Re: Can We Officially Say Ocho Looks Like A Major Bust?
posted at 10/17/2011 10:29 AM EDT
In Response to Re: Can We Officially Say Ocho Looks Like A Major Bust?
[QUOTE]What rookie WRs are putting up solid numbers at WR? What's Julie Jones done? Catch 20 balls as a #1 and pull a hammy? I am all for doing what helps the Pats win games, but we saw Branch not targeted in Buffalo, a similar game to oyesterday where NE ignored the run and it allowed Dallas to to tee off on Brady and to combat what the Pats were trying to do on offense. It's not a secrat that #85 looks better, as does any of the WRs or TEs, when we actually keep running the ball. Ocho is like Stallworth, a last option, except I think Ocho is far superior route runner in this offense. At best he needs to be a Gaffney in November of 2006 if you are being fair. Is Price an upgrade? Maybe. Hard to tell since no one sees practices. Go check Gaffney's numbers that that time. The only argument is money. So, if the money is the issue and they don't want to wait, so be it. This team has 4 other weapons who are superior players than that of #85 and the mid field throws are more attractive. Frankly, I am a lot more tired of watching Brady in the shotgun bouncing up and down wanting 10 seconds on every snap to thread the needle down the middle of the field. He barely looks down the flanks much anymore. He just stares down Gronk or Welker in games where teams only have to worry about the pass. How about the Sean Lee INT? Brady took forever, didn't throw it away and then lobbed a wounded duck into a crowd of 5 Cowboys defenders. Explain that horrendous decision. What does that have to do with Ochocinco? Brady still looks like he's spoiled with the core group of WRs here and expects a perfect plane to deliver the ball. And the running thing is clearly still an issue for our sputtering offense that apparently thinks it can get away without running it. The only difference between last years's Cleveland game and this one is our D was outstanding, bailing out the offense. Blame starts with O'Brien and Brady for not doing a better job over 4 qtrs as it has every other week fans look to scapegoat #85. If it's not Haynesworth, it's #85.
Posted by RidingWithTheKing[/QUOTE]
Sorry King, I've been pulling for this guy to come on and make a difference and it is not happening. Brady and other players still have to tell him where to line up, this far into the season. Yesterday after one play, Brady was yelling at him, ala Joey Galloway.
Ocho is getting paid a lot of money to have no catches in a game. His contract is guaranteed and his signing bonus was paid to him and is in his pocket. He needs to catch more balls, or he needs to be replaced with someone, anyone who can & will.
This is a receiver who has had multiple thousand yard receiving seasons in his career and although we weren't expecting that, we also weren't expecting 9 receptions for 196 yards over six games to date. I note that you had plenty of problems during the lockout about players being paid so much, relative to the owners who were providing so much. Well, is the value proposition being met by Ochocinqo thus far? In my opinion, so far he has not provided that value.
Despite your excuse for Ocho of a poorly called offensive game, I note that other players, caught passes yesterday, Branch, Welker, Hernandez, I think Woodhead had one, and Gronk of course. Are you really going to tell us that because the run was not executed as many times as you think it should have been, ( and I aggee with you that it wasn't), that, that is the reason that Ocho had no catches yesterday? He had no catches yesterday because the offense is still not learned and that is also playing into his lack of plays on the field. There is no reason to put a player on the field just to take up space if another player will be better in executing that play. I think this is what is really happening with Ocho, due to his lack of learned knowledge about the PATS offense, he is viewed as a liability on the field if the coaches know he doesn't have a specific play down and judging from his lack of time on the field it must be quite a few.
All of that said, I still hope that he will come around a contribute but to say his lack of production is on Bill O'Brien, misses the point by a mile where Ocho is concerned. He needs to get on the field and execute. If he does that and he get opn, Tom will target him just like the rest.