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    Earlier in Brady's successful career it was always about Brady doing more with less.  That was the legend. 

     

     




     

    More lies and nonsense from the Dolts troll.

    Obviously Brady has been much more productive in his later career than his early career. So what you say makes no sense, as usual.

    The legend was that Brady was clutch and Fetus Head was a choker. Of course that was actually before Fetus Head threw a pick six to lose a SB.

    But when YOUR agenda is 100% consumed with making Fetus Head out to be the greatest ever, no lie is left unturned by you in that endeavor.

    Now go brush up on your "harmless college pranks". Maybe you can do better with that than your hero did and not have a judge decree you as a liar.

     



    There's that legend too, but when you peel back the onion, you see that the legend depended on a lot of things most other QB's never had.  That's not to say that Brady hasn't had some great moments.  There's no doubt about that.  But he's given credit absent his kicker and defense, and now that his defense is like most others and he can't produce, we see who he really is,  Cue Denny Green.

     

     




    And as I have bludgeoned you repeatedly on troll, the Colts D was was actually better around 40% of the seasons while Manning was up against Brady. So much for your troll work.

     

    And the "Vinatieri" won them for Brady" troll line is absurd. Did Fetus Head set up Vinatieri for a winning SB kick in the 5 years he played with him troll?

    Troll whipped with facts and sent packing with his tail between his legs again.



    Bludgeoned in your own mind, never in reality. 

    Was the colts D better than the pats D in the playoffs?

    How many game winning field goals did Vinatieri kick during the pats successful playoff runs?  How many did he miss? 

    And in the 5 years Manning was with Vinatieri, he set Vinatieri up for what should have been a playoff game winner vs. NYJ.  Vinatieri hit the FG with less than 1 minute to play.  ST and D could not keep the Jets from kicking their own FG to win.  In Manning's wins, he didn't need Vinatieri finish the game with a game winning FG.  He sewed the game up before that became necessary.

     
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    Rusty - but not turnovers in the postseason.  Look it up.  playoff defensive TO's

     

    01-04 - 9 games 25 TO's

    05-curr - 15 games 20 TO's.  

     

     



    Good work troll. But any fool knows those Ds were better than the mickey mouse bunch we have now.

     

     
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    Earlier in Brady's successful career it was always about Brady doing more with less.  That was the legend. 

     

     




     

    More lies and nonsense from the Dolts troll.

    Obviously Brady has been much more productive in his later career than his early career. So what you say makes no sense, as usual.

    The legend was that Brady was clutch and Fetus Head was a choker. Of course that was actually before Fetus Head threw a pick six to lose a SB.

    But when YOUR agenda is 100% consumed with making Fetus Head out to be the greatest ever, no lie is left unturned by you in that endeavor.

    Now go brush up on your "harmless college pranks". Maybe you can do better with that than your hero did and not have a judge decree you as a liar.

     



    There's that legend too, but when you peel back the onion, you see that the legend depended on a lot of things most other QB's never had.  That's not to say that Brady hasn't had some great moments.  There's no doubt about that.  But he's given credit absent his kicker and defense, and now that his defense is like most others and he can't produce, we see who he really is,  Cue Denny Green.

     

     




    It has nothing to do with the defense.  NE's D led the NFL in 2003 in turnovers, and he's had those kinds of Ds, giving him MORE drives in an OFFENSIVE era, the last 3 years.  He has more drives added into his offense the last 3 years than any other QB.

     

    Obviously, the D hasn't been as experienced and just like all other D's, they are affected by the Polian infused rule changes to help franchises make more money via Goodell, but Brady's weapons are superior.

    The point doesn't change. He's not as good with superior weapons at slot WR and TE.  That's two positions where he has superior talent. And how Brady runs the offense is his responsibility just like it was under Weis.

    Brady is slowly ruining the back end of his career by forgetting the details at the position. That's what has changed.

    He got a taste of personal glory in 2007 and thinks it's more about quick stat production than it is doing the small things right.

