posted at 10/23/2012 3:21 AM EDT

- bredbru
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flacco 117 vs 77.9
fitz 81 vs 87
peyton 115 vs 102
russel wilson 133 vs 69
sanchez 90 vs 70
guess which one is against us and which is the rest of their games.
patricia in response to what specifically is difficult at this point with coaching up with the defense,
pressed several times continued ot talk in generalities and in circles, leaving those present to believe that either he doesnt know and isnt actually running the defense; or if he is, he is at just as much a loss as anyone else to figure it out.
bb said he was actually happy we had no 50 yard plays given up and that they had to earn it with 6 20 yard plays (that's how bad it is when bb is happy for several 20 yarders instead of the 50 yarders.
39 plays of 20 yards or more given up leads the league.
sanchexZwho struggled and hit 50% againSt the league, was 70% against us
FOR 328 YARDS!!!!!......
posted at 10/23/2012 3:26 AM EDT

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Ouch! Thanks for that info but ouch! I wish they would play more man, the zone defense leaves guys wide open too often, sometimes there isn't a defender in sight.
posted at 10/23/2012 3:26 AM EDT

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Ouch! Thanks for that info but ouch! I wish they would play more man, the zone defense leaves guys wide open too often, sometimes there isn't a defender in sight.
posted at 10/23/2012 3:26 AM EDT

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Ouch! Thanks for that info but ouch! I wish they would play more man, the zone defense leaves guys wide open too often, sometimes there isn't a defender in sight.
posted at 10/23/2012 3:36 AM EDT

- yakv
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What Can You Say
cant get any worse , it strated last season and this season is not different at all ,
if you also take into account all the PI calls , no team wil use the run against us
just throw it deap and get a huge play or PI .
posted at 10/23/2012 3:36 AM EDT

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cant get any worse , it strated last season and this season is not different at all ,
if you also take into account all the PI calls , no team wil use the run against us
just throw it deap and get a huge play or PI .
posted at 10/23/2012 3:37 AM EDT

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What Can You Say
cant get any worse , it strated last season and this season is not different at all ,
if you also take into account all the PI calls , no team wil use the run against us
just throw it deap and get a huge play or PI .
posted at 10/23/2012 5:46 AM EDT
You really think Patricia is going to tell the media exactly what the problem is and exactly what he's going to do to fix it? Of course he talks in generalities. He works for Bill Belichick, the master at not providing any concrete information about what the team is planning to do.
Plus his answer was probably completely accurate. The only way they're going to get better is if the players play better. This isn't a scheme problem, it's a talent problem. The key right now is Tavon Wilson . . . if he can grow into a decent safety, that will help big time. Right now our safety play is even worse than our corner play. The good news is that we have some young players who could develop with some time, so that's what we have to hope for. They aren't going to pick up a good safety midseason unfortunately.
posted at 10/23/2012 5:46 AM EDT
You really think Patricia is going to tell the media exactly what the problem is and exactly what he's going to do to fix it? Of course he talks in generalities. He works for Bill Belichick, the master at not providing any concrete information about what the team is planning to do.
Plus his answer was probably completely accurate. The only way they're going to get better is if the players play better. This isn't a scheme problem, it's a talent problem. The key right now is Tavon Wilson . . . if he can grow into a decent safety, that will help big time. Right now our safety play is even worse than our corner play. The good news is that we have some young players who could develop with some time, so that's what we have to hope for. They aren't going to pick up a good safety midseason unfortunately.
posted at 10/23/2012 9:07 AM EDT

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I feel we have some good things going on at times but its the end game where we are failing mostly.
I really feel like Kyle Arrington is the weak link. I never thought he was great but he def. regressed from last year and every completion on him he isnt even in the picture. They need to bench him outright. Ras is not worst than that. Dennard is playing and Moore is better so no need to see Kyle for a while if you ask me. He is killing this defens with his lack of one on one cover skills. If he play zone he is ok, but its bad this year...
It can only get better. Keep # 32 at Safety and blitz some more..
posted at 10/23/2012 9:08 AM EDT

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I think its time B.B. made a move or stop speakingin tongues and give us a real answer why he cant seem to field a competent secondary for a few years now..
posted at 10/23/2012 9:22 AM EDT
In response to TripleOG's comment:
I think its time B.B. made a move or stop speakingin tongues and give us a real answer why he cant seem to field a competent secondary for a few years now..
That's between him and Kraft.
posted at 10/23/2012 9:22 AM EDT
In response to TripleOG's comment:
I think its time B.B. made a move or stop speakingin tongues and give us a real answer why he cant seem to field a competent secondary for a few years now..
That's between him and Kraft.
posted at 10/23/2012 9:39 AM EDT

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I agree with BB... with MCC at safety the d was an improved unit overall.
NO DEEP THROWS . That's big right there. A couple break downs, but most of the 20 yarders were Sanchez making the perfect throw dropping it in there.
the guy was a first round pick. He can throw . He's had good games against pats before . He was too comfortable most of the night.
Keller killed them ( like they hadn't seen that before?) until they put ebner on him at the end. That move worked...
obviously room for improvements , but you need to open your eyes to progress and stop crying about stats. They tell only part of the story.
posted at 10/23/2012 9:39 AM EDT

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I agree with BB... with MCC at safety the d was an improved unit overall.
NO DEEP THROWS . That's big right there. A couple break downs, but most of the 20 yarders were Sanchez making the perfect throw dropping it in there.
the guy was a first round pick. He can throw . He's had good games against pats before . He was too comfortable most of the night.
Keller killed them ( like they hadn't seen that before?) until they put ebner on him at the end. That move worked...
obviously room for improvements , but you need to open your eyes to progress and stop crying about stats. They tell only part of the story.
posted at 10/23/2012 9:40 AM EDT

