In response to 49Patriots's comment:
In response to AZPAT's comment:
Cultural problems: Abortion, legalization of marijuana, violence in movies and on TV, provacative dressing of young ladies (especially HS kids), more "takers" than "givers" (and society being OK with it), acceptance/multiple "another chance" for DUI (Hey! EVERYONE does it!)
Which ones do you want to get rid of? Or, is "culture", or what should be acceptable in society, dependent on what you determine it to be?
Noe, be careful! Some of these have been legislated, sort of like the 2nd amendment. Ought to be interesting.
When are you guys going to secede?!! God, take Oklahoma, Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia and all those other clown states with you! Funny, the most advocate pro-gun Americans are usually Right-Wingers, but you list Liberal beliefs as the cause of gun violence.
Abortions is no one's business, if you don't think it's right, don't do it! No one is force you to have an abortion! It's a choice between a woman and her doctor, not you and your bible and Authoritarian style of government!
Marijuana is no more lethal to your brain than Alcohol, why don't we criminalize Alcohol again while we're at it, huh? How many times have you heard that a guy was so high from Marijuana that he started a fight in a bar...or drove high and killed someone? Why is it illegal?
Violence in movies and TV? Yeah, like Football? Should football be illegal?
Provacative style of dress by young ladies? Dude, we're you born in the 50s or something? It's no one's business what a woman wants to wear! Funny how you're fighting for your second ammendment rights, but you're all for taking away someone's first ammenment rights.
More takers than givers? The 47% of Americans who don't pay taxes consists of the elderly, veterans and people who manage to take advantage of tax breaks like child tax deductions. Funny how when coperations take advantage of loopholes they're wise. When average joes do it they're takers. The very few who don't pay taxes because they're poor live mostly in the South, Red States pay less in taxes than Blue states! The North East and West Coast keep America a float! The rest of you, red states, are the takers around here!
It's too easy to get a gun, there are too many guns in the United States! Guns don't kill people, people kill people, right? But they kill more people with guns!
Oh, where to start......
God, take Oklahoma, Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia and all those other clown states with you!
We'll address this on a tad bit later.
Abortions is no one's business, if you don't think it's right, don't do it!
Can never accuse you of paying attention to the recent news and election, can we? Hear about the mythical War On Women? How about restricting/cutting off funds for Planned Parenthood? They're not bellyaching about condoms or The Pill. I agree with yiur ascertion, though: don't like it, don't get one. But, my problem is when it's now a federal entitlement program, and is used as birth control. Totally eliminates personal responsibility after the fact. Supportes whine about how much $ the tax payer will "save" when terminating an "unwanted pregnancy" (kind of impersonal, don't you think?) I'd be perfectly happy if the fed govt (ie: MY tax dollars) would be forbidden from going that route. Need I remind you that a condom costs significantly less than $1? Now, YOU tell me which is more cost efficient. I'll wait.
Marijuana is no more lethal to your brain than Alcohol
It impairs judgement and reflexes. Yes, there are instances where driving high has killed people... innocent people. I believe it's called DUI, with nteh "I" standing for "influence". Check it out. Banning alcohol? Again, Sparky, reqd some history on Prohibition. Do you really suggest that America would welcome a retun to all that violence? If banned, I'll get worried when an army of stoners organize to march, er, stumble, on Washington DC. I've got 4100 that says most would never ID their right from left feet.
Violence in movies and TV? Yeah, like Football? Should football be illegal?
Typical libbie response. It's either "it's not as bad as...", or, in some weird way of thinking, "that's viiolent too!". Here's a solid clue: NO ONE'S DYING IN FOOTBALL GAMES. Is that simple enough? Watch the ads for these "games". I don't see anything but violence in the trailers. In fact, it's glorified, as being THE reason to buy them. Sorry, no "Reset" button in life.
Provacative style of dress by young ladies? Dude, we're you born in the 50s or something?
Why, yes I was born in the 50's. If you think that dress has absolutely NOTHING to do with rape or sexual assault, you're loonier than that nut running Iran. I guess you believe it's a good thing to send your 15 year old daughter out the door for school, or the movies, or the mall looking 25. Go by a high school on a nice warm day either before or after school, and it'll look amazingly like a Adult Video Movie convention. Dressing this way DOES draw attention to themselves. Some good, some not so good. But, I'd guess that you'd feel that if the gal was totally fabric free in a park, that was OK, as she has a first amendment right to do that. Sorry, but check up on local laws regarding this behavior. BTW, I never said I'd ban prevocative dressing. My reference goes to "culture".
