Colts Badly Need a Back-up Plan

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    More
    http://www.indystar.com/article/20110820/SPORTS03/108200331/1058/SPORTS03
     
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    The latest:

    Irsay: Colts preparing to play without Peyton

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/20/irsay-colts-preparing-to-play-without-peyton/

    Carson Plamer?
     
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         Can anybody reconcile the following two articles, which appeared in the IndyStar on August 19th and 20th, respectively? The first defends Curtis Painter and the Indy back-up QB situation...while the second heavily criticises Painter and Colts' management for the back-up situation.       Here they are: 1.) Defending Painter: http://www.indystar.com/article/20110819/SPORTS03/108190331/Notebook-Colts-like-Painter-s-leadership-resiliency 2.) Ripping the back-up situation: http://www.indystar.com/article/20110820/SPORTS03/108200330/Backup-plan-QB-lacking      LOL!!!
    Posted by TexasPat3


    I'm not going to read those articles, but this post is a nice springboard to my story about studying journalism at the Defense Information School at Fort Benjamin Harrison, IN., and being instructed to stay current and informed by -- among other things -- reading the local paper, which happened to be the Indianapolis Star Tribune.

    This is kind of like training someone to study Proust by introducing him to Sam I Am.



     
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    In Response to Re: Colts Badly Need a Back-up Plan : I'm not going to read those articles, but this post is a nice springboard to my story about studying journalism at the Defense Information School at Fort Benjamin Harrison, IN., and being instructed to stay current and informed by -- among other things -- reading the local paper, which happened to be the Indianapolis Star Tribune. This is kind of like training someone to study Proust by introducing him to Sam I Am.
    Posted by p-mike


    Ok Pmike, how old are you? 
     
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    Let's face it, if they don't have enough resources (i.e. cap, talent, etc) to make a few more runs whilst Manning is still at the helm, then they mismanaged their team, simply put.
     
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         When asked about Peyton Manning's neck, and whether he'd be ready to go when the regular season began, Bill Polian stated the following:      “Bottom line, we truly do not know when he will be ready,” Colts president Bill Polian told ESPN Saturday. “Once the nerves regenerate properly, he’ll be ready. When that happens, he’ll be ready to ramp up immediately. It’s impossible to predict.”: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/20/polian-on-mannings-return-its-impossible-to-predict/      Wow!! If true, the Colts are in deep, deep trouble in 2011.      If Manning isn't ready to go, and the Colts lose, say, their first 3-4 games, might they be better off putting Peyton on IR, and suffering through a season with the inept Curtis Painter at the helm? Should the Colts finish with the leagues' worst record, they'll have the rights to Andrew Luck in the 2012 draft. Then...they could rebuild around Luck, and ship Peyton off for a kings' ransom worth of draft choices.       What say you, Horseshoe lovers?  
    Posted by TexasPat3


      IMO if manning was to sit out this year and recover,he would have to come back and hell of a few seasons for someone to want to pick him up and at his age new team /system rarely works out.
     
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    To bastardize a quote from one of my favorite movies, "I don't want to hear the Colts dead, I want to see the Colts dead.  Once the regular season starts, if they get it handed to them fine.  Until such time, in looking at that division, I believe it could be won by a 9-win team.  And I think the Colts can get to 9 even if Peyton misses the first couple of games.  I may be in the minority, but when we play them, I want Peyton in there - don't want to hear any excuses from Underdoggg if we beat their backup QB.
     
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    In Response to Re: Colts Badly Need a Back-up Plan:
    In Response to Re: Colts Badly Need a Back-up Plan : I'm not going to read those articles, but this post is a nice springboard to my story about studying journalism at the Defense Information School at Fort Benjamin Harrison, IN., and being instructed to stay current and informed by -- among other things -- reading the local paper, which happened to be the Indianapolis Star Tribune. This is kind of like training someone to study Proust by introducing him to Sam I Am.
    Posted by p-mike


    Ah, a reminisence of things past . . . with all the brevity of Suess. 

    And in English too . . .

    I wouldn't knock that training, Mike.  

