Chris Canty?

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    Chris Canty?

    The roster purge in New York continues as the GMen just cut Canty and Bradshaw.  Canty was injured last year, but has been effective when healthy.  Thoughts on trying to sign him to a short term incentive-laden deal?

     
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    The roster purge in New York continues as the GMen just cut Canty and Bradshaw.  Canty was injured last year, but has been effective when healthy.  Thoughts on trying to sign him to a short term incentive-laden deal?




    Pass.

    If the Giants thought he was still a key contributor and worth the value they'd keep him.  The stories in NY have Canty buried deep in paragraphs after the more surprising cut of Bradshaw.

     
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    Pass.

     

    If the Giants thought he was still a key contributor and worth the value they'd keep him.  The stories in NY have Canty buried deep in paragraphs after the more surprising cut of Bradshaw.



    Obviously they didn't think he was worth the 6.5 million dollar hit to their cap this year.  Doesn't mean he is worthless or that we would have to pay him nearly that much.

     
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    Pass.

     

     

    If the Giants thought he was still a key contributor and worth the value they'd keep him.  The stories in NY have Canty buried deep in paragraphs after the more surprising cut of Bradshaw.

     



    Obviously they didn't think he was worth the 6.5 million dollar hit to their cap this year.  Doesn't mean he is worthless or that we would have to pay him nearly that much.

     

     




    Correct.  To me he only looks good because of the guys on each side of him.  So, no improvement over Love/Deadrick IMO.

     

     
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    Correct.  To me he only looks good because of the guys on each side oh him.  So, no improvement over Love/Deadrick IMO.



    Ok fair enough.

     
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    Pass.

     

     

    If the Giants thought he was still a key contributor and worth the value they'd keep him.  The stories in NY have Canty buried deep in paragraphs after the more surprising cut of Bradshaw.

     



    Obviously they didn't think he was worth the 6.5 million dollar hit to their cap this year.  Doesn't mean he is worthless or that we would have to pay him nearly that much.

     

     




    Mt Hurl told us that it doesn't matter what you pay anyone in the cap era and that overpaying players in a market up against a 53 man roster is irrelevant. lmao

     

     

     



    Oh my God! The horror! In two days the Giants released three players that were old, injured and ineffective, saving fourteen million dollars. Fourteen million dollars in savings?? In two damn days?? Isn't the mean "salary cap hell" going to come looking for them for this? I hear if "salary cap hell" bites you, you turn into a zombie. I'm serious - then you get a high fever before slowly wondering the earth looking for food:(

     

    Poor Giants. I wonder what they are going to do with that 14 new and fresh million in cap space? Hey, maybe sign some more high quality, young players that they can use for the next 4-5 years and win another Super Bowl? 

     
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    Mt Hurl told us that it doesn't matter what you pay anyone in the cap era and that overpaying players in a market up against a 53 man roster is irrelevant. lmao

     



    Well, it doesn't matter as long as you're prepared to replace a bunch of key contributors. It's why there are only a handful of teams that contend year after year. The other way is to churn your roster and rely on your front office to find guys. Some have success doing that, like the Giants. Others not so much.  Also helps to have a franchise QB.

     
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    Mt Hurl told us that it doesn't matter what you pay anyone in the cap era and that overpaying players in a market up against a 53 man roster is irrelevant. lmao

     

     



    Well, it doesn't matter as long as you're prepared to replace a bunch of key contributors. It's why there are only a handful of teams that contend year after year. The other way is to churn your roster and rely on your front office to find guys. Some have success doing that, like the Giants. Others not so much.  Also helps to have a franchise QB.

     

     



    Agree. The Steelers and Giants missed the playoffs outright and BB's Pats don't, also having an elite QB.

     

    Imagine if a BB team with Brady went .500?  Sure looks like BB is better at backfilling in the pipeline.

     



    The Steeler's lost their starting quarterback for the last month of the season - most people that watch football were aware of this. As for the Giants...well they did just win the Super Bowl...maybe they just got bored? But they still finished over 500 - most people that watched football last year knew that too.

