Re: COULD IT BE THAT SANDUSKY AND PATERNO WERE RAILROADED (UNLIKE THE SYRACUSE ASSISTANT COACH)?
posted at 11/19/2011 3:50 PM EST
In Response to Re: COULD IT BE THAT SANDUSKY AND PATERNO WERE RAILROADED (UNLIKE THE SYRACUSE ASSISTANT COACH)?
In Response to Re: COULD IT BE THAT SANDUSKY AND PATERNO WERE RAILROADED (UNLIKE THE SYRACUSE ASSISTANT COACH)? : Where is your moral or civic duty? If you personaly knew a criminal complisent in such a serious crime as these, even if it intaled being part of the cover up it is ok to stay out of it. Reporting the crime to a superior instead of the criminal authoritiies is NOT sufficient. Were you or your child the victom, would you see it as the same? What makes anyone else's child any less valuble? It's getting to the point that it is obvious that you (C.C.) are lacking in the values nessisary to be part of a cival society. You continue to blur the lines of justice and moral duty in the same maner a defence atty. would do to win an argument or case at any cost. The cost being a loss of justice to all of society. This my friend is and has led to the downfall of all societies, makeing you a part of the problem and not one of those fighting to stop and repair the damage already done. You wouldnt happen to be a defence att. and if so " calling it your job does not make it right". Hundreds of years of cival abuse to citizens of this country have and are being reversed, but not yet so for the children, who speaks for the children who suffer silently every day of their lives. This argument has and continues to disgust and make me sick, but I will continue to speak for what is right and just in the hopes of influenceing even just one more citizen to act on his duty because it is my duty to do so.
Posted by part-timer
timer, if nothing else... i keep it real! u choose to keep ignoring my words to substitute your agenda and ideology. look, i run a marketing contracting business, if someone came to me in the same scenario and told me some stranger was doing that or some casual employee, in a hearbeat i would call the cops or expect them to do it with me. i worked as marketing chief for a company once and i found out a guy who i had goitten close to and who was by far the best and hardest worker we had was partying off-duty with an underaged intern at his place with other adults. using your logic i should have called the cops. in the real world, there are always other factors involved. minute i found out, i confronted him about it. minute he admitted to it, i fired him on the spot and kept maximal distance from him, essentially terminating the relationship. my MAIN concern was about avoiding any possible lawsuits from her if at some time in the future something went wrong and she or her parents blamed me or us for the off-premise situation or she tried the sexual harrassment card. did the same thing 10 years ago when a bud sent questionable sexually inappropriate emails to an underling. in both cases, i did a report to the owner/boss to follow it up. in the first case, law enforcement was immediately called up and the guy was eventually arrested. in the second case, we just fired him and banned him from ever coming back to the store. no need for cops.
so dont give me your crapp about not having a moral compass. i'm just being real about life from a business/ownership-management context. making these decisions when there is really no financial or bigger pic risks involved is very EASY. at a pennstate,they do have to factor in the $85M that benefits the greater good and all the kids and parents in that community per example plus as a governemt-owned institution, they must factor in the political implications to benefactors, the public good and so forth. also about the consequences to recruiting and the feds and others using it as a pretense to get rid of jopa and bringing in prying outsider eyes to look under all the rocks.
jopa should have been looking at the possible legal risks to him down the road if that kid decided to sue. that should have been the overriding reason to CYA or cover his buttt and legacy. yep yep, but how about the safety of all the kids in the perfect world utopia.. look, if it happened in my house, yes i would respond like u. in a business with me as the owner/boss, not so much!
if bill parcells or BELICHICK found out scott paoli was accused of something like what sandusky was accused of when he was with the pats, i'm certain it wouldnt be so open and shut. first of, both guys live by the "keep everything in-house" ethic. y didnt we hear about bb harassing underlings with the giants and openly having affairs with secretaries while there and even with the jets (as did parcells). second, paoli is married to parcells' daughter and is the dad of his grandkids. if bb immediately pulls that plug there are long term consequences far removed from just the pats and football. perhaps some of his bad behavior gets leaked too. comprende? if this stuff or escalation is clearly new to both of them and doesnt seem in his character, y would they call the cops and destroy the organization's brand based on an innuendo?
first i would ask if he actually SAW something (i dont get the feeling that mccreary did.. period!).. second would ask in depth if he literally had the kid up against the wall with his junk actually inserted)... if the answer is unequivocally YES, i would have immediately called sandusky to my office and fired him (if technically an employee), tell him that he was banned (if he werent an employee) and what the next steps would be and do all this with a witness or two in the room plus the cops (who i would have contacted before inviting him to the office). after he left and was arrested or couldnt plausibly deny the charges, i would have then followed up with a call to the the higher ups at the university of what my decision was and outlined the entire process and scenario. my only issue is that i do not get the vibe that the choice was this clear based on the info jopa got from mccreary.
if i'm proven wrong, i will apologize. if its as hazy as i think, jopa should sue the university and win.. period! still my friend, its often not as clear as u think. i have a bigger beeef with jim boeheim at syracuse than i do jopa. boeheim clearly had a monste rin his midst and even after the facts come out he immediately goes all in to the side of the monster as opposed to the subordinate EMPLOYEES who also worked there who were likely the VICTIMS!