    I couldn't believe him with his arms folded pouting on that sideline in that SB 46 footage.

     

     

     



    Rusty - but not turnovers in the postseason.  Look it up.  playoff defensive TO's

     

    01-04 - 9 games 25 TO's

    05-curr - 15 games 20 TO's.  

    Brady couldn't lose in those early years given the defensive support.  Comparatively, 05-current that same support hasn't been there.  That said, Brady's been better, has won 2 MVP's, was required to lead the team more than in the winning years, ran offenses that ranked in the top 10 since 05 but did not produce those kinds of results in playoff losses.  

    In other words, yes, the defense was not as good, BUT Brady hasn't lived up to his end of the deal in playoff losses.  EG - the defense gave up 8 more points than its avg to Baltimore in the playoffs.  the offense however, produced 22 points less than its avg in the same game.  That's on Brady.




    But of course you take the facts and spin like the Fetus Head loving troll you are.

    Dropped passes, receivers who couldn't get open, poor running and poor blocking all made it impossible for Brady to do much better than he did. Just zip it and learn to live with the fact that Brady is clearly better than your "harmless college prank hero", troll.

     

     
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    Well I am not sure I agree with the Manning comment.  As talented as Harrison was, he was never a factor in the playoffs.  the pats defense frankly stuffed Edgerrin James.  I admit that early in Manning's career, the pats defense had Manning's #, and McGinest had a cleverly timed injury that may have given the pats defense enough of a blow so that they could finish a goal line stand.  Bush league, but clever. 

     

    There were a number of other unfortunate things with Manning - not to say that at times he didn't create some of his own problems, but...

     



    Well, tjat's how it turned out.  But, Harrison, James, Stokley, Pollard, then adding Wayne in 2003 were VERY good weapons for Manning. I mean, don't lie.

     

    Harrison is a HOFer.  Edgerrin James was an All Pro back every year. Regardless of those teams' penchant for playing poorly outside the dome in the postseason because it was finesse, the point is, those weapons were always considered better than what Brady had, which like you said, was a big argument as to why Brady was deemed superior to Manning at that time, even with lesser stats.

    James was a first team all pro once (99), 2nd team (00, 04).  Knee injury 01. 

    As a Pats fan, I don't care about Brady's regular season stats just like I am sure you didn't care that much about Manning's as a Colts fan who had never seen a SB before.

    The idea is to win it all, not count stats.

    Brady has better weaponry overall from 2007-2012, but it's the STYLE of play that he chooses as the QB, that is the difference. Make no mistake, Brady has a say in who he throws to, who he likes to throw to, how comfortable he is with gameplans, etc. 

    Our pink hats want to take all accountability from Brady, which I feel is actually a big reason why he does this every year now. He's being coddled by our own fans who allow him to walk off that podium, acting as if he was just fine on that field and there's always next year.

    He has the supermodel wife, jet setting offseason lifestyle and 3 kids now.  Things have changed.

    You can't pretend to want to win.

     



    Yes - Manning had some good weapons, at the time, particularly James and Harrison. 

    In 03 - the mugging game - Harrison had 3 catches for 19 yds.  In 04 - James had 14 carries for 39 yds. 

    Harrison may not get to the HOF given his shortcomings in the postseason and how difficult it has become for receivers to get in. 

    And I'd agree those weapons were considered better than Brady's.  What I believe those is that the pats D at the time were the equal or better than the colts weapons while Brady's weapons were better than the colts d if you get my point.

     
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    Rusty - but not turnovers in the postseason.  Look it up.  playoff defensive TO's

     

    01-04 - 9 games 25 TO's

    05-curr - 15 games 20 TO's.  

     

     

     



    Good work troll. But any fool knows those Ds were better than the mickey mouse bunch we have now.

     

     

     



    Did you watch the SB? Each D allowed around 30 points each.

     

    The only reason why Balt won is because Kaepernick and Harbaugh choked in 4 tries from the 5 yard line.

    Offense wins championships in today's game which has been proven in the last 5 SBs.