The 47% of Americans who don't pay taxes consists of the elderly, veterans and people who manage to take advantage of tax breaks like child tax deductions.
Tsk! Tsk! Tsk! You forgot to add govt pensioners, and SSI recipients. There's also welfare, extended unemployment, and food stamps. Then, there's Medicare and Medicaid. But, the 47% that Romney and you reference are those folks that would never ever vote for him or any Republican. As you state, check out the blue states. Funny how they are all operating under huge deficits, eh? Yet this is a good thing, right? California has/had the 7th biggest economy in teh WORLD, yet it's $65B in debt, with no way out. Tax payers are leaving the place. There isn't enough tax money to pay the entitlements, especially for those illegal, er, "undocumented" aliens. As I said before, I can't wait to see what happens when the money runs out. Greece, Spain, Portugal, here we come.
The very few who don't pay taxes because they're poor live mostly in the South
Interesting.... I guess you never heard or were exposed to places like Roxbury, Roslindale, or Mattapan, eh? How do you explain "inner city problems", or is that a myth too? Bad schools? Underperforming students? Most kids from single parent "families"? Yessir! Only in those vile red states! LMFAO!!!!
The North East and West Coast keep America a float! The rest of you, red states, are the takers around here!
Now, I have to weriously doubt if you know what you're talking about or if you took Mommy's or Daddy's keyboard without permission. Sparky, the "red states" aren't driving this $16 TRILLION deficit. (That's a number with 12 zeros to the left of the decimal point.) I never knew that Alabama, Mississippi, and Florida are the main culprit os this! here I'm thinkingb that the majority of states with Republican administrations have things like lower unemployment, higher tax revenue, and better fiscal control of budgets, despite not getting the same money from teh Fed Govt! Better fiscal control means spending wisely, not handing our gobs or it, with no strings attached. If you think that $16 TRILLION in debt is a GOOD thing, then I suggest you go to a bookstore and buy Deficits For Dummies right now.
Funny how when coperations take advantage of loopholes they're wise.
Proof you haven't got a clue.... Now, please tell us how these loopholes came into being? Again, be careful..... Libbies have controlled the Congress for a whole lot longer than evil Republicans have. Either they created these loopholes, or have done nothing to close them or get rid of them. They are there for whatever reason(s) they were created, mostly as part of the give and take called "government action". Which side of the fence do you fall on? Why, it's impossible for any self respecting libbie to want to keep more of what they "make", right? (Self respecting libbie.... sort of like jumbo shrimp?). If the law allows for using loopholes, why not? It's good business practice. BTW, this "tax the rich" garbage is funnier than all get out. Do you honestly, truly, and actually believe that these millionaires and billionaires aren't planning, or have ale\ready done so, to protect more of their income? If not, again, you fooling yourself. Hear what the COSTCO board of directors just did for themselves? The chairman, ou remember him, advocated raising taxes on the rich at the DNC in August. Gotta make them pay their fair share, right? Well, funny how the board voted themselves a nice stock dividend to be paid before the end of the year, so they can pay LESS taxes on it. 12% vs 8%. Who's the dummy? Or, more appropriately, who's the hypocrite? You see, libbies really don't want to pay in more than they should either. After all, it's all about the money, right?
Now, to address the first point you raised. Yes, it's plain to see that you expose a typical libble mentality: if you don't agree, leave. Funny how Libbies like to declare themselves as being "tolerant". Sorry, Sparky, it doesn't work that way. I have a right to bear arms. It's that simple. Deal with it. Gun violence can be dealt with more effectively if there were stronger deterents in place, NOT excuses for the bad behavior that caused the violence (sorry, but I taking a page out of the libbie book of socially excused violence).
Character wise, libbies hate it when there's somwething they can't control. And better yet, what's going to happen when the money runs out and the music stops, when no one is left to suppoert the takers. Rome dies this way, too, by internal decay. Not a comforting thought.
