Colts To Release Manning?

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Colts To Release Manning? : you don't tell them to tank but you of all people should realize the importance of coach decisions and game plans. The players can only run the plays they are given and will only play up to the coaching they receive. They have been out of position and couldn't tackle if you put a gun to their heads. That has a lot to do with coaching and preparing the players correctly. It's also having the right game plan which obviously they haven't had a good game plan going into a single game this season, yet alone make in game adjustments. Trust me, they can be tanking the season without ever letting the players know they are tanking. Heck after a 0-5 start the players will start to tank themselves
    Posted by PatsEng[/QUOTE]

         Leaving the incompetent Jim Caldwell in charge ensured that the Colts would not improve...as the season wore on.
     
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    In Response to [QUOTE] he could go to the best team. or does he go for the most$ / longest contract? Posted by bredbru[/QUOTE]

    Peyton sure does love money.
     
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    [QUOTE]Patseng, i can resist asking no longer, what's your avatar? Looks like some kind of mutated elephant thing that might have fought Godzilla.
    Posted by TheExaminer[/QUOTE]
    It's the Dramatic Prairie Dog.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHjFxJVeCQs
     
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    I bet this happens. I see the dolts doing a complete overhaul and start playing Tebow-ball next season.


    Manning ends up in Tennessee
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Colts To Release Manning? : It's the Dramatic Prairie Dog. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHjFxJVeCQs
    Posted by digger0862[/QUOTE]

    Thanks. THAT is lterally one of the funniest things I've ever seen. Laughed til I bawled. LOL
     
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    [QUOTE]I bet this happens. I see the dolts doing a complete overhaul and start playing Tebow-ball next season. Manning ends up in Tennessee
    Posted by kansaspatriot[/QUOTE]

         The only place that Manning is going to end up is on his couch. He's done. 
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Colts To Release Manning? :      The only place that Manning is going to end up is on his couch. He's done. 
    Posted by TexasPat3[/QUOTE]

    You know that?
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Colts To Release Manning? : You know that?
    Posted by kansaspatriot[/QUOTE]

         The guy reportedly is unable to squeeze a nerf football: http://www.coltzilla.com/2011-regular-season/espns-mortensen-colts-manning-still-hopes-to-play-this-season/#more-16580
     
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    they would cut him. the chance to trade him and his 28 million dollar cap hit is just not feasable.
     
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    That would be crazy!!!!In Response to Re: Colts To Release Manning?:
    [QUOTE]he'll go to the jets.
    Posted by KyleCleric2[/QUOTE]
     
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    He should go to the Giants and fight it out with Eli for the top job....just imagine the media firestorm that would cause.
     
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    [QUOTE]They have a 2 game lead for Luck right now. I would not be shocked for Manning to come back in week 17 to showcase that he still has something left in preparation for a trade. However, I don't think a single team will give up the picks and 28mil to get Manning. Not even the Jets are that stupid. He will get released or they will trade the #1 pick for a ton of picks. If they were smart they'd trade the #1 for a kings ransom and draft another QB to work under Manning for a couple of years. Then use all those extra picks they got to rebuild their team around the QB they decide to draft. There are a couple of really good looking QB's in the draft this year so dropping down a number of picks won't hurt them if they can get a ton of picks back. However, because the fan base has basically been promised Luck at this point they will release Manning, get nothing for him, and put Luck into a situation that's a no win on a team that's falling apart and losing talent
    Posted by PatsEng[/QUOTE]

    eng,
    the latter is my dream scenario
     
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    Hey Texas Pat, why don't you show us your degree in neurology, instead of running that steady flow of diarrhea out of your mouth. I'd worry much more about your defense that Chaz Bono could catch a pass on, instead of how we rebuild our team.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Colts To Release Manning? : you don't tell them to tank but you of all people should realize the importance of coach decisions and game plans. The players can only run the plays they are given and will only play up to the coaching they receive. They have been out of position and couldn't tackle if you put a gun to their heads. That has a lot to do with coaching and preparing the players correctly. It's also having the right game plan which obviously they haven't had a good game plan going into a single game this season, yet alone make in game adjustments. Trust me, they can be tanking the season without ever letting the players know they are tanking. Heck after a 0-5 start the players will start to tank themselves
    Posted by PatsEng[/QUOTE]
    You really are making my point about Manning being possibly the GOAT.   

    The oline still stinks.  The run game is actually better.  The receivers are the same, they just don't get balls thrown to them.  The defense is no worse, in fact, I could make an argument that they are playing better.  That is not to suggest the defense is good, but while Polian and the rest of the defensive players scoff at the idea that the team was built with the offense in mind is not being honest with themselves. 

    The coaches are the same they've had for the past 3 years which include a superbowl appearance and an undefeated season before resting starters. The secret to beating the colts is to keep the ball out of Manning's hands.   Look at the running games of the other teams in the south. MJD, Foster, Johnson. The problem those teams have had in the past, however, is that Manning could always strike quickly.  He forced teams to be more aggressive and take chances they wouldn't otherwise take (4th and 2). Brady forces the same thing.  So does Brees and Rodgers.

    Now, I am not saying the colts coaching is good.  I don't believe that.  I believe the players may have won in the past in spite of the coaches, although I admit I could be wrong. 

    Unlike the Broncos, Painter can't go like 8 straight 3 & outs and then simply spread the offense and go read option for 95 yards.  Very few QB's could do that.  Further, the colts don't have Denver's defense who, it appears may be able to compete against most if not any offense. 

    No one's tanking, although anyone with a brain has to believe they've lost confidence in themselves. 
     