     
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    In Response to Re: Colts Badly Need a Back-up Plan:
    In Response to Re: Colts Badly Need a Back-up Plan :      The point of this thread is not to claim that the Colts are dead. It is discuss the weakness of their back-up QB position...and the shortsightedness of the Colts' front office in not preparing for the day when Peyton would not be able to play. 
    Posted by TexasPat3


    TP:  I undestand the point of this thread and agree with everything you've said.  My point (perhaps I made it badly) was that despite their weaknesses and front office's inability to rectify a potentially bad situation, they're still probably playoff locks.  By season's end, PM will be PM (unless he gets hurt during the season) and they'll still be a team to be reckoned with.
     
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    In Response to Re: Colts Badly Need a Back-up Plan :      Perhaps you're right. But, if Peyton can't go, the Colts will be one of the five worst teams in the NFL. If he misses a couple of games, and is rusty over the next 5, it's doubtful that the Colts will make the play-offs.      I'm not a huge Houston Texan supporter, but they have a very good offense, and what looks to be an improved defense. The hiring of DC Wade Phillips, and the additions of DE JJ Watt, CB Johnathan Joseph, and OLB Brooks Reed appear to make their defense more aggressive, and more formidable.       Though experience has taught me not to put too much faith in the Chicago Cubs of the NFL, this could finally be their year. 
    Posted by TexasPat3


    Wow - I just don't see how anyone can claim Manning isn't the best QB in the game if Pats fans agree with this comment. If a single individual can make a team a superbowl contender that would otherwise be one of the "5 worst teams in the NFL", I don't know how anyone could suggest there is a better player in the game.
     
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    In Response to Re: Colts Badly Need a Back-up Plan : Wow - I just don't see how anyone can claim Manning isn't the best QB in the game if Pats fans agree with this comment. If a single individual can make a team a superbowl contender that would otherwise be one of the "5 worst teams in the NFL", I don't know how anyone could suggest there is a better player in the game.
    Posted by UD6

    It's true PM is probably the most important player to his team, but this is because of the crap that backs him up (i.e. either PM plays QB or essentially no one plays QB).  Doesn't mean he is the best QB in the game.
     
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    The good news for Colts fan is that, as of this writing, the immortal Jim Sorgi is not on an NFL roster.


     
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    No matter what the Clots do this season, what we are seeing here is the beginning of the end.  With their current backups they aren't going to win whatever games Manning can't play in this year.  They just aren't that good.  Manning has neck problems, and if he tries to play too soon he will have MORE neck problems, and I'm guessing he will continue to have them anyway, at ever increasing severity.  His play will tail off, and the Clots will fade into their rightful place...  obscurity.  Good riddance to them AND to UD6 then.
     
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    Re: Colts Badly Need a Back-up Plan

    In Response to Re: Colts Badly Need a Back-up Plan:
    In Response to Re: Colts Badly Need a Back-up Plan : It's true PM is probably the most important player to his team, but this is because of the crap that backs him up (i.e. either PM plays QB or essentially no one plays QB).  Doesn't mean he is the best QB in the game.
    Posted by sfpat

    Conventional wisdom says that the starting QB is the most important player on every team.  That said, there have been plenty of teams with marginal QB's that have been better than "one of the 5 worst teams in the NFL". 

    If what Texas Pat says is true, then, imo, what he is saying is that Manning elevates his team unlike any other player in the league.  From bottom 5 to SB contender.  If that doesn't define him as the best, I am not sure what would.
     
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    Re: Colts Badly Need a Back-up Plan

    In Response to Re: Colts Badly Need a Back-up Plan:
    In Response to Re: Colts Badly Need a Back-up Plan : Wow - I just don't see how anyone can claim Manning isn't the best QB in the game if Pats fans agree with this comment. If a single individual can make a team a superbowl contender that would otherwise be one of the "5 worst teams in the NFL", I don't know how anyone could suggest there is a better player in the game.
    Posted by UD6


    Not really.  It just shows how (based on performance during exhibition games) inept Colts backup QBs are.  Had they shown the smallest semblance of talent, I'm sure we won't be discussing this topic.  
     
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