Colts Badly Need a Back-up Plan

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    I'd be shocked if Manning isn't in game one, but I think the question is will he look the same as he did the start of 2008 missing time on the practice field. Next question is how fast can he get back to being the 2nd best QB in the game. Curious Colts fans if Manning got knocked out game 1 and missed the entire season how many wins would you give your team for the year?
    Posted by Wizardsjag
    Mannings out 3 wins Mannings in 11.
     
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    Wait 11 wins this season for the Colts if Manning plays?  I better check their schedule, they must be playing the Bengals 11 times this season.
     
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    We see chicken boy week 13. By my estimation, he should have taken about 75 sacks and been hit another 213 times by then. His neck will be about 1 pubic hair away from letting his head fold over and collapsing on his arss.
    That is also about the time Al, Vince and company welcome him to Gilette stadium.
    ....A sunday night, 1st week of december, and chicken boy will be without his comfy dome and piped in crowd noise. No worries chicken boy, Al and Vince will keep you warm.
     
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    In Polian's entire colts career, he had not placed value on the interior of the oline until he drafted Ugoh in the second, giving away a future first.  Bust.  The following year with the teams 1st pick (2nd rd) he picked Pollak, who many believed would replace Saturday but would be flexible enough to play Guard.  Not only has Saturday lasted, but Pollak has been awful.   I don't know what it is about these picks, but I won't crown Costanzo or Ijalana until they prove they are worthy of their draft status.    
    Posted by UD6

    I think there's sort of a ebb and flow to the draft, and basically the Colts haven't exactly been nailing it the last few years.  Every team has bad drafts, some more than others but I think you would have to agree the Colts are going to get more out of these 1 and 2 year players this year if they want to continue to be competitive into the future.  If they don't start seeing something from Hughes, Pollak, Costanzo etc. then they will probably not be a serious contendor. 

    They could try to cover those misses by using free agency but for some reason they never go that route.
     
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    I don't know UD.  I think a good draft depends on a lot of things.  Sure first rounders should be starters and 2nd rounders probaby should too.  But beyond that there needs to be something more than an average starter.  Every 3 or 4 years a team should find a star, perrennial Pro bowler type.  The Pats in the early part of this decade hit on Seymour, Light, Wilfork, and Mankins.  Then they went a few years with just some OK guys mostly.  Merriweather has been a starter, Maroney was too.  Other guys have contriuted but they really didn't hit a star until Mayo in 08, Vollmer in 09 probably then McCourty and Gronk at least in 10. 

    Some of it depends on what's open.  I think it's unlikely anyone was going to take the starting DE jobs from Freeney and Mathis the last few years but there are plenty of openings in the Oline.  The fact that nobody has outplayed 36 year old Saturday by now speaks to problems finding quality lineman.  At this point even a late round pick should probably have been able to win that job unless they were truly pathetic.  Addai is OK, but really you know just because he starts does not really make him a success, it just doesn't make him a failure. 

    Anyway you get my point just because the Drafts haven't been failures does not make them successes, at least not to the level they had been in the past and need to be to keep this run going.

    Of course some of me wonders (and I'm sure some Indy Fans also)  If Caldwell has what it takes.
     
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    Re: Colts Badly Need a Back-up Plan

    Fans in Indy must be nervous, their boys have looked bad two games in a row.

     
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         Can anybody reconcile the following two articles, which appeared in the IndyStar on August 19th and 20th, respectively? The first defends Curtis Painter and the Indy back-up QB situation...while the second heavily criticises Painter and Colts' management for the back-up situation.       Here they are: 1.) Defending Painter: http://www.indystar.com/article/20110819/SPORTS03/108190331/Notebook-Colts-like-Painter-s-leadership-resiliency 2.) Ripping the back-up situation: http://www.indystar.com/article/20110820/SPORTS03/108200330/Backup-plan-QB-lacking      LOL!!!
    Posted by TexasPat3

    Yes, I can reconcile them for you.  They are written by two different people with two different opinions.
     
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    Mananing should have took $80 mil, and told Polian to take the other $10 mil and find a decent backup.
     
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    Re: Colts Badly Need a Back-up Plan

    More
    http://www.indystar.com/article/20110820/SPORTS03/108200331/1058/SPORTS03
     
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    Re: Colts Badly Need a Back-up Plan

    The latest:

    Irsay: Colts preparing to play without Peyton

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/20/irsay-colts-preparing-to-play-without-peyton/

    Carson Plamer?
     
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    Re: Colts Badly Need a Back-up Plan

    In Response to Re: Colts Badly Need a Back-up Plan:
         Can anybody reconcile the following two articles, which appeared in the IndyStar on August 19th and 20th, respectively? The first defends Curtis Painter and the Indy back-up QB situation...while the second heavily criticises Painter and Colts' management for the back-up situation.       Here they are: 1.) Defending Painter: http://www.indystar.com/article/20110819/SPORTS03/108190331/Notebook-Colts-like-Painter-s-leadership-resiliency 2.) Ripping the back-up situation: http://www.indystar.com/article/20110820/SPORTS03/108200330/Backup-plan-QB-lacking      LOL!!!
    Posted by TexasPat3


    I'm not going to read those articles, but this post is a nice springboard to my story about studying journalism at the Defense Information School at Fort Benjamin Harrison, IN., and being instructed to stay current and informed by -- among other things -- reading the local paper, which happened to be the Indianapolis Star Tribune.

    This is kind of like training someone to study Proust by introducing him to Sam I Am.



     
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