     

     
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    Here's a free lesson on these scary salary cap cuts....when you cut a guy four years into a five year contrat to save cap space, what you end up doing is ridding yourself of a player that has grown old and ineffective. The plus side to this is that you got to use them (which the Giants sure did) and dump them (which the giants sure did). They just cleared 14 million in cap space in two days by ridding themselves of players they don't even want anymore. Didn't you say that was impossible? I told you a team could clear millions in cap room over a weekend - you said no way...I was living in a dream world. Now here we have a well known, successful GM do it in two days. How does that happen, rusty? How?!

     
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    Mt Hurl told us that it doesn't matter what you pay anyone in the cap era and that overpaying players in a market up against a 53 man roster is irrelevant. lmao

     

     



    Well, it doesn't matter as long as you're prepared to replace a bunch of key contributors. It's why there are only a handful of teams that contend year after year. The other way is to churn your roster and rely on your front office to find guys. Some have success doing that, like the Giants. Others not so much.  Also helps to have a franchise QB.

     

     



    Agree. The Steelers and Giants missed the playoffs outright and BB's Pats don't, also having an elite QB.

     

    Imagine if a BB team with Brady went .500?  Sure looks like BB is better at backfilling in the pipeline.




    Maybe if Eli and BR were as good as Brady you would have a point dumbkoff. Learn the game.

     
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    Wow. The Giants, as suspected really are in trouble.   I figured they be cutting a lot of people, but so far, some pretty big names. It's a long way down.  Their new RB looks good, but any time you lose quality system depth that you counted on, it adds up.

     

     



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    Here's a free lesson on these scary salary cap cuts....when you cut a guy four years into a five year contrat to save cap space, what you end up doing is ridding yourself of a player that has grown old and ineffective. The plus side to this is that you got to use them (which the Giants sure did) and dump them (which the giants sure did). They just cleared 14 million in cap space in two days by ridding themselves of players they don't even want anymore. Didn't you say that was impossible? I told you a team could clear millions in cap room over a weekend - you said no way...I was living in a dream world. Now here we have a well known, successful GM do it in two days. How does that happen, rusty? How?!

     



    No, I didn't say anything was impossible. I said it has adverse affects on your roster afterwards, which it does, barring a team having replacements ready to be slam dunk starters immediately, which is beyond rare.

     

    Just like when everyone is asking RKarp what the moronic Jets are going to do if they cut 9 starters, what good is it? I'd be mortified if BB had to replace 9 starters.

    So, the Jets are going to have people on their roster to be better than the vets that they had starting last year? Really? Who would want to go there?  How do you know their crapy receent drafts have people waiting in the wings with no experience? The fact is, they don't and they won't have a lot of money to spend on FAs anyway.


    The fact you have to cut players before the contracts expired means you didn't pay them correctly to begin with and you're risking the status quo of your team in terms of quality.

    Apparently they overpaid those vets for a reason, none other than the idea they didn't have anyone to do the job from within in the first place.

    Not a hard concept, but it is for morons who bake cakes for 7th graders for a living, apparently.

    Just think if Brady wasn't bad last postseason or this year, the Giants and Ravens short term roll of the dice, backfires.

    Don't expecct the Giants or Ravens to be contending for a SB next year. These cuts your seeing right now are reasons why.

    This isna't the NBA, the NHL or MLB baseball where the rosters are smaller and you can interchange players easier.

    11 men on a side where continuity is vital.

     

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    So the giants over payed vets and didn't know what they were doing? Glad you cleared that up, maybe they can hire a well established GM that can build their team into something that can win a Super Bowl? Bawahahahaha!!!!!

    geez, apparently the Raven's GM doesn't know what he is doing either...what's his name again? Oh yeah, Ozzie Newsome! Boy that guy is an amature, someone needs to fire him and replace him with a guy that can build a team for Super Bowls. Lol!

     
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    Mt Hurl told us that it doesn't matter what you pay anyone in the cap era and that overpaying players in a market up against a 53 man roster is irrelevant. lmao

     

     



    Well, it doesn't matter as long as you're prepared to replace a bunch of key contributors. It's why there are only a handful of teams that contend year after year. The other way is to churn your roster and rely on your front office to find guys. Some have success doing that, like the Giants. Others not so much.  Also helps to have a franchise QB.

     

     



    Agree. The Steelers and Giants missed the playoffs outright and BB's Pats don't, also having an elite QB.

