Could we have another 11 - 5 team NOT make the playoffs?

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    Could we have another 11 - 5 team NOT make the playoffs?

    Imagine..   or rather it is a very possible reality, an 8-8 team will make the playoffs in the AFC and an 8 - 7 - 1 team could make the playoffs in the NFC while a 10 - 6, or possibly an 11 - 5, NFC team stays at home!  Just goes to show being in a crappy division can be more important than being a good team.  Happened to the Pats in 2008 and may happen to the Arizona Cardinals this season.  What's wrong with this picture?

     
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    Mad about these Cardinals. They desever to be in the playoffs. most likely they are out.

     
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    Re: Could we have another 11 - 5 team NOT make the playoffs?

    In response to Cloudyandrain's comment:

    Mad about these Cardinals. They desever to be in the playoffs. most likely they are out.



    I think you are right. Even if they beat SF next week (assuming SF beats atl tonight) they would have to hope NO loses at home to TB.

     
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    Was talking about that last night - Cardinals miss playoffs when an 8 win team gets in. Sad part is NO NFC NORTH team deserves to be in.....

     
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    Re: Could we have another 11 - 5 team NOT make the playoffs?

    NFC North (and even the NFC East, really) is littered with mediocrity. Granted, the Packers would likely be no worse than 10-6 with a healthy Rodgers, but their record is their record. It's a shame that an 8-8 team might get in while an 11-5 and a 9-7 (Philly) could miss the playoffs.

     
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    it may not be fair. If they changed it to the top 6 records in each conference - there would be a chance that a "division winner" might NOT make the playoffs - and then said fans would cry wolf too.



    Talk is to add 2 more teams and get rid of byes for top 2 seeds. Issue there is 7 and 9 teams could get in...

     
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    Just put Seattle in now.  This is all a moot point. And even then, it will take any AFC team's best game just to hold with them.

    Hate to admit it, but they are clearly the team to beat in the NFL.  That's why it's going to be so sweet when the Pats beat them.

     
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    it may not be fair. If they changed it to the top 6 records in each conference - there would be a chance that a "division winner" might NOT make the playoffs - and then said fans would cry wolf too.



    Like the 7 - 9 Seahawks in 2010 over 10 - 6 Giants and Bucs teams!

     
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    In response to PhatVirgin's comment:

    it may not be fair. If they changed it to the top 6 records in each conference - there would be a chance that a "division winner" might NOT make the playoffs - and then said fans would cry wolf too.



    Like the 7 - 9 Seahawks in 2010 over 10 - 6 Giants and Bucs teams!



    That was crazy.  Forgot about that.

     
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    I have the Cardinals rated higher than the Patriots.  That's not just any 11-5 -- they had to play Seattle twice and San Francisco twice. 

     
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    In response to PhatVirgin's comment:

    it may not be fair. If they changed it to the top 6 records in each conference - there would be a chance that a "division winner" might NOT make the playoffs - and then said fans would cry wolf too.



    Talk is to add 2 more teams and get rid of byes for top 2 seeds. Issue there is 7 and 9 teams could get in...



    If they added 2 more teams per conference, that would mean no more first round byes?



    Yep....

     
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    Re: Could we have another 11 - 5 team NOT make the playoffs?

    In response to agcsbill's comment:

    Imagine..   or rather it is a very possible reality, an 8-8 team will make the playoffs in the AFC and an 8 - 7 - 1 team could make the playoffs in the NFC while a 10 - 6, or possibly an 11 - 5, NFC team stays at home!  Just goes to show being in a crappy division can be more important than being a good team.  Happened to the Pats in 2008 and may happen to the Arizona Cardinals this season.  What's wrong with this picture?




    I wouldn't be surprised. The NFL playoff wild cards are designed to keep fans of mediocre teams happy not to reward the 6 teams with the best records.

     
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    Re: Could we have another 11 - 5 team NOT make the playoffs?

