Re: Cassel In - Mallett Out?
posted at 12/26/2012 12:10 PM EST
In response to RockScully's comment:
In response to Hetchinspete's comment:
Keep in mind, Mallett was a 1st rd projected pick. The only reason why his stock dropped was because of immaturity issues.
I am telling you right now, people around this league see a BB coached player and it's a wanted commodity, without question. Look at how many times BB cuts a player here, as poor as they might be here, and other teams quickly take flyer on the player. It happens more than other team in this league. Absolute truth. I'd even bet money the main reason was drafted was to deal him 2-3 years later, with no real intent on turning the keys to him, barring a Brady injury in that time.
I'd rather acquire Mallett for example than waste a 1st rder on Matt Barkley, for example. You have to understand the market.
It's amazing to me how fans like you don't see the forest for the trees and completely miss the point. You just did it twice in each of your responses. It's amazing how shortsighted people like you are.
Your asking folks to understand the market but your concept of wasting a 3rd round draft choice on a young player only to hold on a trade him a few years later while he rides the bench as Brady's back up makes little sense either. Mallet's value if anything has probably bottomed out because he warms the bench with no chance to let other GMs see what he can do. If anything the Pats will only get a lower draft choice for him now.
With the need for players on defense in the past few years why would BB waste a valuable 3rd round pick on a player only to have him sit on the bench and wait to be traded a few years later. There is litlle if any logic to your argument.
Not really. All it does is show how BB can control drafts. Also, keep in mind Mallett came out of a draft where BB had extra picks in the top 2 or 3 rounds. So, it's like an embarrassment of riches to begin with.
If BB is adding picks into rounds in every draft, he's doubling his odds that he hits.
I've explained this concept before, but that's what he likes to do and it's really hard to argue with the results. He knows it's a QB driven league and he knows it's hard to find a QB, so if they groom one and don't waste a top rd pick on it, the return could be as high as 2nd rder. I repeat, Mallett was meant to go in the 1st rd that year. Before the draft there were some stories about him partying and then showing up late to a visit with the Panthers.
We all know what it means for BB to go into a draft with multiple top rd picks. There is no logic to this?
Really? It's just some wild mistake BB keeps repeating? Sure about that? I could see if BB didn't have extra picks in the draft he took Mallett in and whiffed on his other picks, but that's not the case at all.
It's comical to me how people challenge me, don't really do homework or think things through, and then look dumb at the end.
Here is BB's 2011 draft:
1st Round âÂÂ Nate Solder, OT, Colorado
2nd Round âÂÂ Ras-I Dowling, DB, Virginia
2nd Round âÂÂ Shane Vereen, RB, Cal
3rd Round âÂÂ Stevan Ridley, RB, LSU
3rd Round âÂÂ Ryan Mallett, QB, Arkansas
5th Round âÂÂ Marcus Cannon, OL, TCU
5th Round âÂÂ Lee Smith, TE, Marshall
6th Round âÂÂ Markell Carter, OLB, Central Arkansas
7th Round âÂÂ Malcolm Williams, CB, Marshall
Solder, Vereen, Ridley and Cannon are all hits to various degrees. If he gets a 2nd rder back for a guy they don't need if the goal is to have Brady until he's 39, maybe 40, going into a 2013 draft for example with an additional pick, means the whole thing was a waste? That makes no sense. It's only NOT a waste, it's more genius from BB and again another reason why other fanbases are jealous.
That's like saying BB dealing Cassel away was a bad idea, turning a 7th rd pick into a high 2nd rder 4 years later because Cassel "held a clipboard".
Teams want QBs, especially ones being tutored in NE. BB knows this.
You're full of yourself. When Mallets gone, most likely cut or traded for a lower draft pick I'll remember your backward logic. As far as people challenging you, it's a free board and we are all free to say what we want when we disagree with your logic. I didn't exactly see teams lining up to take on Hoyer when he was released !!