    It's very clear you have literally no idea what Roger Goodell is up to as commissioner. Not surprising, considering how obtuse you are. You live in the past.

     

     

     




    Since the rules change in 2005 the SB winner has averaged 26 points scored (including any defensive or ST scoring). That's around a FG more scoring for the winner than the league average in 1965, 1950, 1958, etc. etc.

     

    Junior crashes and burns yet again when facts are stacked up next to his mindless spin. LMAO@U

     
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    Earlier in Brady's successful career it was always about Brady doing more with less.  That was the legend. 

     

     




     

    More lies and nonsense from the Dolts troll.

    Obviously Brady has been much more productive in his later career than his early career. So what you say makes no sense, as usual.

    The legend was that Brady was clutch and Fetus Head was a choker. Of course that was actually before Fetus Head threw a pick six to lose a SB.

    But when YOUR agenda is 100% consumed with making Fetus Head out to be the greatest ever, no lie is left unturned by you in that endeavor.

    Now go brush up on your "harmless college pranks". Maybe you can do better with that than your hero did and not have a judge decree you as a liar.

     



    There's that legend too, but when you peel back the onion, you see that the legend depended on a lot of things most other QB's never had.  That's not to say that Brady hasn't had some great moments.  There's no doubt about that.  But he's given credit absent his kicker and defense, and now that his defense is like most others and he can't produce, we see who he really is,  Cue Denny Green.

     

     




    It has nothing to do with the defense.  NE's D led the NFL in 2003 in turnovers, and he's had those kinds of Ds, giving him MORE drives in an OFFENSIVE era, the last 3 years.  He has more drives added into his offense the last 3 years than any other QB.

     

    Obviously, the D hasn't been as experienced and just like all other D's, they are affected by the Polian infused rule changes to help franchises make more money via Goodell, but Brady's weapons are superior.

    The point doesn't change. He's not as good with superior weapons at slot WR and TE.  That's two positions where he has superior talent. And how Brady runs the offense is his responsibility just like it was under Weis.

    Brady is slowly ruining the back end of his career by forgetting the details at the position. That's what has changed.

    He got a taste of personal glory in 2007 and thinks it's more about quick stat production than it is doing the small things right.

    I couldn't believe him with his arms folded pouting on that sideline in that SB 46 footage.

     

     

     



    Rusty - but not turnovers in the postseason.  Look it up.  playoff defensive TO's

     

    01-04 - 9 games 25 TO's

    05-curr - 15 games 20 TO's.  

    Brady couldn't lose in those early years given the defensive support.  Comparatively, 05-current that same support hasn't been there.  That said, Brady's been better, has won 2 MVP's, was required to lead the team more than in the winning years, ran offenses that ranked in the top 10 since 05 but did not produce those kinds of results in playoff losses.  

    In other words, yes, the defense was not as good, BUT Brady hasn't lived up to his end of the deal in playoff losses.  EG - the defense gave up 8 more points than its avg to Baltimore in the playoffs.  the offense however, produced 22 points less than its avg in the same game.  That's on Brady.

     




    But of course you take the facts and spin like the Fetus Head loving troll you are.

     

    Dropped passes, receivers who couldn't get open, poor running and poor blocking all made it impossible for Brady to do much better than he did. Just zip it and learn to live with the fact that Brady is clearly better than your "harmless college prank hero", troll.

     



    Facts are facts old man.  the offense produced substantially less than the defense vs. Baltimore.  That's not spin. 

    The spinning is you trying to bring up negative plays of others, but not Brady, who had his share.  That is the very definition of spin, ineffective poorly conceived spin, but spin nonetheless. 

     
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    Earlier in Brady's successful career it was always about Brady doing more with less.  That was the legend. 

     

     




     

    More lies and nonsense from the Dolts troll.

    Obviously Brady has been much more productive in his later career than his early career. So what you say makes no sense, as usual.

    The legend was that Brady was clutch and Fetus Head was a choker. Of course that was actually before Fetus Head threw a pick six to lose a SB.

