what the defense gave them.
Again, the myth is that we are pass heavy. We aren't. We are right about in the middle of the pack for NFL teams if you look at running percentage. We are 11th in rushing attempts. The idea that we "back burner" the run is completely and utterly a misconception.
I think BB and McD made a concentrated effort to change that last year as we were 2nd in the league in rushing attempts only to seattle. This year despite our injuries and ridleys fumblitis we are still 12th in rushing.
Yes. We are rushing plenty. This idea that we lack balance (at least as balance is defined in today's NFL) is just wrong. Even in 2011, our most unbalanced year recently, we were still near the middle of the pack in rushing percentage.
You have to be kidding. Look at the play chart you put up, and remember, this is the 1st qtr, we aren't even losing....
So what. Passing on first down--even passing a lot isn't necessarily bad play calling.
Yes, an incomplete pass on first down tends to set up more passing. This is not abandoning the run. It's just what's required in the situation based on what happened on first down. Poor execution and/or good defense. But not bad play calling. You can hardly fault a team for coming out passing in the first series. There's no rule that you must run on the first play of the game.
Run 11 1st down
Pass short-- 5 yards
Bad execution, but they hardly abandoned the run. In fact, this series they are trying to establish that they can run. Mixing in a pass that doesn't work isn't bad play calling however. It's not like they should run every play.
Pass -- for 7 yards--the two runs only got 3 yards together--without this pass the running would have failed to produce the first down.
Run 1st down
Then we finish the drive with
Pass -- for 13 yards
Pass -- for 31 yards
Pass The incompletion here hurts them and sets up what follows. But again, not every play is going to be successful, but that doesn't mean the call was bad.
Pass sack (this is the play action--remember the point of the whole post was to show that they had been running before this)
The run game was almost solely responsible for moving the chains. (But still the majority of yards gained are through the air, despite the issues they are having with the pass here.) You would point out a short run in short down and distance and paint it a bad play all in order to support your argument.
Take a long look at those series of calls, and tell me if sometomes we go away from the run when its working and keep passing when its not.. in the plays you posted we had 5 rushes for 23 yards, 1 was a 3rd and short situation where the 1 yard we gained was the 1st down.
Yes the run was working, which is why the play action was not just coming out of the blue. They were having execution issues with the pass, but they also had several good pass plays that got significant yardage (56 yards). You don't give up on the pass quite so quickly either. Most of the pass calls were required because of situation. You completely ignore situation in your analysis as if it doesn't matter.
We had 13 passes, with 5 completions with 1 interception and 1 sack. Looks like maybe we should have used the Baltimore game plan against cleveland, and maybe we wouldn't have needed another come back.