Costas uses the Jevon Belcher tregedy to preach gun control at halftime........

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    It's too easy to get a gun, there are too many guns in the United States! Guns don't kill people, people kill people, right? But they kill more people with guns!

     




         LOL!!!! How are things in socialist Californiia?? How are things in that wonderfully governed city of San Francisco?? LOL!!! Why are so many Californians and California businesses moving to Texas??

     

           

     

     
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    Re: Costas uses the Jevon Belcher tregedy to preach gun control at halftime........

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    Look at the gun violence in Mexico; look at the gun violence in the southside of Chicago; 70% and 90% respectively of those racists voted for Obama. It is obvious we have a culture/ values problem.




    I'm surprised it took one of you this long to pull the race card. Was it "culture and values" when the Colorado shooting happen? What about Columbine, Giffords shooting, Norway shooter or the Oklahoma bomber? No? Right....

     

    P.S... Mexico's crime mostly comes from the Cartel. The Cartel gets money, power, weapons and resources thanks to America's War on Drugs! In fact, the Cartel buys guns from the U.S. it's so easy!

    Typical...-_-




    Not to be cavalier about those massacres which were perpetrated by nuts, the "everyday" killings that I referred to are what passes for "normal" these days. We need some public hangings to " encourage"  people to behave

     
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         Here are some details involving the shooting: http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/410455/20121203/nfl-murder-suicide-jovan-belcher-kassandra-perkins-deadspin-alcohol.htm

         None of this is gospel, at this point. But, this could be another Chris Benoit type event, in which drugs, alcohol, and possibly a head injury played a role. I read in another article that the victim was shot 9 times.  

     
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    Re: Costas uses the Jevon Belcher tregedy to preach gun control at halftime........

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    It's too easy to get a gun, there are too many guns in the United States! Guns don't kill people, people kill people, right? But they kill more people with guns!

     




         LOL!!!! How are things in socialist Californiia?? How are things in that wonderfully governed city of San Francisco?? LOL!!! Why are so many Californians and California businesses moving to Texas??

     

           

     



    Big talk for 24th ranked state economy in the U.S.

     
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    Re: Costas uses the Jevon Belcher tregedy to preach gun control at halftime........

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    Look at the gun violence in Mexico; look at the gun violence in the southside of Chicago; 70% and 90% respectively of those racists voted for Obama. It is obvious we have a culture/ values problem.




    I'm surprised it took one of you this long to pull the race card. Was it "culture and values" when the Colorado shooting happen? What about Columbine, Giffords shooting, Norway shooter or the Oklahoma bomber? No? Right....

     

    P.S... Mexico's crime mostly comes from the Cartel. The Cartel gets money, power, weapons and resources thanks to America's War on Drugs! In fact, the Cartel buys guns from the U.S. it's so easy!

    Typical...-_-




    Not to be cavalier about those massacres which were perpetrated by nuts, the "everyday" killings that I referred to are what passes for "normal" these days. We need some public hangings to " encourage"  people to behave




    Would you knock it off, there are Canadians on this board. They're going to think that all Americans are as silly as you.

    I'm telling you guys, I don't know why you guys hate the Taliban and other Muslim extremists so much. If you guys had your way, this would be the Christian version of Saudi Arabia.

     
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    Re: Costas uses the Jevon Belcher tregedy to preach gun control at halftime........

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    It's too easy to get a gun, there are too many guns in the United States! Guns don't kill people, people kill people, right? But they kill more people with guns!

     




         LOL!!!! How are things in socialist Californiia?? How are things in that wonderfully governed city of San Francisco?? LOL!!! Why are so many Californians and California businesses moving to Texas??

     

           

     



    Big talk for 24th ranked state economy in the U.S.




         Really? What's California's ranking??

     
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     Even more significant, there are far fewer incidents of guns used in domestic or workplace violence.



    Ahhh, pro..... Canada having 1/10th the population of the US would have inherently fewer incidents... don't you think?

    Would you like another dozen reasons why Canada would have less?

    sigh



    The population size is not related to percentage of incidents. America has the most gun ownerships in the world by far. It's gun homicide % is not as high as some other countries(Venezuala for example) but it is much much higher than Canada's. The year I looked up the US was the 28th worst behind even the West Bank and Gaza strip.




    He didn't express it as a "percentage", did he?

    Canada is no prize when it comes to homicide rate. There are numerous factors that make the two situations very different.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

     

     
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    Good for Costas.  I'm a gun owner and avid hunter myself, but the US needs more sensible gun control.  It's just too easy for anyone to get a handgun. There's way more gun crime in the US than any other civilized first-world nation. The reason is because guns are too easy to get. 

     



    Canada has much looser gun laws has no gun violence. It is a culture issue not a legal issue. Canada has slightly stricter national policy but the local gun laws in America are much stricter on the whole. 