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    Imagine..   or rather it is a very possible reality, an 8-8 team will make the playoffs in the AFC and an 8 - 7 - 1 team could make the playoffs in the NFC while a 10 - 6, or possibly an 11 - 5, NFC team stays at home!  Just goes to show being in a crappy division can be more important than being a good team.  Happened to the Pats in 2008 and may happen to the Arizona Cardinals this season.  What's wrong with this picture?



    Nothing.....

    All ya gotta do is take care of business in your division. Look at the 'Boys...... 8-7 overall, 5-0 in their division. Win next week and they're in at a stellar 9-7, but 6-0 in their division. (Seattle at 7-9 took their division, winning all 6 division games).

    If divisions didn't matter, we'd have only two of them in each conference, or only two conferences with no divisions. Win your division and you're guarandamnteed a playoff spot. Otherwise, take your chances. YOU figure out who you can lose to.

    The 2008 Pats lost all teh tie breakers in the 3 way tie for 1st. Why? Because they didn't take care of business in their division. It was their own fault. Can't blame the league, schedulers, or the rules for that.

     
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    In response to ccsjl's comment:

    Was talking about that last night - Cardinals miss playoffs when an 8 win team gets in. Sad part is NO NFC NORTH team deserves to be in.....



    Hmmmm...... going 2-3 in their division AND having Seattle and SF in it is tough. Talk to the Orioles and Blue Jays about playing in a division with the Sox, Rays, and Yankees.

    All ya gotta do is win. 

     
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    Was talking about that last night - Cardinals miss playoffs when an 8 win team gets in. Sad part is NO NFC NORTH team deserves to be in.....



    They lost to: New Orleans, SF, Seattle, and Philthydelphia, all probable playoff bound teams (Eagles may not, depending how the 'Boys come out to play). Then, they lost to the Rams.

    Bottom line: they didn't take care of business when they had the chance to.

     
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    In response to PhatVirgin's comment:

    it may not be fair. If they changed it to the top 6 records in each conference - there would be a chance that a "division winner" might NOT make the playoffs - and then said fans would cry wolf too.



    Please tell us why the NFL has divisions again? If not taking division winners to the playoffs, why have divisions?

    Get rid of them! Them, every team would have to play every conference team every year. The 16th game would be a cross over to the other conference, playing their peer based on final season ending positions/standings.  Problem solved! Top 6 teams make it, the top two getting the byes. Same/same for seeding.

     
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    One final thought...... If we can't have double digit win teams NOT make the playoffs, can we keep non-double digit win teams out?

    Figure that part out and get back to me.

     
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    Re: Could we have another 11 - 5 team NOT make the playoffs?

    In response to AZPAT's comment:

    In response to PhatVirgin's comment:

    it may not be fair. If they changed it to the top 6 records in each conference - there would be a chance that a "division winner" might NOT make the playoffs - and then said fans would cry wolf too.



    Please tell us why the NFL has divisions again? If not taking division winners to the playoffs, why have divisions?

    Get rid of them! Them, every team would have to play every conference team every year. The 16th game would be a cross over to the other conference, playing their peer based on final season ending positions/standings.  Problem solved! Top 6 teams make it, the top two getting the byes. Same/same for seeding.




    The NFL has divisions for several reasons. To promote rivalries and to keep the broadcast networks happy.

    Just follow the money

     
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    Re: Could we have another 11 - 5 team NOT make the playoffs?

    One way to lessen the chance of that happening is to say that you have to win 9 (or 10?) games to win a division title. If no one in the divison wins 9 (or 10 ?) games then there is a 3rd wild card team.

     
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    Re: Could we have another 11 - 5 team NOT make the playoffs?

    In response to portfolio1's comment:

    One way to lessen the chance of that happening is to say that you have to win 9 (or 10?) games to win a division title. If no one in the divison wins 9 (or 10 ?) games then there is a 3rd wild card team.




    And the NFL will worry that they'll lose viewers from an entire section of the country.

    Once again...follow the money

     
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