- coolade2
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I agree with BB... with MCC at safety the d was an improved unit overall.
NO DEEP THROWS . That's big right there. A couple break downs, but most of the 20 yarders were Sanchez making the perfect throw dropping it in there.
the guy was a first round pick. He can throw . He's had good games against pats before . He was too comfortable most of the night.
Keller killed them ( like they hadn't seen that before?) until they put ebner on him at the end. That move worked...
obviously room for improvements , but you need to open your eyes to progress and stop crying about stats. They tell only part of the story.
posted at 10/23/2012 9:40 AM EDT

- coolade2
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I agree with BB... with MCC at safety the d was an improved unit overall.
NO DEEP THROWS . That's big right there. A couple break downs, but most of the 20 yarders were Sanchez making the perfect throw dropping it in there.
the guy was a first round pick. He can throw . He's had good games against pats before . He was too comfortable most of the night.
Keller killed them ( like they hadn't seen that before?) until they put ebner on him at the end. That move worked...
obviously room for improvements , but you need to open your eyes to progress and stop crying about stats. They tell only part of the story.
posted at 10/23/2012 9:40 AM EDT

- coolade2
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I agree with BB... with MCC at safety the d was an improved unit overall.
NO DEEP THROWS . That's big right there. A couple break downs, but most of the 20 yarders were Sanchez making the perfect throw dropping it in there.
the guy was a first round pick. He can throw . He's had good games against pats before . He was too comfortable most of the night.
Keller killed them ( like they hadn't seen that before?) until they put ebner on him at the end. That move worked...
obviously room for improvements , but you need to open your eyes to progress and stop crying about stats. They tell only part of the story.
posted at 10/23/2012 9:41 AM EDT

- coolade2
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I agree with BB... with MCC at safety the d was an improved unit overall.
NO DEEP THROWS . That's big right there. A couple break downs, but most of the 20 yarders were Sanchez making the perfect throw dropping it in there.
the guy was a first round pick. He can throw . He's had good games against pats before . He was too comfortable most of the night.
Keller killed them ( like they hadn't seen that before?) until they put ebner on him at the end. That move worked...
obviously room for improvements , but you need to open your eyes to progress and stop crying about stats. They tell only part of the story.
posted at 10/23/2012 9:42 AM EDT

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I agree with BB... with MCC at safety the d was an improved unit overall.
NO DEEP THROWS . That's big right there. A couple break downs, but most of the 20 yarders were Sanchez making the perfect throw dropping it in there.
the guy was a first round pick. He can throw . He's had good games against pats before . He was too comfortable most of the night.
Keller killed them ( like they hadn't seen that before?) until they put ebner on him at the end. That move worked...
obviously room for improvements , but you need to open your eyes to progress and stop crying about stats. They tell only part of the story.
posted at 10/23/2012 9:44 AM EDT

- coolade2
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I agree with BB... with MCC at safety the d was an improved unit overall.
NO DEEP THROWS . That's big right there. A couple break downs, but most of the 20 yarders were Sanchez making the perfect throw dropping it in there.
the guy was a first round pick. He can throw . He's had good games against pats before . He was too comfortable most of the night.
Keller killed them ( like they hadn't seen that before?) until they put ebner on him at the end. That move worked...
obviously room for improvements , but you need to open your eyes to progress and stop crying about stats. They tell only part of the story.
posted at 10/23/2012 9:46 AM EDT

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In response to coolade2's comment:
I agree with BB... with MCC at safety the d was an improved unit overall.
NO DEEP THROWS . That's big right there. A couple break downs, but most of the 20 yarders were Sanchez making the perfect throw dropping it in there.
the guy was a first round pick. He can throw . He's had good games against pats before . He was too comfortable most of the night.
Keller killed them ( like they hadn't seen that before?) until they put ebner on him at the end. That move worked...
obviously room for improvements , but you need to open your eyes to progress and stop crying about stats. They tell only part of the story.
when Ebner came in the Jet's were lining up keller in the slot and it was obvious Ebner's only job was to jam him the entire 5 yards. Keller never got another free release after Ebner was put in.
posted at 10/23/2012 9:47 AM EDT

- jri37
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In response to coolade2's comment:
I agree with BB... with MCC at safety the d was an improved unit overall.
NO DEEP THROWS . That's big right there. A couple break downs, but most of the 20 yarders were Sanchez making the perfect throw dropping it in there.
the guy was a first round pick. He can throw . He's had good games against pats before . He was too comfortable most of the night.
Keller killed them ( like they hadn't seen that before?) until they put ebner on him at the end. That move worked...
obviously room for improvements , but you need to open your eyes to progress and stop crying about stats. They tell only part of the story.
when Ebner came in the Jet's were lining up keller in the slot and it was obvious Ebner's only job was to jam him the entire 5 yards. Keller never got another free release after Ebner was put in.
posted at 10/23/2012 9:50 AM EDT

- jri37
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In response to coolade2's comment:
I agree with BB... with MCC at safety the d was an improved unit overall.
NO DEEP THROWS . That's big right there. A couple break downs, but most of the 20 yarders were Sanchez making the perfect throw dropping it in there.
the guy was a first round pick. He can throw . He's had good games against pats before . He was too comfortable most of the night.
Keller killed them ( like they hadn't seen that before?) until they put ebner on him at the end. That move worked...
obviously room for improvements , but you need to open your eyes to progress and stop crying about stats. They tell only part of the story.
when Ebner came in the Jet's were lining up keller in the slot and it was obvious Ebner's only job was to jam him the entire 5 yards. Keller never got another free release after Ebner was put in.
posted at 10/23/2012 9:58 AM EDT

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thnks jr, I never noticed that..I'll have to go back n look