     
    I've lived in both countries.  Believe me, the handgun laws are much stricter here.  Many large capacity guns are completely illegal, and if you own a handgun you can't take it anywhere that is not specified on your permit to carry it.  If you want to take your pistol to the gun club to shoot it, you need to have a permit that allows you to take it to that specific gun club.  If you take it anywhere else you can be arrested. 

    I lived in Massachusetts for years, one of the states with tough (by American standards) gun laws.  It was quite easy to get a permit to carry concealed if you wanted one.  I never bothered to get one, but my wife had hers.  




    Well, it isn't easy to get a permit to carry concealed in Mass anymore.

     
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    Many  countries  throughout  the  world, like  Japan, England, Switzerland, France, Sweden  and  many  others  have  much  stricter  gun  control  laws  than  the  U.S.  And  the  results  are  indisputable.  In  1980,  Japan  which  banned  hand  guns,  had  8  murders  by  handgun.  The  U.S.  in  1980  had  over  16,000.  And  in  the  last  few  years, Americans  murder  each  other  with  handguns  at  a  rate  of  about  34,000  a  year.  Do  your  own  research.  The  point  is  having  stricter  and  more  reasonable  gun  laws  doesn't  eliminate  murder.  It  just  severely  reduces the  number  of  murders.  And  total  population  numbers  are  not  a  good  argument  against  gun  control.  Just  take  a  look  at  the  percentages  of  populations  that  are  murdered  by  handgun.  There's  a  reason almost  all  industrialized  nations  have  stricter  gun  laws.  They  work.  But  they  don't  eliminate  murder  altogether.  Guns  are  a  big  money  making  industry  in  the  U.S.    That's  why  there  will  never  be  sensible  hand  gun  legislation.  Our  politicians  are  all  bought  and  paid  for.  The  other  dynamic  is  that  unless  an  individual  has  personally  suffered  because  of  gun  violence, they  don't  see  it  as  a  big  problem.  They  just  choose  to  live  in  their  insulated  world. 




    The global rate of homicides is 7.6 per 100k. The US rate is 4.2. Not too bad a price to pay for freedom.

     

     
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    "It's the dang liberals fault."  LOL!

    Everyone needs to own a gun to protect hisself from all the other idiots that own guns for "protection." 

    How many people have you heard of getting into gun fights at their home at the precise time it was broken into?  Most people aren't home when their house gets broken into and if they are how many have the actual balls to shoot the intruder?  I work with a guy here in Texas that caught someone breaking into his trailer in his drive way.  He confronted the guy with his shot gun and in the end got his own arm blown off after a struggle ensued.  This happened in Watauga,  Texas about 2 years ago.  You could probably find the story still.

     
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    my response to Bob Costas is simple.....if the girlfriend owned a gun as well, she might have been able to defend herself and may be alive today.



    Perfect - a gun fight with the baby and baby's grandmother right there to observe.  Clearly the solution.




    Do you think she would have had as much of a chance against an NFL LB with a knife or her fists instead of a gun?

     
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    Oh by the way, I've heard every story about why people should own guns.  Other than hunting, they're all pretty weak.

     
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    There definitely are cultural issues.  Bob Costa's statement would be a non-event in most countries, because in most advanced Western nations the culture supports placing limits on weapons designed primarily to make it easy to kill people.  It's seen as common sense. In America, however, a statement such as Costa's causes a firestorm precisely because America has a culture in which owning weapons designed primarily to kill people is considered a god-given right for the simple reason that many Americans either believe they may need to kill someone someday (personal defense) or just enjoy the feeling of power that comes from "packing heat."  That is a cultural problem . . . in evidence all over American this morning. 

    It is not surprising at all that such a culture results in a society with far more gun violence than in just about any other highly industrialized society. I agree it is not the lack of gun control laws that is the real problem. The real problem is a culture that makes the enactment of gun control laws almost impossible.

     




    Apples/oranges. Comparing the demographics of the US to Canada or Western Europe is absurd.

     
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    It's too easy to get a gun, there are too many guns in the United States! Guns don't kill people, people kill people, right? But they kill more people with guns!

     




         LOL!!!! How are things in socialist Californiia?? How are things in that wonderfully governed city of San Francisco?? LOL!!! Why are so many Californians and California businesses moving to Texas??

     

           

     



    Big talk for 24th ranked state economy in the U.S.




         Really? What's California's ranking??



    12th...-_-...Mass and NY are 6 & 7th

     

    P.S...8 of the bottom 10 States voted for Mitt Romney, but we Liberals are the takers, right? -_-

     
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    Legalizing drugs would probably have many times more the impact on homicide that tougher gun laws would.

     
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    Good for Costas.  I'm a gun owner and avid hunter myself, but the US needs more sensible gun control.  It's just too easy for anyone to get a handgun. There's way more gun crime in the US than any other civilized first-world nation. The reason is because guns are too easy to get. 

