Re: Colts Still in Denial Over Trent Richardson
posted at 2/24/2014 8:05 PM EST
In response to TexasPat's comment:
In response to UD6's comment:
[QUOTE]...If you were the Colts GM, and you could have a "do-over",would you make that Richardson trade, or ship Richardson back to Cleveland, and regain the Colts' #1 in 2014?
today, I would like to have the pick, but again, I am not going to kill the guy for making the trade. The colts have gone 11-5 over the past 2 years, and if this is his only mistake during that time, then he deserves more than a pass.
But beyond that, why would any GM publicly knock a current team player? Belichick wouldn't. You would accept that from him. Why do you have different standards for other teams?
RESPONSE: True...but to make the claim that he would make that trade again today is a ridiculous statement...and one that I doubt BB would make. A more reasonable comment would be, "Trent is a talented player who is working hard, and getting our offensive system down. We'll see how it goes in 2014".
If true - then lets not qualify it. We can mince words all we want. By making the statement he made, he is demonstrating to Richardson that he is in his corner. that he still has expectations of him. If he tacitly defends the trade with your words then it sends a different (less committed) message. Grigson has been very good in his short time. He took over a 2-14 team, turned over nearly the entire roster in 2 years. that's an extraoridinary amount of activity well beyond other teams. While I don't yet consider the team that good, they've done some remarkable things over these 2 years and made the playoffs. continue the criticism if it makes you feel better, but objectively, its sounds like sour grapes given his success and the team's success otherwise.
RESPONSE: Nonsense! What made Grison was his luck in getting Luck. How hard is it to turn over an aging team that just finished 2-14?What choice did he have but to turn that team over? Not hard to upgrade from a bunch of players that absolutely suck.
At least you are willing to acknowledge that trading for Richardson was a mistake...and that I was dead on in my criticisms of the deal, when it was first made. Hate to say, "I told you so, Gomez...but..."
Luck was a great deal of help, but Luck doesn't play defense or special teams or offensive line or etc.
RESPONSE: Special teams have never been an Indy strength...and the Indy defense was a disaster, especially in the play-offs. Luck carried that team.
Since 2000, 10 QB's were taken #1. No team did what the colts did with their rookie QB. There are other factors involved.
RESPONSE: Just goes to show how stats can be manipulated to butress a bogus point. Of the 10 previous QBs taken since 2000 in the first round, none was as highly touted (and for good reason) as Luck. Luck was the best QB prospect since that Horsefaced choke artist, who now plays in Denver, was selected.
Grigson has turned over 80% of the roster because like you said, everyone else sucked. He had to find players that were available that did not suck, and he did. That's why he won exec of the year.
RESPONSE: Grigson did a decent job. But the main reason for the Colts resurgence came about due to the team tanking the 2011 season. Grigson should get no credit for taking Luck. He was the consensus #1 overall pick in 2012. I do credit him for finding better players than the Colts had in 2011. But, that shouldn't have resulted in him being named "Executive of the Year". today, I would like to have the pick, but again, I am not going to kill the guy for making the trade. The colts have gone 11-5 over the past 2 years, and if this is his only mistake during that time, then he deserves more than a pass.
And what I said about the trade is if I am only allowed to look at his 2013 production then it was a bad trade, but he's got more time to prove his worth. What I said is lets wait. I am sure that you'll take my comments out of context in the future. That's your MO.
RESPONSE: Oh really? Re-read your own words, Gomez: "today, I would like to have the pick, but again, I am not going to kill the guy for making the trade." The colts have gone 11-5 over the past 2 years, and if this is his only mistake during that time, then he deserves more than a pass.
RESPONSE: Grigson deserves "more than a pass" for trading away his #1 pick in 2014 for a bust, who is he second coming of Ron Dayne?? Uh...okay.
How's his team done since he arrived? What was the team's record the year before he showed up? Trading away #26
From 2000-2008 only 50% of the players taken with the last 10 picks in the first round started more than 4 years in the league. 32% started less than 3 years. Giving a future 1st rounder in the last 10 for the possibility of getting a great running back is not a bad thing. Again - it was a future first. That likely puts the pick value somewhere in the second round, and I'd imagine the success of second rounders is even lower than those taken in the bottom of the first round?
Look, I know you want to make this as horrible as you can, but it just isn't.