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Whiteys last murder he personally commited was with a machine gun - Im sure Whitey just bought it in VA and TX too. Im sure as a man on the FBIs 10 most wanted list, he had no trouble buying his 18 firearms at a gunshop. If they were aquired outside of CA, how could he bring them into CA anyway as it is illegal to own these firearms there. You mean GASP that Whitey as a felon would knowingly break a law???. PLEASE - these ridiculous firearms restrictions laws are nothing more than typical Liberal "FEEL GOOD" laws. They make no sense, we have no clue how to enforce them , but we put them on the books because it makes everybody feel good! Like the hypocrite Rosie O'Donell wants to take away YOUR firearms, but its perfectly fine for HER bodyguard to own one!
Sir, you are missing the point. It wasn't Whitey who purchased the guns in VA or TX. He purchased them from someone who bought them for him. Please, instead of simply reacting emotionally to this issue why not be open to a differing point of view?
And this notion that anyone wants to ban or take away any law abiding private citizen's firearm is a fallacy that is a creation of Wayne LaPierre and the NRA and is a bunch of pluperfect poppycock (not my preferred choice of words but it'll do).
And this notion that anyone wants to ban or take away any law abiding private citizen's firearm is a fallacy that is a creation of Wayne LaPierre and the NRA
Sort of like the libbies' faux "war on women", that they, apparently, bought into?
OK, I'll bite. Now, what was Costas bloviating over? The "culture" of guns? Who, with a TV remote, access to a 6 pack, and Domino's at the front door doesn't know these facts: 1) guns are legal in the USA 2) there are restirctions to purchase them, needing to pass a background check (this was pout in place to keep known "bad guys" from buying guns) 3) BAD PEOPLE use guns in violent crime.
If Bobby Boy Wonder wanted to simply comment on the "culture" of violence, why didn't he mention all those nice, warm, fuzzy computer games, that are glorified and continually promoted on TV? Seems to me there is more voilence in those than in any 10 slasher movies. Sorry, but "fantasy" and "reality" shows no difference. Violence against people is violence, no matter how you slice or dice it (sorry, but NO reference to slasher films). The only difference between these games and real life is that real life doesn't come with a reset button.
Belcher acquired his handgun LEGALLY. He passed the required background check. We also have the obligatory "he was a good kid; nice to me and was quiet" interview responses. The "system" did not fail. It's obvious that he had some internal physological issues that surfaced after the fact. Either that or I can't wait to see the billion dollar suit filed against the Chiefs and the NFL for their "knowledge of and failure to properly treat/counsel" him.
If this is a "fallacy" , why then are there @ 20,000 gun laws on the books across the country right now. Why make it 20,001? The onky way it makes any sense is if this last law is a FEDERAL law mandating stiff jail time (100% MUST be served), to go on top of the committed crime itself. Let the mental midgets commit a house break in, usually 2-5 yrs, but be caught with a gun. That'll indescretion will cost him 10 more years. It'll make him think twice about that TV, DVD, and stereo quipment, I'll guarandamntee it.
Let's revisit this mythical War on Women. What war? Last I knew,m contraceptives were covered on 99.9999% of insurance plans. There is a co-pay involved, the amount varies from carrier to carrier. Thgere is no legislation pending anywhere that would restict or cut off govt funding for contraceptives. Ah! but here's the rub.... apparently women like Fluke, going to school to make $25,000/year (the new "rich") need to have FREE contraceptives. After all, can't spend $3000 out of pocket for 4 years for it. Need to have to pay for those adult beverages, Happy Hours, frat parties, and Spring break vacations. Having been there, this stuff costs a whole lot more than this $3000 over 4 years. Anyone thinking she or her fellow students live pious lifestyles is absolutely crazy.
Abortion? Go for it! Between that and gay marriage, in a few generations libbies will probably just about erradicate themselves out of existance. My rub is that I don't want MY tax dollars being spent on a glorified form of birth control. That horse left the barn when the irresponsible Horizontal Rumba was done. Sorry, if the guy doesn't bring his party hat to the event, the hostess NEEDS to be taking contraceptives. God knows that abstinence is NOT the answer, even though it's 1000% guaranteed. Why force something like "responsibility" on someone with no respect for themselves? Rape and incest are exceptions to this. Do whatever you need to do for the victim, as they never asked for the event to happen.
I'd just as soon stick to the firearms issue if it's all the same to you. And I guess you simply won't accept the fact that a genuine conservative (which I am by the way) can be in favor of sensible firearms control legislation that will address issues such as what I have posted (ad nauseum in this thread) states with lax gun laws being the principal source (which they are) of firearms in the hands of criminals.
Obviously we can't ban the criminal. Where would we start, using Belcher as an example? And, why are there 20,000+ gun laws already on the books in this country? What would your "law" be, seeing that you don't advocate banning guns, or takling away our rights to buy/own one? I'll assure you that anything you may come up with, not including my hit 'em with a stiff FEDERAL sentence on top of their sentence (100% MUST be served) will make inroads, and isn't included in this yarn ball of 20,000 laws already in place. Bottom line is that if a criminal wants to commit a crime using a gun, he will. Nothing's going to stop him except for a bullet from someone else trying to stop him. If a human miscreant like the debris that shot up the theater in Colorado, or the mental midgets at Columbine, wants to do what they did while having no prior ILLEGAL activity to FORCE law enforcement to stop them and take him out of circulation, guess what? They, too, will do it. Good luck coming up with some kind of mental evaluation means test that doesn't violate my rights so you can divine who should or can buy a gun.
Sorry, but using that fave libbie word: FAIRNESS, no one can possibly trample 98% of American's legal rights for the 2% criminal element. (Hey! Why not tax the living bejeesus out of them, like the Dems want to do to the "rich" 2%? That's "fair" too!) Folks will argue all day that there is no direct link between video game violence and real world violence. especially in the aftermath of the Colorado theater shooting. The Gomer dressed like in the movie? Then we can ban all violence in movies, and get those folks riled up, especially in the aftermath of the Colorado theater shooting. That Gomer dressed like people in the movie? Sheer coincidence!
Next, we'll go after that neat item called domestic violence. Problem is, even if we "Feel", "believe", or "know" that X will do something, we can't detain them until they actually do or break another law. I know! When filing for legal separation or to get an order of protective custody, all gun owners, both sides MUST surrender their weapons. Will that work out for you?
But, we first need to define your law: going against guns or weapons? A .38 Special is one thing, but have you any idea of the damage a "spork" can cause in the hands of a severely agitated ADD kid? My God! We're talking hit mac & cheese everywhere, low level burns that will cause millions in medical and psychological damages. Where does it end?