    But when YOUR agenda is 100% consumed with making Fetus Head out to be the greatest ever, no lie is left unturned by you in that endeavor.

    Now go brush up on your "harmless college pranks". Maybe you can do better with that than your hero did and not have a judge decree you as a liar.

     



    There's that legend too, but when you peel back the onion, you see that the legend depended on a lot of things most other QB's never had.  That's not to say that Brady hasn't had some great moments.  There's no doubt about that.  But he's given credit absent his kicker and defense, and now that his defense is like most others and he can't produce, we see who he really is,  Cue Denny Green.

     

     




    And as I have bludgeoned you repeatedly on troll, the Colts D was was actually better around 40% of the seasons while Manning was up against Brady. So much for your troll work.

     

    And the "Vinatieri" won them for Brady" troll line is absurd. Did Fetus Head set up Vinatieri for a winning SB kick in the 5 years he played with him troll?

    Troll whipped with facts and sent packing with his tail between his legs again.

     

     

     

    Bludgeoned in your own mind, never in reality. 

     


    Let's take a vote on that one troll.

     

    Face it. Your Fetus Head has dismal playoff numbers outside the "barely got in" wildcard teams. He has 19 TDs and 15 INTs outside the wildcard games. Meanwhile Brady has 35 TDs and 19 INTs in the same. Or Brady has 16 more TDs and only 4 more INTs.

    Brady crushes Fetus Head for numbers in the biggest games. The defenses had little to do with it. Troll loses again.

     

     
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    In the strange world of Babe there are no other good NFL teams so every time we lose it must be our fault. Except of course Brady who never makes a mistake.

     
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    Earlier in Brady's successful career it was always about Brady doing more with less.  That was the legend. 

     

     




     

    More lies and nonsense from the Dolts troll.

    Obviously Brady has been much more productive in his later career than his early career. So what you say makes no sense, as usual.

    The legend was that Brady was clutch and Fetus Head was a choker. Of course that was actually before Fetus Head threw a pick six to lose a SB.

    But when YOUR agenda is 100% consumed with making Fetus Head out to be the greatest ever, no lie is left unturned by you in that endeavor.

    Now go brush up on your "harmless college pranks". Maybe you can do better with that than your hero did and not have a judge decree you as a liar.

     



    There's that legend too, but when you peel back the onion, you see that the legend depended on a lot of things most other QB's never had.  That's not to say that Brady hasn't had some great moments.  There's no doubt about that.  But he's given credit absent his kicker and defense, and now that his defense is like most others and he can't produce, we see who he really is,  Cue Denny Green.

     

     




    It has nothing to do with the defense.  NE's D led the NFL in 2003 in turnovers, and he's had those kinds of Ds, giving him MORE drives in an OFFENSIVE era, the last 3 years.  He has more drives added into his offense the last 3 years than any other QB.

     

    Obviously, the D hasn't been as experienced and just like all other D's, they are affected by the Polian infused rule changes to help franchises make more money via Goodell, but Brady's weapons are superior.

    The point doesn't change. He's not as good with superior weapons at slot WR and TE.  That's two positions where he has superior talent. And how Brady runs the offense is his responsibility just like it was under Weis.

    Brady is slowly ruining the back end of his career by forgetting the details at the position. That's what has changed.

    He got a taste of personal glory in 2007 and thinks it's more about quick stat production than it is doing the small things right.

    I couldn't believe him with his arms folded pouting on that sideline in that SB 46 footage.

     

     

     



    Rusty - but not turnovers in the postseason.  Look it up.  playoff defensive TO's

     

    01-04 - 9 games 25 TO's

    05-curr - 15 games 20 TO's.  

    Brady couldn't lose in those early years given the defensive support.  Comparatively, 05-current that same support hasn't been there.  That said, Brady's been better, has won 2 MVP's, was required to lead the team more than in the winning years, ran offenses that ranked in the top 10 since 05 but did not produce those kinds of results in playoff losses.  