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    [QUOTE]Hey Texas Pat, why don't you show us your degree in neurology, instead of running that steady flow of diarrhea out of your mouth. I'd worry much more about your defense that Chaz Bono could catch a pass on, instead of how we rebuild our team.
    Posted by ColtsMan73[/QUOTE]
    Don't fault Texas Pat.  The colts failures are his Cialis. 
     
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    [QUOTE]They have a 2 game lead for Luck right now. I would not be shocked for Manning to come back in week 17 to showcase that he still has something left in preparation for a trade. However, I don't think a single team will give up the picks and 28mil to get Manning. Not even the Jets are that stupid. He will get released or they will trade the #1 pick for a ton of picks. If they were smart they'd trade the #1 for a kings ransom and draft another QB to work under Manning for a couple of years. Then use all those extra picks they got to rebuild their team around the QB they decide to draft. There are a couple of really good looking QB's in the draft this year so dropping down a number of picks won't hurt them if they can get a ton of picks back. However, because the fan base has basically been promised Luck at this point they will release Manning, get nothing for him, and put Luck into a situation that's a no win on a team that's falling apart and losing talent
    Posted by PatsEng[/QUOTE]

    The Colts don't have an easy decision facing them. If you believe Luck is truly the next Elway (or Peyton for that matter), there is no way you do not choose him with the first pick. You can't pass and have that end up being something you rue for the next 10-15 years. The risk,  of course, is that he turns into a Ryan Leaf, and you forego a package that could solidify your team for the next decade.

    In either event, the smartest thing for them to do is cut Manning first and free up the cash commitment. That would give them the most flexibility up to the time of draft. Even if 36 year-old Peyton comes back from the fusion, how long can he possibly play at the level he needs to for $28M? 1 or 2 years maybe? Better to move onto the future of the franchise, Luck or package. The fanbase by now is already used to playing without him.
     
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    I don't see what's difficult about the decision if you're the Colts?  You have an old guy who may never be able to even play again or play effectively.  Whether you keep, release or trade Manning, you draft Luck. If you don't want to pay the $28 million, and Manning won't move the date back, you release him. What's complicated here?
     
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    Washington Redskins
     
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    [QUOTE]Hey Texas Pat, why don't you show us your degree in neurology, instead of running that steady flow of diarrhea out of your mouth. I'd worry much more about your defense that Chaz Bono could catch a pass on, instead of how we rebuild our team.
    Posted by ColtsMan73[/QUOTE]

         Hello...my good friend from South Carolina...formerly HorseColt18, now ColtsMan73. Are you still cleaning stables out there?

         What do you think, my friend...are the 2011 Colts the worst team in NFL history?? LOL!!!

         Happy Thanksgiving, HorseColt!!
     
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    [QUOTE]I don't see what's difficult about the decision if you're the Colts?  You have an old guy who may never be able to even play again or play effectively.  Whether you keep, release or trade Manning, you draft Luck. If you don't want to pay the $28 million, and Manning won't move the date back, you release him. What's complicated here?
    Posted by Muzwell[/QUOTE]


    The complicated part, is that Bill Polianand Jim Irsay have shown this year just how inept they are at running an organization.If they plan to draft Luck, they should drop Manning and invest that 28 million he would be getting on talent to surround the rookie QB. However, I get the feeling they would rather have another year or two of a medicore Peyton, with a few 8-8 finishes, follwed by a decade of horrible football due to not building the team properly.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Colts To Release Manning? : The complicated part, is that Bill Polianand Jim Irsay have shown this year just how inept they are at running an organization.If they plan to draft Luck, they should drop Manning and invest that 28 million he would be getting on talent to surround the rookie QB. However, I get the feeling they would rather have another year or two of a medicore Peyton, with a few 8-8 finishes, follwed by a decade of horrible football due to not building the team properly.
    Posted by FishTaco64[/QUOTE]

         Even they aren't so stupid that they would pass on Luck. The Colts need to go into full rebuilding mode. They should completely clean house (that includes the firing of the Polians), and build around Luck. 
     
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    [QUOTE]I don't see what's difficult about the decision if you're the Colts?  You have an old guy who may never be able to even play again or play effectively.  Whether you keep, release or trade Manning, you draft Luck. If you don't want to pay the $28 million, and Manning won't move the date back, you release him. What's complicated here?
    Posted by Muzwell[/QUOTE]

    What's complicated is public relations.

    I'm not inside the heads of the Indy fan base, but I do know that unless you're sure you've got Aaron Rodgers ready to step in, you don't spit in the face of the . . .   ummmmm . . .  face . . .  of your franchise.

    Oh . . .  sure, Colts apologist is waving his "Suck for Luck" banner now, but when Andrew Luck turns out to be David Klingler, they'll be the first ones to turn around and say, "How could you turn your back on  our beloved hero?"

     
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    if they did and he was able to play i think the ravens would be a team that could win it all with him. flacco is pretty bad.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Colts To Release Manning? : What's complicated is public relations. I'm not inside the heads of the Indy fan base, but I do know that unless you're sure you've got Aaron Rodgers ready to step in, you don't spit in the face of the . . .   ummmmm . . .  face . . .  of your franchise. Oh . . .  sure, Colts apologist is waving his "Suck for Luck" banner now, but when Andrew Luck turns out to be David Klingler, they'll be the first ones to turn around and say, "How could you turn your back on  our beloved hero?"
    Posted by p-mike[/QUOTE]

         Manning is done. My guess is that even he is beginning to realize it.

         To gamble on a 36 year old guy coming back to top form after a double neck surgery, while playing behind a weak OL, is absurd.

         As for "spitting in his face", the Colts gave him a mega-extension, without doing their due diligence in determining his health. Manning got paid $26mil. this year, for doing nothing. I wish someone would "spit in my face" like that, too.  
     

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