Colts' OL Rebuffs Polian

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    Baron - of course you know that this rule wasn't instituted in 2004 but rather in 1978.  Why they stopped calling it is anyone's guess.
    Posted by underdoggggg


    Just as you know that they didn't, in fact, "stop calling it." They simply didn't call it enough to suit a team that could only succeed under the flag football mentality emphasized specifically for them and continuing to sissify the league to this day.


     
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    Re: Colts' OL Rebuffs Polian

    Here is the reason Tom Brady will always be a couple of steps in front of Peyton in class and superbowls, Tom could have complained bigtime about the lack of time he had in the pocket in the SB in 08 but of course said nothing because the Pats win as a team a lose as a team but Peyton has everyone to blame for a lose but himself! Pathetic in my book.
     
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    Re: Colts' OL Rebuffs Polian

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    In Response to Re: Colts' OL Rebuffs Polian :  But why have rules if they are not going to be enforced? 
    Posted by underdoggggg


    Because if the officials called every infraction to the letter of the rule -- instead of using vague terminology that creates "judgment" calls -- no play would ever stand and the games would take forever and, most important of all, nobody would watch.



     
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    Re: Colts' OL Rebuffs Polian

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    I suppose, but if the refs had called defensive holding or PI (which could have been called all game) just once (which it wasn't) let alone a few times.  The pats may have changed their game strategy.   I have commended the pats for their strategy, but you are full of it if you think Polian was wrong not to suggest the rules be called more closely given the way the game was officiated. It was the AFCCG for goodness sake.
    Posted by underdoggggg


    Everybody has to do what they have to do to get an edge. If it's your team that does it, it's not cheating but if it's the team that just beat you than it is cheating. I used to hang out with a guy that was a very heavy gambler. So much so that when he called his bookies they knew the guys tendancies and would adjust the line accordingly. I.E. They knew he loved to bet the Bruins so they would take at least a half goal away when he called in for the lines. I used to get pissssed and rip the guys bookie and he would just say, "Hey Man, He's just trying to get the edge and I have to figure out how to beat him". It's no different in any other sport or in business. In the end I'd rather be guy routing for the winning team than the guy complaining, "We just got Skrewwed".( Not that it's not fun to complain and rip Polian) If the Pats can figure out a way to get over on the league again for another season and win a SB I'm all for it. I don't care if it's distracting the opposing team by showing Pornos on the diamond vision while they have the ball.
     
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    Re: Colts' OL Rebuffs Polian

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    In Response to Re: Colts' OL Rebuffs Polian :      Dog(gggg)...no one is disputing that Manning is a great regular season QB. That's where his "prolific numbers" lie. But, in the playoffs, his numbers aren't "prolific" at all. Why do you think that is? Perhaps if you read this article, you'll get a clue: http://www.profootballweekly.com/2010/02/12/time-to-trim-manning-back-to-size
    Posted by TexasPat3

    "Great regular season QB" gives him too much credit. His stats are very similar to tommy's in every catagory except for one; picks. Jughead has twice as many.
    In addition, 12 years in the league, surrounded by HOF receivers, pro-bowl RBs and superior defenses, he's been to one SB. And that one was a gift from NFL referees. 

    I'm thinking "overrated" is a much more descriptive label for jughead than "great regular reeason QB".  
     
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    i just want to ask a simple question....why is this board so obsessed with polian?

    the man does not effect the outcome of games, nor has he been ever convicted of cheating of any kind...so why the hate?

    I disagree... He effected any chance of a perfect season, against the teams wishes. I lost the shred of respect I had for him then.
     
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    Alf - except, of course, that the Pats can go 11-5 without Brady and with a QB that hasn't had a start in 8 years, while even most here agree that the colts couldn't go 5-11 without Manning.  Can you say "most valuable", "most responsibility", "most pressure".  That's manning.  Remember, as most of you have said, the Colts D stunk, the colts coach (Dungy) wasn't much.  On the other hand, the pats had a legendary defense and the smartest coach in the NFL.  Heck, all Brady has had to be is a great game manager.  Talk about easy.  With that coach and that defense.  As good as he is, with the coach, the d, and those extra videotapes, its no wonder the pats won 3. 
    Posted by underdoggggg


    Or that the Pats train their back up Qb's better than the Colts do.....that has to be it.....
     
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    Not to mention the Patriots 2008 schedule was said to be the 2nd easiest schedule of the last 20 years going into the season. If Bernard(The Hitman) Pollard had been picked up by Kevin Faulk( suspended due to puffing the magic dragon) instead of Sammy Morris then The Pats had a very good chance at going back to back undefeated regular seasons, and perhaps a shot at redemption.

