Chip Kelly should sign Tebow to back up Vick

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    Chip Kelly should sign Tebow to back up Vick

    Is this a no-brainer...?  Lefty running QB , could hand off to McCoy, throw a few bombs.  Mostly he's more durable.  He could even play the second half after vick builds a lead.

    If this doesn't happen I will be surprised.

     
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    Re: Chip Kelly should sign Tebow to back up Vick

    Even in Kelly's O you still need the threat of passing. If Jax doesn't want Tebow (the one team who not only doesn't have a starting QB but could benefit from Tebow extra ticket sales) then he is not going to be a QB in this league. 

    Is Tebow the new Moss on this board? We are going to consistently try to find ways to bring him back or fit him on another team for the next 5 years?


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    Re: Chip Kelly should sign Tebow to back up Vick

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    Even in Kelly's O you still need the threat of passing. If Jax doesn't want Tebow (the one team who not only doesn't have a starting QB but could benefit from Tebow extra ticket sales) then he is not going to be a QB in this league. 

    Is Tebow the new Moss on this board? We are going to consistently try to find ways to bring him back or fit him on another team for the next 5 years?


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    Disagree...  Tebow is a backup.  You don't need a starting caliber thrower to be a backup.

    Backup should be someone reliable, rugged, get you through the emergency situation in a game.  Run the read option , hit the open guy, limit mistakes, win the game.  As Kerry Byrne pointed out, tebow running the read option at Denver was a winner for exactly those reasons.  Not spectacular, just don't lose the game.

    Tebow would be the PERFECT backup QB.

    And yes, when he gets signed you can expect another thread, or better yet I'll bump this one...lol. 

     

     
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    Re: Chip Kelly should sign Tebow to back up Vick

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    Is this a no-brainer...?  Lefty running QB , could hand off to McCoy, throw a few bombs.  Mostly he's more durable.  He could even play the second half after vick builds a lead.

    If this doesn't happen I will be surprised.



    You know coolade I never thought about that but I think your right. I think he'd be a good fit in that offense. Good call. 

     
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    Re: Chip Kelly should sign Tebow to back up Vick

    Makes sense to me. People say that he can't be a backup for other teams because they would need to change their offense for him, but wouldn't the Eagles need to change their offense for Barkely and Foles?

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    Re: Chip Kelly should sign Tebow to back up Vick

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    Even in Kelly's O you still need the threat of passing. If Jax doesn't want Tebow (the one team who not only doesn't have a starting QB but could benefit from Tebow extra ticket sales) then he is not going to be a QB in this league. 

    Is Tebow the new Moss on this board? We are going to consistently try to find ways to bring him back or fit him on another team for the next 5 years?


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    Sure, Tebow may not be the best passer in the world - but maybe he can make that one or two completions during parts of the games to be a play maker. We know his strength is running. We know that he gets his share of INTs and that he gets sacked for big yards once in a while. But, with Denver, he did have an uncanny way of being a playmaker that helped win some games (not saying Tebow was the only reason why Denver won those games).

     
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    Re: Chip Kelly should sign Tebow to back up Vick

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    Makes sense to me. People say that he can't be a backup for other teams because they would need to change their offense for him, but wouldn't the Eagles need to change their offense for Barkely and Foles?

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    Answer, yes.  And you're right, all the criticism after eagles blew out Washington was about "sustainability" and the " drop off" when you inevitably lose Vick or McCoy...  nick files and Barkley are not runners.  it  seems they are there to run the regular offense if the Oregon offense doesn't work .

    seems to me that a read option backup AND a conventional backup like foles would be the best setup as long as you want 3 QBs and you don't mind a little tebow media...which incidentally is not like it was in new York or Denver anymore.  

     
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    Re: Chip Kelly should sign Tebow to back up Vick

    Surprisingly, that would work for that team, take some of the heat of Vick and reduce the number of hits he would be taking leading that offense.

