Cause for Optimism

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    Re: Cause for Optimism

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    pulling up old threads is fair... Its interesting to read how stuff changes over time.

    glad to see a positive thread. There was a lot of good to take out of that game . D was improved  and Brady played great to win the game with complements from the D.
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    I always cringe when I start reading an old thread wondering what I may have posted, lol.

    The Patriots finally won a close game, I'm wicked optimistic.

     
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    why does every thread have to be ruined by babe and his army of trolls....obviously the secondary has stunk, but so has the offense in the clutch, the offense has been as bad as the defense in the 4th quarters of games, if not worse....anyone can see that.

     
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    why does every thread have to be ruined by babe and his army of trolls....obviously the secondary has stunk, but so has the offense in the clutch, the offense has been as bad as the defense in the 4th quarters of games, if not worse....anyone can see that.


    Babe loves to talk about the endgame...except when it pertains to the offense.

     
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    Re: Cause for Optimism

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    #1 in the division, Tom Brady at QB, BB as head coach ... what more do you need?

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    eli and coughlin  :  )

    sorry, too easy

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    You forgot one more component.

     

    A drop by Welker of Samuel  :  )

     
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    "why does every thread have to be ruined by babe and his army of trolls....obviously the secondary has stunk, but so has the offense in the clutch, the offense has been as bad as the defense in the 4th quarters of games, if not worse....anyone can see that."

    I would say why are threads continuing to be ruined by Rusty's troll army even through he isn't here anymore? 

    Yes Babe sometimes underestimates our offensive struggles in the fourth quarter. In case you didn't notice, our two minute offense looks fairly ok, it's our four minute offense (ability to run clock out) that really needs work. 

    Here's the difference: on offense we have the talent, just need to get it together and perhaps get a couple talented guys healthier. On the secondary it's not clear we have the talent, that's why the defense is more worrisome. 

    There's no question that the offense was better than the defense in the fourth quarter of the Jets game - if you coudln't see that I'll send you some game tape. We had a game tying and game winning drive after our defense gave up the lead.. Kind of settles that argument at least for that game.

    That said there is still time in the AFC for us to pull this together and make a run.

     
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    Re: Cause for Optimism

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    In response to redsoxfan94's comment:

    why does every thread have to be ruined by babe and his army of trolls....obviously the secondary has stunk, but so has the offense in the clutch, the offense has been as bad as the defense in the 4th quarters of games, if not worse....anyone can see that.



    Babe loves to talk about the endgame...except when it pertains to the offense.

     

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    I love to talk about that. 10 point leads going into the 4th quarter with the O chipping in 3 more; and the D can't cope. Let's talk about it. That was the situation in both the Seahawks and jets games.

     

    So to lose the lead in that scenario you have to allow 13 points in the 4th quarter. That's a 52 ppg rate. It doesn't get any more pathetic than that in the NFL buster.


    What possible problem with the offense could you even dare to mention in light of that abysmal testament of this defense?

     

     
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    Re: Cause for Optimism

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    In response to digger0862's comment:
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    In response to redsoxfan94's comment:

    why does every thread have to be ruined by babe and his army of trolls....obviously the secondary has stunk, but so has the offense in the clutch, the offense has been as bad as the defense in the 4th quarters of games, if not worse....anyone can see that.



    Babe loves to talk about the endgame...except when it pertains to the offense.

     

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    I love to talk about that. 10 point leads going into the 4th quarter with the O chipping in 3 more; and the D can't cope. Let's talk about it. That was the situation in both the Seahawks and jets games.

     

    So to lose the lead in that scenario you have to allow 13 points in the 4th quarter. That's a 52 ppg rate. It doesn't get any more pathetic than that in the NFL buster.


    What possible problem with the offense could you even dare to mention in light of that abysmal testament of this defense?

     

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    Babe,

     

    I appreciate your turn towards discussion and less inflamatory rhetoric. But on this point you are being short sighted. While the O is clearly elite and the D as a whole is not (pass rush is weak overall and pass coverage is very weak) the evaluation of one does not change the validity of evaluating - or even the legitimacy of evaluating - the other.

    In the case of the O it had been truly bad in the 4th quarter (crunch time if you will) over the span of the last two playoff games and the three loses this year to date. Perhaps that is already being turned around with the last 90 second drive in regulation and the drive to start OT in the game v the Jets. So perhaps going forward this will be moot. But up to those drives it was absolutely legitimate to be ctritical of the O when the game was on the line.

    Lets hope that this is already becoming an issue of the past and that with the emergence of a running game this O will be able to operate v any oponent, in any sort of weather and at any time of a game including when the game is on the line.

    Continue to keep it interesting - not demogogic.

     

     
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    Re: Cause for Optimism

    It's hard to look at the win last week as optimistic, when they again gave up another lead in the fourth on conescutive scoring drives to a pretty weak team.

    Rams this week are going to push the Pats' ability to protect Brady.

     
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