    In other words, yes, the defense was not as good, BUT Brady hasn't lived up to his end of the deal in playoff losses.  EG - the defense gave up 8 more points than its avg to Baltimore in the playoffs.  the offense however, produced 22 points less than its avg in the same game.  That's on Brady.

     




    But of course you take the facts and spin like the Fetus Head loving troll you are.

     

    Dropped passes, receivers who couldn't get open, poor running and poor blocking all made it impossible for Brady to do much better than he did. Just zip it and learn to live with the fact that Brady is clearly better than your "harmless college prank hero", troll.

     

     



    Facts are facts old man.  the offense produced substantially less than the defense vs. Baltimore.  That's not spin. 

     

    The spinning is you trying to bring up negative plays of others, but not Brady, who had his share.  That is the very definition of spin, ineffective poorly conceived spin, but spin nonetheless. 




    Taking up Rusty's age slamming remarks because you are getting pulverized on the facts I see. How pathetic of you Dolts troll. Do you mock people because they're black too?

    Facts are facts troll. And the facts are the rest of Brady's offense dropped passes, couldn't get separation, couldn't block and couldn't run.

    Nobody is nominating Brady for a medal in that game, but any objective fan can see he had little to nothing to work with.

     

     
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    The teams in 2003 and 2004 had great defenses that gave up less than 20 points per game.  2003 probably had the best defense.  2004's defense was maybe a little less good than 2003's, but the offense on that team was one of the Pats' best with Dillon at his peak and Branch, Givens, Patton, Brown, Faulk, Graham, and Fauria all contributing.  Starting in 2005, both the offense and defense began to drop off.  Since that time, the offense has often been very good (sometimes even better than the 2004 offense), but the defense has never gotten back to 2004 levels. Since 2004, the Pats just haven't had as complete a team as they had in 2004.  They've done fabulously well to stay highly competitive every year (often thanks to a high-powered offense), but they haven't been as consistently good across all phases of the game as they were back in 2003 and 2004, which means they aren't quite as dominant in the playoffs.  



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    In the strange world of Babe there are no other good NFL teams so every time we lose it must be our fault. Except of course Brady who never makes a mistake.




    Hi Rusty. Figured you would bring in your fake glenr account to try to stop the bleeding hunh? Won't help because you're a dumbkoff and everybody knows it.

     

    Any time a team loses it's their fault genius. Because they didn't play as well as the other team. Whether it is a lack of talent or execution doesn't change that. What would it be, the fault of somebody else?

    Brady makes mistakes. Just way less than anybody else on the team. Or do you know of any other players on the Pats that are guaranteed first ballot HOFers?

     

     
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    Another day, another mass bludgeoning of trolls.

     
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    Another day, another mass bludgeoning of trolls.




    Only fitting seeing as the ignore button returned today so after today, the board will be peaceful again and devoid of stalkers who hijack every thread. He is gonna go crazy when he doesnt have anyone to yell at about Brady S*cking....

     
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    Earlier in Brady's successful career it was always about Brady doing more with less.  That was the legend. 

     

     




     

    More lies and nonsense from the Dolts troll.

    Obviously Brady has been much more productive in his later career than his early career. So what you say makes no sense, as usual.

    The legend was that Brady was clutch and Fetus Head was a choker. Of course that was actually before Fetus Head threw a pick six to lose a SB.

    But when YOUR agenda is 100% consumed with making Fetus Head out to be the greatest ever, no lie is left unturned by you in that endeavor.

    Now go brush up on your "harmless college pranks". Maybe you can do better with that than your hero did and not have a judge decree you as a liar.

     



    There's that legend too, but when you peel back the onion, you see that the legend depended on a lot of things most other QB's never had.  That's not to say that Brady hasn't had some great moments.  There's no doubt about that.  But he's given credit absent his kicker and defense, and now that his defense is like most others and he can't produce, we see who he really is,  Cue Denny Green.