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    Re: Chip Kelly should sign Tebow to back up Vick

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    Surprisingly, that would work for that team, take some of the heat of Vick and reduce the number of hits he would be taking leading that offense.

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    Agree...  And in the situation when you KNOW the defense is gassed...  In trots a fresh Tebow to run it down their throats... !  That to me would be the last thing you would want to see as a defender.  First run around chasing Vick and McCoy, then have a 6-3" bruiser come at you with a head of steam...  Lol.

     
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    Re: Chip Kelly should sign Tebow to back up Vick

    I don't think Kelly's offense is dependent on QB mobility as much as it is on precision. Vick isn't a perfect QB for the system, but he's better than Tebow. He'll design some plays based on Vick's speed and skills, but that offense would run just fine, better actually, with Tom Brady because he's precise, decisive and fast (acting, not running). Manning too. Heck it isn't much different from what the Pats do.

    Why would he want a backup that can't throw? His backup is very likely going to play at some point. Might even play more than Vick by the end of the year based on track record. Foles will be more effective than Tebow because he can throw.

     

     
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    Re: Chip Kelly should sign Tebow to back up Vick

    Obviously TT is a more valid option than a number of proven suckball guys hauling in a paycheck from the NFL at the moment.

     
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    Re: Chip Kelly should sign Tebow to back up Vick

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    Re: Chip Kelly should sign Tebow to back up Vick

    Tebow is terrible, the sooner you accept that, the better you'll feel about it.  He has no future in pro football, not as a back up or at any other position.  It's over, get over it, move on.

     
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    Re: Chip Kelly should sign Tebow to back up Vick

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    Tebow is terrible, the sooner you accept that, the better you'll feel about it.  He has no future in pro football, not as a back up or at any other position.  It's over, get over it, move on.



    More importantly, why is there an "Eagles should sign Tebow" thread on the Pats' board? Tebow doesn't warrant a thread, he was a camp body, he wasn't ever a Patriot. 

     
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    Re: Chip Kelly should sign Tebow to back up Vick

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    Obviously TT is a more valid option than a number of proven suckball guys hauling in a paycheck from the NFL at the moment.



    Obviously that's why no team has signed him including the CFL

     
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    Re: Chip Kelly should sign Tebow to back up Vick

    Not sure what this thread has to do with jets...  They have lots of problems starting with head clown rex Ryan. 

    Is this rexs final, last chance, desperation, hail Mary attempt at being a legit head coach ...?

    If he loses ( again.... ) is it over ?  Finally...? Stick a fork in it...over?   fire the chubster, we've heard it all we've heard enough, just kill it now before it procreates,  over...? 

    This just in...  It should be.  As in long overdue.  NYs  love affair  with the Rex is comical.  Hahahaha...  Please don't fire him... . Lol. 

     

     
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    Re: Chip Kelly should sign Tebow to back up Vick

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    I don't think Kelly's offense is dependent on QB mobility as much as it is on precision. Vick isn't a perfect QB for the system, but he's better than Tebow. He'll design some plays based on Vick's speed and skills, but that offense would run just fine, better actually, with Tom Brady because he's precise, decisive and fast (acting, not running). Manning too. Heck it isn't much different from what the Pats do.

    Why would he want a backup that can't throw? His backup is very likely going to play at some point. Might even play more than Vick by the end of the year based on track record. Foles will be more effective than Tebow because he can throw.

     




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    Re: Chip Kelly should sign Tebow to back up Vick

    I continue to see a small chance that BB will re-sign Tebow for two reasons. 

    Maybe Tebow isn't useful in the warm weather months but in the cold months when running is vital, he's your runner.  Didn't the Patriots play a game with Buffalo in 60 mph wind gusts one December?  On third and 1 going into the teeth of the wind, or if the Pats are up by 21, put Tebow in. 