     

    Imagine if a BB team with Brady went .500?  Sure looks like BB is better at backfilling in the pipeline.



    looks like his team plays in crap division and a weaker conference to me  :  )

    and brady covereth a multitude of (drafting) sins  :  )

     
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    Mt Hurl told us that it doesn't matter what you pay anyone in the cap era and that overpaying players in a market up against a 53 man roster is irrelevant. lmao

     

     



    Well, it doesn't matter as long as you're prepared to replace a bunch of key contributors. It's why there are only a handful of teams that contend year after year. The other way is to churn your roster and rely on your front office to find guys. Some have success doing that, like the Giants. Others not so much.  Also helps to have a franchise QB.

     

     



    Agree. The Steelers and Giants missed the playoffs outright and BB's Pats don't, also having an elite QB.

     

    Imagine if a BB team with Brady went .500?  Sure looks like BB is better at backfilling in the pipeline.

     



    The Steeler's lost their starting quarterback for the last month of the season - most people that watch football were aware of this. As for the Giants...well they did just win the Super Bowl...maybe they just got bored? But they still finished over 500 - most people that watched football last year knew that too.

     

     



    Nice excuses. Cassel helped NE to an 11 win season in 2008.

     

    So now the Giants were "bored" defending their SB title that Brady served up? lol

    You're just a spin machine, aren't you?


    Gee, tell us why it was wise for the Giants to not be able to afford the contracts they offered players that they counted on just last year?

    Seems a little contradictory for them to think that they worth that money one year, and then just months later change their mind where they want to allocate that money, isn't it?

     

     



    queenie give it up...u just get in deeper with every silly "bb invented football/the cap is the be all and end all" post u type-jeez do u stretch and twist and spin...it's embarrassing especially for someone with a 152 IQ

     
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    Here's a free lesson on these scary salary cap cuts....when you cut a guy four years into a five year contrat to save cap space, what you end up doing is ridding yourself of a player that has grown old and ineffective. The plus side to this is that you got to use them (which the Giants sure did) and dump them (which the giants sure did). They just cleared 14 million in cap space in two days by ridding themselves of players they don't even want anymore. Didn't you say that was impossible? I told you a team could clear millions in cap room over a weekend - you said no way...I was living in a dream world. Now here we have a well known, successful GM do it in two days. How does that happen, rusty? How?!



    RUSTY OWNED AGAIN

     
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    Could it be that going in and out of salary cap hell and up and down with talent is a better way to win championships than being a steady and diligent cap manager? Does one approach produce Super Bowl winners and the other regular season wonders? Not sure, but maybe worth asking? Giants may very well miss the playoffs next year, but they won a Lombardi a year ago. If they win yet another before the Pats do, you have to ask the question whether a purge and rebuild strategy  is a better way of creating a true champion then steady cap management resulting in regular season triumph but not leading to a trophy. Just a thought.

     

     
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    Mt Hurl told us that it doesn't matter what you pay anyone in the cap era and that overpaying players in a market up against a 53 man roster is irrelevant. lmao

     

     



    Well, it doesn't matter as long as you're prepared to replace a bunch of key contributors. It's why there are only a handful of teams that contend year after year. The other way is to churn your roster and rely on your front office to find guys. Some have success doing that, like the Giants. Others not so much.  Also helps to have a franchise QB.

     

     



    Agree. The Steelers and Giants missed the playoffs outright and BB's Pats don't, also having an elite QB.

     

    Imagine if a BB team with Brady went .500?  Sure looks like BB is better at backfilling in the pipeline.

     




    Maybe if Eli and BR were as good as Brady you would have a point dumbkoff. Learn the game.

     

     



    In each's last SBs, they were better than Brady in his.  Simple fact.

     

     




    Simply nonsense junior.

    BR had 1 TD 1 INT vs the Cards, Brady had 2 TDs and 1 INT vs the Giants.

    And Eli was feasting on the mickey mouse Pats' D. It is irrefutable that Eli has made his name against two choking Pats Ds.

    You lose again dumbkoff.

     

     
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    queenie give it up...u just get in deeper with every silly "bb invented football/the cap is the be all and end all" post u type-jeez do u stretch and twist and spin...it's embarrassing especially for someone with a 152 IQ

     



    Junior does have a 152 IQ. He just failed to mention the IQ stands for Idiot Quotient.

     
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