     

     




    And as I have bludgeoned you repeatedly on troll, the Colts D was was actually better around 40% of the seasons while Manning was up against Brady. So much for your troll work.

     

    And the "Vinatieri" won them for Brady" troll line is absurd. Did Fetus Head set up Vinatieri for a winning SB kick in the 5 years he played with him troll?

    Troll whipped with facts and sent packing with his tail between his legs again.

     

     

     

    Bludgeoned in your own mind, never in reality. 

     

     

     


    Let's take a vote on that one troll.

     

    Face it. Your Fetus Head has dismal playoff numbers outside the "barely got in" wildcard teams. He has 19 TDs and 15 INTs outside the wildcard games. Meanwhile Brady has 35 TDs and 19 INTs in the same. Or Brady has 16 more TDs and only 4 more INTs.

    Brady crushes Fetus Head for numbers in the biggest games. The defenses had little to do with it. Troll loses again.

     



    of course, a vote - why?  because you can't stand on your own and you know it.  You can't effectively defend your QB anymore so you call for a vote.  Pathetic. 

    I don't have time for the Manning debate at this time, but to get things started for the future lets look at this year vs. a common opponent in the playoffs.  Manning 3 TD's, Brady 1.  I can go on, but as I said, I'll leave it for some future time.

     
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    Earlier in Brady's successful career it was always about Brady doing more with less.  That was the legend. 

     

     




     

    More lies and nonsense from the Dolts troll.

    Obviously Brady has been much more productive in his later career than his early career. So what you say makes no sense, as usual.

    The legend was that Brady was clutch and Fetus Head was a choker. Of course that was actually before Fetus Head threw a pick six to lose a SB.

    But when YOUR agenda is 100% consumed with making Fetus Head out to be the greatest ever, no lie is left unturned by you in that endeavor.

    Now go brush up on your "harmless college pranks". Maybe you can do better with that than your hero did and not have a judge decree you as a liar.

     



    There's that legend too, but when you peel back the onion, you see that the legend depended on a lot of things most other QB's never had.  That's not to say that Brady hasn't had some great moments.  There's no doubt about that.  But he's given credit absent his kicker and defense, and now that his defense is like most others and he can't produce, we see who he really is,  Cue Denny Green.

     

     




    It has nothing to do with the defense.  NE's D led the NFL in 2003 in turnovers, and he's had those kinds of Ds, giving him MORE drives in an OFFENSIVE era, the last 3 years.  He has more drives added into his offense the last 3 years than any other QB.

     

    Obviously, the D hasn't been as experienced and just like all other D's, they are affected by the Polian infused rule changes to help franchises make more money via Goodell, but Brady's weapons are superior.

    The point doesn't change. He's not as good with superior weapons at slot WR and TE.  That's two positions where he has superior talent. And how Brady runs the offense is his responsibility just like it was under Weis.

    Brady is slowly ruining the back end of his career by forgetting the details at the position. That's what has changed.

    He got a taste of personal glory in 2007 and thinks it's more about quick stat production than it is doing the small things right.

    I couldn't believe him with his arms folded pouting on that sideline in that SB 46 footage.

     

     

     



    Rusty - but not turnovers in the postseason.  Look it up.  playoff defensive TO's

     

    01-04 - 9 games 25 TO's

    05-curr - 15 games 20 TO's.  

    Brady couldn't lose in those early years given the defensive support.  Comparatively, 05-current that same support hasn't been there.  That said, Brady's been better, has won 2 MVP's, was required to lead the team more than in the winning years, ran offenses that ranked in the top 10 since 05 but did not produce those kinds of results in playoff losses.  

    In other words, yes, the defense was not as good, BUT Brady hasn't lived up to his end of the deal in playoff losses.  EG - the defense gave up 8 more points than its avg to Baltimore in the playoffs.  the offense however, produced 22 points less than its avg in the same game.  That's on Brady.

     




    But of course you take the facts and spin like the Fetus Head loving troll you are.