    The other possibility depends on Tom Brady busting his buns.  Mallett isn't that much better than Tebow, especially on obvious running plays.  Mallett throws pretty well but he can't even run as well as Brady, much less as well as Kaepernick.  Keep switching Tebow and Mallett all day in subpackages to drive defenses nuts.  BB has already shown his willingness to flip back and forth between two or three running backs with differing styles, between Ridley, the 250 lb Blount and the smaller, faster Vereen, for example.  Why not try this same strategy at quarterback?

    BB and the front office can assume that nobody else wants to give Tebow a try because he didn't practice all summer with anybody else's team, so he can't really step in anywhere else.  Also, he's kind of a sub-marginal #1 dropback quarterback.  Better pure passers are sitting by the phone right now, and they'll get the calls.

    So, the Tebow stays in shape, sits at home and maybe he calls up Josh McDaniels for a little chat every two weeks. 

     
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    Re: Chip Kelly should sign Tebow to back up Vick

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    I continue to see a small chance that BB will re-sign Tebow for two reasons. 

    Maybe Tebow isn't useful in the warm weather months but in the cold months when running is vital, he's your runner.  Didn't the Patriots play a game with Buffalo in 60 mph wind gusts one December?  On third and 1 going into the teeth of the wind, or if the Pats are up by 21, put Tebow in. 

    The other possibility depends on Tom Brady busting his buns.  Mallett isn't that much better than Tebow, especially on obvious running plays.  Mallett throws pretty well but he can't even run as well as Brady, much less as well as Kaepernick.  Keep switching Tebow and Mallett all day in subpackages to drive defenses nuts.  BB has already shown his willingness to flip back and forth between two or three running backs with differing styles, between Ridley, the 250 lb Blount and the smaller, faster Vereen, for example.  Why not try this same strategy at quarterback?

    BB and the front office can assume that nobody else wants to give Tebow a try because he didn't practice all summer with anybody else's team, so he can't really step in anywhere else.  Also, he's kind of a sub-marginal #1 dropback quarterback.  Better pure passers are sitting by the phone right now, and they'll get the calls.

    So, the Tebow stays in shape, sits at home and maybe he calls up Josh McDaniels for a little chat every two weeks. 




    1.) BB has 6 RBs on the roster, he wont sign Tebow to run the ball when he has 6 people who's job it is to run the ball.

    2.) The playoffs and SB are in cold weather, does BB then play Tebow instead of Brady?

     

     

     

     
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    Re: Chip Kelly should sign Tebow to back up Vick

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    I don't think Kelly's offense is dependent on QB mobility as much as it is on precision. Vick isn't a perfect QB for the system, but he's better than Tebow. He'll design some plays based on Vick's speed and skills, but that offense would run just fine, better actually, with Tom Brady because he's precise, decisive and fast (acting, not running). Manning too. Heck it isn't much different from what the Pats do.

    Why would he want a backup that can't throw? His backup is very likely going to play at some point. Might even play more than Vick by the end of the year based on track record. Foles will be more effective than Tebow because he can throw.

     

     




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    I don't think Kelly's offense is dependent on QB mobility as much as it is on precision. Vick isn't a perfect QB for the system, but he's better than Tebow. He'll design some plays based on Vick's speed and skills, but that offense would run just fine, better actually, with Tom Brady because he's precise, decisive and fast (acting, not running). Manning too. Heck it isn't much different from what the Pats do.

    Why would he want a backup that can't throw? His backup is very likely going to play at some point. Might even play more than Vick by the end of the year based on track record. Foles will be more effective than Tebow because he can throw.

     

     

     




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    Did you watch vick run the read option and score on a 5 yard  run?  Did you see McCoy gain 190 yards running the read option partly because of the threat of Vick running?

    It is very much a part of the offense.  tebow ran the read option at Denver and won games...  that is the tie-in, and the reason for the thread.

     
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    Re: Chip Kelly should sign Tebow to back up Vick

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    I continue to see a small chance that BB will re-sign Tebow for two reasons. 

    Maybe Tebow isn't useful in the warm weather months but in the cold months when running is vital, he's your runner.  Didn't the Patriots play a game with Buffalo in 60 mph wind gusts one December?  On third and 1 going into the teeth of the wind, or if the Pats are up by 21, put Tebow in. 

