Re: Colts Still in Denial Over Trent Richardson
posted at 2/24/2014 12:25 PM EST
In response to UD6's comment:
Ha-ha. Got me on the name. What can I say, in my mind it was funny at the time, and now I'm to stubborn to change it.
We'll have to disagree on the chokiest part - I think Gomer sets the standard in choking, and a hypothetical scenario where the Colts don't win their division in 2014 would also be an underwhelming performance. Whereas Brady committed hubris, but IMO didn't choke.
So what you're saying is that it isn't painfully obvious that the Richardson trade was a really bad move? That trading your first round pick for a bad RB that didn't get any better once traded to the Colts wasn't dumb? Of course not having that pick will set you back. It remains to be seen how badly, seing as the status quo is decent enough, but that pick could have provided some real help for years to come, whereas Richardson will be gone soon enough.
What I said was that Richardson was bad this year and if the trade is based only on this year, then yes, the colts were on the wrong end of the deal, but I think Richardson deserves more time to prove himself. Maybe he'll suck.
RESPONSE: Why does Richardson "deserve" more time to prove himself? What has he done in Indy to deserve anything...except a pink slip?
Even if he does suck, it doesn't mean the colts will have been set back for years.
RESPONSE: What do you think it means, Gomez? To me it means that the Colts still have a need at RB, with Brown an UFA, and Ballard coming off a pretty severe injury. It also means that the Colts missed an opportunity to improve the marshmellowy soft middle of their DL, and/or add a top rated body guard for Luck.
Cleveland got the 26th pick and there are plenty of players drafted at the end of the first and start of the second round that haven't turned out but the pick didn't substantially hurt the team. I suppose that is somewhat speculative given the question well what would have happened if the colts had the pick or if they didn't have richardson. At the end of the day, the colts were 11-5 in 2013 and Richardson's presence didn't hurt them and they needed a running back.
RESPONSE: Didn't hurt them? It killed them! Luck had no viable rushing threat, which made the Indy offense one dimensional. Richardson's fumble in the playoff game against the Chiefs certainly wasn't helpful, either.
For the richardson trade to really hurt, the colts would have needed to draft a player that would have started right away. Looking at last year's draft, of the last 10 players taken in the first round (where the colts would have picked) half of them were not primary starters their rookie season.
RESPONSE: What a ridiculous argument! So now, according to you, a top 30 prospect is worthless! The Colts won 11 games and made he playoffs largely because of the fact that they play in the weakest division in football. They gave up 40 plus points to the Chiefs at home, in a game that they were very lucky to win. They were embarrassed by a depleted Patriots squad because they couldn't stop the run. They badly need a top prospect at DT, ILB, on the OL, and at RB, as previously mentioned above.
That deep in the first, there's no guarantee that players pan out. That pats took Dowling 33, chung 34, Merriweather 24, Maroney 21, Jackson 36.
RESPONSE: How juvenile. Try these names on for size: Joe Addai, Reggie Wayne, Bob Sanders, Gronk, Devin McCourty.
they've also had some very productive picks, but the point is that there is no guarantee.
RESPONSE:The point is that they've already ave busted out with Richardson. In so doing, they've lost a prime opportunity to add a significant player at a position of need.
For what Richardson could be (and he may not be that now) - a future low first rounder was not a significant give. If this trade had been made now, that value would be probably low 2nd round.
RESPONSE: Ridiculous! Any time a team trades away a #1 draft choice is a "significant move". The bloom is off the rose on Richardson. If the trade would be made now, Richardson would fetch a 4th rounder at best.