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    Condolences to UD6.

    posted at 1/20/2012 12:16 PM EST

    Brady just passed Manning in all-time playoff passer rating. I know that was one of the last sheds of hope you were clinging to in your obsession to delude yourself into thinking Manning was better.
     

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    Re: Condolences to UD6.

    posted at 1/20/2012 12:24 PM EST

    In Response to Re: Condolences to UD6.:
    Does that count playoffs too or just regular season?
    Posted by RidingWithTheKingII



    Brady was ahead in career season PR. The Denver game put him ahead of Gomer in the playoffs too. Dog was touting that on Manning's behalf. (Even though his numbers came in lower playoff rounds)
     

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    Re: Condolences to UD6.

    posted at 1/20/2012 12:33 PM EST

    Funny thing about that until either retires every playoff game can affect the rating.

    I'd hold off celebrating until it's set in stone. Much like with UD, you don't want to declare something only to have it come back and bit you in the @ss
     

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    Re: Condolences to UD6.

    posted at 1/20/2012 1:17 PM EST



     I think we can all agree that we've been lucky to have witnessed two of the all time greats .

    Actually Possibly Three.

    Poor Brees , had he come along 10 years earlier ( or later )  , we'd most likely be including him in the discussion .

     To that regard ...
    all the RODGERS lovers out there need to tap the breaks on the BEST EVER crap until he gets at least another half dozen years under his belt.
     He looked pretty pedestrain down the stretch this year.
     

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    Re: Condolences to UD6.

    posted at 1/20/2012 1:22 PM EST

    In Response to Condolences to UD6.:
    Brady just passed Manning in all-time playoff passer rating. I know that was one of the last sheds of hope you were clinging to in your obsession to delude yourself into thinking Manning was better.
    Posted by BabeParilli


    Appreciate the consideration, but its unnecessary.  2011 was an unprecedented year in which established offenses were able to shred defenses due to the lockout and as evidenced by the volume of QB's throwing for 5000 yards. 

    I'd imagine that if Peyton had played he would have been in that crowd.  Alas, he didn't get to play in the outlier year, but its not forgotten.  Nor is the fact that he may be the best QB of all-time. 
     

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    Re: Condolences to UD6.

    posted at 1/20/2012 1:27 PM EST

    In Response to Re: Condolences to UD6.:
     I think we can all agree that we've been lucky to have witnessed two of the all time greats . Poor Brees , had he come along 10 years earlier ( or later )  , we'd probably be talkin' about him as well.  To that regard ... all the RODGERS lovers out there need to tap the breaks on the BEST EVER crap until he gets at least another half dozen years under his belt.  He looked pretty pedestrain down the stretch this year.
    Posted by CaptnFoxboro

    And remember Capn - Manning went into that 16th game with 49 TD's and only played one series before being pulled.  I did an analysis for someone earlier this year and Brady played quite a bit more in his 07 season than Manning did in his 04 season.  But I also said that's the way the cookie crumbles.  I just don't want to hear anyone saying that Belichick doesn't have Brady and other players going for stats and records.  Its obvious he does. 
     

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    Re: Condolences to UD6.

    posted at 1/20/2012 1:28 PM EST

    In Response to Re: Condolences to UD6.:
    In Response to Condolences to UD6. : Appreciate the consideration, but its unnecessary.  2011 was an unprecedented year in which established offenses were able to shred defenses due to the lockout and as evidenced by the volume of QB's throwing for 5000 yards.  I'd imagine that if Peyton had played he would have been in that crowd.  Alas, he didn't get to play in the outlier year, but its not forgotten.  Nor is the fact that he may be the best QB of all-time. 
    Posted by UD6
    UD...  agree with you here and we forgot one thing..  Brady also missed the 2008 season, which based on his 2007 season, could have resulted in even better numbers, career wise given the last couple seasons.  Peyton would have to FAR exceed his normal stats to stay ahead.
     