    The other possibility depends on Tom Brady busting his buns.  Mallett isn't that much better than Tebow, especially on obvious running plays.  Mallett throws pretty well but he can't even run as well as Brady, much less as well as Kaepernick.  Keep switching Tebow and Mallett all day in subpackages to drive defenses nuts.  BB has already shown his willingness to flip back and forth between two or three running backs with differing styles, between Ridley, the 250 lb Blount and the smaller, faster Vereen, for example.  Why not try this same strategy at quarterback?

    BB and the front office can assume that nobody else wants to give Tebow a try because he didn't practice all summer with anybody else's team, so he can't really step in anywhere else.  Also, he's kind of a sub-marginal #1 dropback quarterback.  Better pure passers are sitting by the phone right now, and they'll get the calls.

    So, the Tebow stays in shape, sits at home and maybe he calls up Josh McDaniels for a little chat every two weeks. 




    The tag-team QB system has been tried with the wildcat...  Brad smith had some success, Miami ran it with a running back at QB...! 

    Anyway, tebow could be used for running back depth and QB depth. And special teams but BB didn't use him this way in preseason.  Hard tellin' but with vereen out and Ridley fumbling, you're down to 4, really 3 unless you consider develin an option.

     

    I think Washington will get a lot of action in this game.

     
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    I don't think Kelly's offense is dependent on QB mobility as much as it is on precision. Vick isn't a perfect QB for the system, but he's better than Tebow. He'll design some plays based on Vick's speed and skills, but that offense would run just fine, better actually, with Tom Brady because he's precise, decisive and fast (acting, not running). Manning too. Heck it isn't much different from what the Pats do.

    Why would he want a backup that can't throw? His backup is very likely going to play at some point. Might even play more than Vick by the end of the year based on track record. Foles will be more effective than Tebow because he can throw.

     

     

     

     




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    Did you watch vick run the read option and score on a 5 yard  run?  Did you see McCoy gain 190 yards running the read option partly because of the threat of Vick running?

    It is very much a part of the offense.  tebow ran the read option at Denver and won games...  that is the tie-in, and the reason for the thread.

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    +3 (to counter coolaids -3) The thing that makes Vick effective is that they have to keep a spy on him while still playing the secondary creating holes for McCoy. If you have a QB who can't throw there is no reason for the extra DB and you can just commit to the run. Muz is right a QB who can throw with the threat to run is more effect in Chip's system than a running QB who sometimes misses the ground.

     
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    Re: Chip Kelly should sign Tebow to back up Vick

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    Obviously TT is a more valid option than a number of proven suckball guys hauling in a paycheck from the NFL at the moment.




    Tebow is a suckball QB

     
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    I don't think Kelly's offense is dependent on QB mobility as much as it is on precision. Vick isn't a perfect QB for the system, but he's better than Tebow. He'll design some plays based on Vick's speed and skills, but that offense would run just fine, better actually, with Tom Brady because he's precise, decisive and fast (acting, not running). Manning too. Heck it isn't much different from what the Pats do.

    Why would he want a backup that can't throw? His backup is very likely going to play at some point. Might even play more than Vick by the end of the year based on track record. Foles will be more effective than Tebow because he can throw.

     

     

     

     

     




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    Did you watch vick run the read option and score on a 5 yard  run?  Did you see McCoy gain 190 yards running the read option partly because of the threat of Vick running?

    It is very much a part of the offense.  tebow ran the read option at Denver and won games...  that is the tie-in, and the reason for the thread.

     

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    +3 (to counter coolaids -3) The thing that makes Vick effective is that they have to keep a spy on him while still playing the secondary creating holes for McCoy. If you have a QB who can't throw there is no reason for the extra DB and you can just commit to the run. Muz is right a QB who can throw with the threat to run is more effect in Chip's system than a running QB who sometimes misses the ground.

     

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