    Not taking away from Belichick's ability to build a team that can somewhat withstand the loss of the best QB in the game but the schedule surely played a part in getting to 11 wins. That one particular season anyway.
     
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    Re: Colts' OL Rebuffs Polian

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    Alf - except, of course, that the Pats can go 11-5 without Brady and with a QB that hasn't had a start in 8 years, while even most here agree that the colts couldn't go 5-11 without Manning.  Can you say "most valuable", "most responsibility", "most pressure".  That's manning.  Remember, as most of you have said, the Colts D stunk, the colts coach (Dungy) wasn't much.  On the other hand, the pats had a legendary defense and the smartest coach in the NFL.  Heck, all Brady has had to be is a great game manager.  Talk about easy.  With that coach and that defense.  As good as he is, with the coach, the d, and those extra videotapes, its no wonder the pats won 3. 
    Posted by underdoggggg

    The Pats went 11-5 against the weakest divisions in football (The AFC & NFC West). Anyone who says the Colts would go 5-11 without Peyton is a clown. First off, we don't know how good the Colts team really is without Doofus because Mr. Forehead falls on the floor before anyone can get near him. Tom Moore is the best offensive mind in football, if that idiot McDaniels can make Matt Cassel shine I can just imagine what Moore would do for a Colt back-up. 

    For all this "The Colts wouldn't function without Peyton" crud, it seemed as if in the SB the Colts only work with Freeny at 100%. 


    Now, you keep disrespecting Tom Brady and it's really starting to pis$ me off. First off all, we already covered that having a great D is nice, but it doesn't mean squat without good QB play. And sure, having Belichick is amazing, but it doesn't help Brady much. Last I checked, Bill is a defensive guru. 


    What's really sad is that Peyton, as good as he is, with the receiving corps that he had, and the best offensive mind in football (Tom Moore) only won one SB. 

     
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    Re: Colts' OL Rebuffs Polian

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    E - well put.  I just find it kind of ironic that there are fans here who scream bloody murder about the missed PI call in the 06 AFCCG (even though it was made up with the Gaffney one footed TD), yet feign ignorance re: the raping of Colts receivers for the entire 04 AFCCG.   Fandom at its best I suppose. 
    Posted by underdoggggg


    Doesn't do much good to get hung up on that stuff.It's like watching Kobe or Lebron and not expecting them to get calls.You just accept that it's going to happen and figure out how to work around it. I would say one of Belichicks strongest qualities as a coach is to do whatever it takes. He is also one of the only people I have ever known that truly doesn't care what anyone thinks. Most people say they don't care but they really do. BB truly doesn't care and it allows him to stay focused and do the right thing.
     
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    Re: Colts' OL Rebuffs Polian

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    Not to mention the Patriots 2008 schedule was said to be the 2nd easiest schedule of the last 20 years going into the season. If Bernard(The Hitman) Pollard had been picked up by Kevin Faulk( suspended due to puffing the magic dragon) instead of Sammy Morris then The Pats had a very good chance at going back to back undefeated regular seasons, and perhaps a shot at redemption. Not taking away from Belichick's ability to build a team that can somewhat withstand the loss of the best QB in the game but the schedule surely played a part in getting to 11 wins. That one particular season anyway.
    Posted by TrueChamp



        I remember that Sammy Morris did block Pollard. It is just that Pollard crawled along the ground and then lunged into Brady's knee cap.
     
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    Re: Colts' OL Rebuffs Polian

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    E - well put.  I just find it kind of ironic that there are fans here who scream bloody murder about the missed PI call in the 06 AFCCG (even though it was made up with the Gaffney one footed TD), yet feign ignorance re: the raping of Colts receivers for the entire 04 AFCCG.   Fandom at its best I suppose. 
    Posted by underdoggggg



     If as you imply the Pats violated the NFL PI rules while covering colts receivers than why did Polin ask to have the rule changed?

     
     
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    Re: Colts' OL Rebuffs Polian

    >>>>remember Edge blew a knee and wasn't the same after<<<<<<<

     Now you have throw the colts all time leading rusher under the bus to cover up for Payton's poor play.

     James had over 1,500 rushing yards in both in 2004 and 2005 well after his knee injury.
     
     
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    Re: Colts' OL Rebuffs Polian

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    In Response to Re: Colts' OL Rebuffs Polian : As far as I know, he didn't ask to have the rule changed.  He asked to have the rule enforced.
    Posted by underdoggggg


      

       Pooland had the rule change to disallow "incidental" contact after 5 yards.

      
     

     
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