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    Re: Condolences to UD6.

    posted at 1/20/2012 1:36 PM EST

    In Response to Re: Condolences to UD6.:
    In Response to Condolences to UD6. : Appreciate the consideration, but its unnecessary.  2011 was an unprecedented year in which established offenses were able to shred defenses due to the lockout and as evidenced by the volume of QB's throwing for 5000 yards.  I'd imagine that if Peyton had played he would have been in that crowd.  Alas, he didn't get to play in the outlier year, but its not forgotten.  Nor is the fact that he may be the best QB of all-time. 
    Posted by UD6



    Sorry, but I've already proven this year was not significantly a greater passing year than the last quarter century.
     

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    Re: Condolences to UD6.

    posted at 1/20/2012 1:53 PM EST

    In Response to Re: Condolences to UD6.:
     I think we can all agree that we've been lucky to have witnessed two of the all time greats . Actually Possibly Three. Poor Brees , had he come along 10 years earlier ( or later )  , we'd most likely be including him in the discussion ....
    Posted by CaptnFoxboro


    Brees can definitely be included. He's two years younger than Brady, has more passing yards already and only 19 fewer TDs. If he plays close to his current level until he's 38 (six more years), he'd have a chance at catching Favre's TD record (needs 38 TDs/year) and getting fairly close to his yardage record. If he plays as long as Favre, he'll be first in both (assuming good health).

    I would say Favre belongs in the discussion as well, while we're at it.
     

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    Re: Condolences to UD6.

    posted at 1/20/2012 2:27 PM EST

    In Response to Re: Condolences to UD6.:
    In Response to Re: Condolences to UD6. : UD...  agree with you here and we forgot one thing..  Brady also missed the 2008 season, which based on his 2007 season, could have resulted in even better numbers, career wise given the last couple seasons.  Peyton would have to FAR exceed his normal stats to stay ahead.
    Posted by agcsbill


    AGC - You have a point, but if we were to use that logic, then I suppose we could look at Manning's 2005 year as a clue to Brady's anticipated 2008 season.  Manning had an excellent year.  Led the league in passer rating, but he threw fewer TD's and 800 fewer yards.  The point is that there is no guarantee that a best ever season is followed the next year by an even better season. 
     

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    Re: Condolences to UD6.

    posted at 1/20/2012 2:48 PM EST

    Can you imagine what Brady's stats would look like if he got to play most of his career indoors?  

    No weather......faster track for his recievers.  Would his numbers be 10% higher?  15% higher?




     

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    Re: Condolences to UD6.

    posted at 1/20/2012 3:00 PM EST

    In Response to Re: Condolences to UD6.:
    In Response to Re: Condolences to UD6. : And remember Capn - Manning went into that 16th game with 49 TD's and only played one series before being pulled.  I did an analysis for someone earlier this year and Brady played quite a bit more in his 07 season than Manning did in his 04 season.  But I also said that's the way the cookie crumbles.  I just don't want to hear anyone saying that Belichick doesn't have Brady and other players going for stats and records.  Its obvious he does. 
    Posted by UD6

    He has them going for wins. The rest follows.

     

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    Re: Condolences to UD6.

    posted at 1/20/2012 3:06 PM EST


     

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    Re: Condolences to UD6.

    posted at 1/20/2012 3:18 PM EST

    In Response to Re: Condolences to UD6.:
    In Response to Re: Condolences to UD6. : And remember Capn - Manning went into that 16th game with 49 TD's and only played one series before being pulled.  I did an analysis for someone earlier this year and Brady played quite a bit more in his 07 season than Manning did in his 04 season.  But I also said that's the way the cookie crumbles.  I just don't want to hear anyone saying that Belichick doesn't have Brady and other players going for stats and records.  Its obvious he does. 
    Posted by UD6



    Obviously he doesn't. If he did he wouldn't have had Brady hand the ball off 3 times when they were inside the 10 against the Donkeys and the all time playoff game TD mark was there for the taking.
     