     




    How dare you say that. How are the military wannabees going to dream about saving the country from the commies if they can't stroke their guns? Oh wait the commies are gone. Maybe the Canadians will invade.

     
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    Good for Costas.  I'm a gun owner and avid hunter myself, but the US needs more sensible gun control.  It's just too easy for anyone to get a handgun. There's way more gun crime in the US than any other civilized first-world nation. The reason is because guns are too easy to get. 

     



    And even easier if you're a crook who doesnt follow the law anyway, and judging by Costas' demeanor, he was proposing the idea that there should be no guns AT ALL. That means no guns for law abiding people like us, because most criminals dont follow the law or get their guns legally--by default. Therefore, more legislation keeps ME from getting one, but not so much them--which is what gun control is REALLY all about.




    What you conviniently leave out is that a lot of the illegal guns sold are funnelled through legal sales in states with lax laws

     
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    Good for Costas.  I'm a gun owner and avid hunter myself, but the US needs more sensible gun control.  It's just too easy for anyone to get a handgun. There's way more gun crime in the US than any other civilized first-world nation. The reason is because guns are too easy to get. 

     




    How dare you say that. How are the military wannabees going to dream about saving the country from the commies if they can't stroke their guns? Oh wait the commies are gone. Maybe the Canadians will invade.



    =D

    You laugh now, but Red Dawn is a warning!

     
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    Re: Costas uses the Jevon Belcher tregedy to preach gun control at halftime........

    If there were no guns at all, hey wait the world had a time like that and they still butchered each other, he could just get a knife and do it that way. Costas you are not as important as you think you are.

     
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    Good for Costas.  I'm a gun owner and avid hunter myself, but the US needs more sensible gun control.  It's just too easy for anyone to get a handgun. There's way more gun crime in the US than any other civilized first-world nation. The reason is because guns are too easy to get. 

     




    How dare you say that. How are the military wannabees going to dream about saving the country from the commies if they can't stroke their guns? Oh wait the commies are gone. Maybe the Canadians will invade.



    =D

    You laugh now, but Red Dawn is a warning!




    So now you're going to tell me who and how someone is going to invade us right?

    Red dawn is a classic idiot movie. Hundreds of professional soldiers can't hit a group of kids with automatic weapons while they kill with every shot and never reload.

     
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    Good for Costas.  I'm a gun owner and avid hunter myself, but the US needs more sensible gun control.  It's just too easy for anyone to get a handgun. There's way more gun crime in the US than any other civilized first-world nation. The reason is because guns are too easy to get. 

     




    How dare you say that. How are the military wannabees going to dream about saving the country from the commies if they can't stroke their guns? Oh wait the commies are gone. Maybe the Canadians will invade.



    No, no, no - it's not the threat of foreign invasion; it's to protect us all from the federal government.  Of course, no one has ever explained to me how all those privately held firearms are going to stack up against, oh, say the 82nd Airborne or a Marine Expeditionary Unit.

     
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    Legalizing drugs would probably have many times more the impact on homicide that tougher gun laws would.




    Rephrase this, I don't know who's side your on.

     
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    Good for Costas.  I'm a gun owner and avid hunter myself, but the US needs more sensible gun control.  It's just too easy for anyone to get a handgun. There's way more gun crime in the US than any other civilized first-world nation. The reason is because guns are too easy to get. 

     




    How dare you say that. How are the military wannabees going to dream about saving the country from the commies if they can't stroke their guns? Oh wait the commies are gone. Maybe the Canadians will invade.



    =D

    You laugh now, but Red Dawn is a warning!




    So now you're going to tell me who and how someone is going to invade us right?

    Red dawn is a classic idiot movie. Hundreds of professional soldiers can't hit a group of kids with automatic weapons while they kill with every shot and never reload.



    I was being sarcastic.

     

     
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    Good for Costas.  I'm a gun owner and avid hunter myself, but the US needs more sensible gun control.  It's just too easy for anyone to get a handgun. There's way more gun crime in the US than any other civilized first-world nation. The reason is because guns are too easy to get. 

     



    And even easier if you're a crook who doesnt follow the law anyway, and judging by Costas' demeanor, he was proposing the idea that there should be no guns AT ALL. That means no guns for law abiding people like us, because most criminals dont follow the law or get their guns legally--by default. Therefore, more legislation keeps ME from getting one, but not so much them--which is what gun control is REALLY all about.




    What you conviniently leave out is that a lot of the illegal guns sold are funnelled through legal sales in states with lax laws



    That, sir, happens to be the principal source of guns in the possession of criminals in this country - legally purchased in large quantities in states like Texas and Virginia and then black-marketed in states like NY, CT and MA.

     
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