     

    Dropped passes, receivers who couldn't get open, poor running and poor blocking all made it impossible for Brady to do much better than he did. Just zip it and learn to live with the fact that Brady is clearly better than your "harmless college prank hero", troll.

     

     



    Facts are facts old man.  the offense produced substantially less than the defense vs. Baltimore.  That's not spin. 

     

    The spinning is you trying to bring up negative plays of others, but not Brady, who had his share.  That is the very definition of spin, ineffective poorly conceived spin, but spin nonetheless. 

     




    Taking up Rusty's age slamming remarks because you are getting pulverized on the facts I see. How pathetic of you Dolts troll. Do you mock people because they're black too?

     

    Facts are facts troll. And the facts are the rest of Brady's offense dropped passes, couldn't get separation, couldn't block and couldn't run.

    Nobody is nominating Brady for a medal in that game, but any objective fan can see he had little to nothing to work with.

     



    I see, just as you treat brady you treat others.  You want to name call but you don't expect the same in return.  That the logic is lost on you is not surprising.  I don't care how many times you tell yourself and the board that you think you've won some kind of argument over me, I have no control over your delusions or anyone elses. 

    I agree that facts are facts.  EG in the ravens playoff game your Brady led offense was substantially worse than the pats defense vs. their Regular season avgs.  Nor can we change the fact that you assign blame for this on every other part of the offense except for Brady, who deserves more than his share of the blame. 

    Keep on deluding yourself Babe, if that's what keeps you going.

     
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    Another day, another mass bludgeoning of trolls.




    Or another Alzheimer's episode. 

     
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    Earlier in Brady's successful career it was always about Brady doing more with less.  That was the legend. 

     

     




     

    More lies and nonsense from the Dolts troll.

    Obviously Brady has been much more productive in his later career than his early career. So what you say makes no sense, as usual.

    The legend was that Brady was clutch and Fetus Head was a choker. Of course that was actually before Fetus Head threw a pick six to lose a SB.

    But when YOUR agenda is 100% consumed with making Fetus Head out to be the greatest ever, no lie is left unturned by you in that endeavor.

    Now go brush up on your "harmless college pranks". Maybe you can do better with that than your hero did and not have a judge decree you as a liar.

     



    There's that legend too, but when you peel back the onion, you see that the legend depended on a lot of things most other QB's never had.  That's not to say that Brady hasn't had some great moments.  There's no doubt about that.  But he's given credit absent his kicker and defense, and now that his defense is like most others and he can't produce, we see who he really is,  Cue Denny Green.

     

     




    And as I have bludgeoned you repeatedly on troll, the Colts D was was actually better around 40% of the seasons while Manning was up against Brady. So much for your troll work.

     

    And the "Vinatieri" won them for Brady" troll line is absurd. Did Fetus Head set up Vinatieri for a winning SB kick in the 5 years he played with him troll?

    Troll whipped with facts and sent packing with his tail between his legs again.

     

     

     

    Bludgeoned in your own mind, never in reality. 

     

     

     


    Let's take a vote on that one troll.

     

    Face it. Your Fetus Head has dismal playoff numbers outside the "barely got in" wildcard teams. He has 19 TDs and 15 INTs outside the wildcard games. Meanwhile Brady has 35 TDs and 19 INTs in the same. Or Brady has 16 more TDs and only 4 more INTs.

    Brady crushes Fetus Head for numbers in the biggest games. The defenses had little to do with it. Troll loses again.

     

     



    of course, a vote - why?  because you can't stand on your own and you know it.  You can't effectively defend your QB anymore so you call for a vote.  Pathetic. 

     

    I don't have time for the Manning debate at this time, but to get things started for the future lets look at this year vs. a common opponent in the playoffs.  Manning 3 TD's, Brady 1.  I can go on, but as I said, I'll leave it for some future time.

     



     No need for you to have time to debate fetus heads playoff records to brady's. The fact he has 8 one and outs and has thrown 2 of the biggest INt's in recent playoff history is enough to put that debate to rest.

     


    If that's what you'd like to believe. 

     

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