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    Re: Condolences to UD6.

    posted at 1/20/2012 3:32 PM EST

    In Response to Re: Condolences to UD6.:
    In Response to Re: Condolences to UD6. : Obviously he doesn't. If he did he wouldn't have had Brady hand the ball off 3 times when they were inside the 10 against the Donkeys and the all time playoff game TD mark was there for the taking.
    Posted by BabeParilli


    Not to mention the record for most career TDs in the postseason.  Or the number of passing yards in a playoff game.
     

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    Re: Condolences to UD6.

    posted at 1/20/2012 3:36 PM EST

    In Response to Re: Condolences to UD6.:
    In Response to Condolences to UD6. : Appreciate the consideration, but its unnecessary.  2011 was an unprecedented year in which established offenses were able to shred defenses due to the lockout and as evidenced by the volume of QB's throwing for 5000 yards.  I'd imagine that if Peyton had played he would have been in that crowd.  Alas, he didn't get to play in the outlier year, but its not forgotten.  Nor is the fact that he may be the best QB of all-time. 
    Posted by UD6


    Your premise must include SB victories, which it does not. Eli may prove to be the best QB in that family.
     

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    Re: Condolences to UD6.

    posted at 1/20/2012 3:58 PM EST

    In Response to Condolences to UD6.:
    Brady just passed Manning in all-time playoff passer rating. I know that was one of the last sheds of hope you were clinging to in your obsession to delude yourself into thinking Manning was better.
    Posted by BabeParilli


         LOL!!!
     

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    Re: Condolences to UD6.

    posted at 1/20/2012 4:11 PM EST

    In Response to Re: Condolences to UD6.:
    In Response to Condolences to UD6. : Appreciate the consideration, but its unnecessary.  2011 was an unprecedented year in which established offenses were able to shred defenses due to the lockout and as evidenced by the volume of QB's throwing for 5000 yards.  I'd imagine that if Peyton had played he would have been in that crowd.  Alas, he didn't get to play in the outlier year, but its not forgotten.  Nor is the fact that he may be the best QB of all-time. 
    Posted by UD6


    Huh, if the Aints get to the SB, Seyton won't even be the best Manning of all time...
     

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    Re: Condolences to UD6.

    posted at 1/20/2012 4:46 PM EST

    The Dolts should make Manning thier QB coach next year and if healthy allow him to play as a Player coach.  They could restucture his contact with insentives if he plays.  He's already coaching the offense when he's on the field so why not.  In a few years he could even be the OC or HC.
     

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    Re: Condolences to UD6.

    posted at 1/20/2012 4:53 PM EST

    Brady, Peyton and Brees are definitely the solid corps of their generation's elite QBs...and they span the different storylines too. Peyton is the college star...known #1 overall who inherits a crappy team and builds them into perrennial contenders. Brady...well you all know...Brady is the afterthought who fills in for the injured aging star and makes the most of his opportunity to become great. Then Brees is the known commodity out of college, taken as someone you knew could play...does very well for the team who drafted him, yet they show him no respect. He signs as a FA wiith one of the worst franchises historically in the game, and turns them instantly into a legit team.

    They really are all great stories...I'm not really sure which one is the better storybook ending.
     

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    Re: Condolences to UD6.

    posted at 1/20/2012 5:00 PM EST

    In Response to Re: Condolences to UD6.:
    In Response to Re: Condolences to UD6. : And remember Capn - Manning went into that 16th game with 49 TD's and only played one series before being pulled.  I did an analysis for someone earlier this year and Brady played quite a bit more in his 07 season than Manning did in his 04 season.  But I also said that's the way the cookie crumbles.  I just don't want to hear anyone saying that Belichick doesn't have Brady and other players going for stats and records.  Its obvious he does. 
    Posted by UD6


    Yes. Playing every minute of December games outdoors in New Englans, Buffalo and or New York is just the thing for a QB rating. Too bad Manning had to play indoors where the weather was always perfect.

    Speaking of playing outdoors - how did that go for Drew Brees this year. Fact of the matter is playing indoors adds TONS to a QB rating over time.