crable back home!
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Re: crable back home!
posted at 7/27/2010 8:52 PM EDT
Crable the fable, not very able, fell off the trainer's table, and all the kings horses and all the kind's men...huh?...buried him in the stable...huh?... -
Re: crable back home!
posted at 7/27/2010 9:30 PM EDT
"Go an the Jets post." Huh?"Do you not think they know what they are doing..."Are you Albert Breer? I recognize your writing style anywhere.In Response to Re: crable back home!:What a bunch of whiners on this post. You have no idea what the Pats are doing, so stop complaining. Go an the Jets post. Do you not think they know what they are doing, and if Crable is hurt or not what they want, they will get rid of him. Get a life!
Posted by boomerst3 -
Re: crable back home!
posted at 7/27/2010 10:43 PM EDT
In Response to Re: crable back home!:In Response to Re: crable back home! : Not according to the media reports today. I'm not saying BB is definitely doing that, only that it's a possibility. No matter what the scenario or reason, it doesn't look good for Crable.
Posted by carawaydj
it seems like there is a lot of confusion in the media regarding the active pup and the 80-man roster limit. if you google "active pup 80-man roster", you will find that half the results (this includes a lot of stories in the media) say that the player counts against the limit, and the other half say that the player doesn't count against the limit.
the most definitive link i've found is this one, which specifically addresses the rules regarding the active pup (rather than just mentioning the roster limit in the context of another story):
http://www.examiner.com/x-778-Houston-Texans-Examiner~y2009m7d28-Clarifying-NFL-rules-on-the-physically-unable-to-perform-PUP-list
to quote from it:The Active PUP is for players that have some form of injury that will prevent them from starting training camp.If placed on Active PUP, a player can rehab and participate in team meetings but cannot practice.
A player has to be placed on Active PUP before he begins training camp, so that's why you're seeing the stories popping up now.
A player on Active PUP can be removed from the list at any time during camp.
A player on Active PUP counts against the league mandated roster limit (currently 80).
And one of the most important rules, a player must be on Active PUP in order to be considered for Reserve PUP.
At the end of preseason, if an Active PUP player is still several weeks away from being able to play, the team may place him on Reserve PUP.
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Re: crable back home!
posted at 7/28/2010 2:12 AM EDT
"active pup players count against the 80-man roster limit. so bb isn't doing this to evaluate other players." ~bbobbo
bbobbo and ALL:
See bb~ what you and others are failing to see Is that Belichick certainly COULD be doing this for Shawn Crable's and the team's overall benefit...
HERE'S WHY:
The ACTIVE PUP:
~You ARE correct, In that when placed on the Active PUP, These players still DO count against the roster limit...But see, THAT Roster Limit IS 80 freakin' guys, and NOT The 53 Man Roster Limit that each NFL Team has as the maximum when the actual Regular Season begins...So sheez, WHO cares about Crable actually counting when it's 80 PLAYERS total?
~BUT now, There ARE benefits to placing Shawn Crable on The ACTIVE PUP right now:
#1- Can still go to ALL team meetings & team functions, He JUST CANNOT Practice himself...In otherwords, Possiibly saving Crable from a pointless injury occuring at a practice... I.E. Crable getting ALL the benefits of knowing WHAT's happening in schemes, filmwork, functions, and meetings, JUST not getting the potential to get hurt on some ridiculous freak random play in a practice.
#2- By placing Shawn Crable ON the PUP, Crable CAN get activated at ANY time whatsoever, UP until Week #6 of The Regular Season... So theoretically say Crable IS fine, But Belichick doesn't like the look and play of his other Outside Linebackers, OR 1 or more of those OTHER Outside Linebackers get injured themselves, OR IF and when Bill Belichick says, "Alright, we got through this training camp thing AND these pointless (and numerous) Preseason Games," Belichick can NOW "hedge his bets" on Crable NOT getting hurt, BY activating him at ANY time- Up until AND through Week #6 and/or at ANY time during the Preseason.
#3- ANY and ALL players NEED to be on the Active PUP, In order to IF/When be placed on the Reserve PUP (IF the coach so chooses to do so)...AND It IS the case with the Reserve PUP, That the players on here (reserve pup), Do NOT count against the 53 man roster limit when the season begins... Now, THIS means that: For instance once more, Belichick DOES want to see IF his other OLBs get injured and/or play sub-par...NOW Bill Belichick up until Week #6, Has an extra guy, a Fresh & Uninjured OLB in Shawn Crable, Which he stashed away. Because, ya put Crable on the Practice Squad=Potentially Gone to another team; Because ya allow Crable to play in a d#mb preseason game/practice=Potential Injury, IN which case, Crable can THEN no longer be on the Reserve PUP, I.E. In a place where until again, Week #6, Crable can beactivated ANY time, AND in a place where, Upon the beginning of the regular season, Crable would NOT count against the 53 man team limit.
~Yes, I KNOW this is ridiculously complicated...but IF Crable Is NOT injured (and we've gotten not 1 single news report that he IS), Then this IS a smart move by BB hedging his bets so to say, and keeping Crable healthy... -
Re: crable back home!
posted at 7/28/2010 6:56 AM EDT
I'm sorry Laz, this comment is ridiculously stupid (where you being sarcastic?):"but IF Crable Is NOT injured (and we've gotten not 1 single news report that he IS), Then this IS a smart move by BB hedging his bets so to say, and keeping Crable healthy..."There's no need to put Crable on any list to keep him healthy. BB keeps veterans who actually have heart and work ethic (unlike Crable) off the practice field when he wants to. In many instances players like Brady, Faulk, and Moss are given days off to rest their body. Again, no need to put Crable on a list.Using your assumption, BB loves Crable. Then why put him on a list that BB knows will lead to widespread criticism of Crable instead of just letting him take it easy during camp? I think it's more likely that BB thinks Crable is a turd and wants to embarrass him.Furthermore, it makes no sense to protect Crable since the guy hasn't put on pads in almost over a year. If anything, he needs to prove himself. This assumption that BB is protecting him because he's so valuable is just delusional.Send back some mental gymnastics that actually make your point, or, even better, an example where this has happened in the NFL before.In Response to Re: crable back home!:" active pup players count against the 80-man roster limit. so bb isn't doing this to evaluate other players ." ~bbobbo bbobbo and ALL : See bb~ what you and others are failing to see Is that Belichick certainly COULD be doing this for Shawn Crable's and the team's overall benefit... HERE'S WHY: The ACTIVE PUP : ~ You ARE correct, In that when placed on the Active PUP, These players still DO count against the roster limit...But see, THAT Roster Limit IS 80 freakin' guys, and NOT The 53 Man Roster Limit that each NFL Team has as the maximum when the actual Regular Season begins...So sheez, WHO cares about Crable actually counting when it's 80 PLAYERS total? ~ BUT now, There ARE benefits to placing Shawn Crable on The ACTIVE PUP right now: #1- Can still go to ALL team meetings & team functions, He JUST CANNOT Practice himself...In otherwords, Possiibly saving Crable from a pointless injury occuring at a practice... I.E. Crable getting ALL the benefits of knowing WHAT's happening in schemes, filmwork, functions, and meetings, JUST not getting the potential to get hurt on some ridiculous freak random play in a practice. #2- By placing Shawn Crable ON the PUP, Crable CAN get activated at ANY time whatsoever, UP until Week #6 of The Regular Season... So theoretically say Crable IS fine, But Belichick doesn't like the look and play of his other Outside Linebackers, OR 1 or more of those OTHER Outside Linebackers get injured themselves, OR IF and when Bill Belichick says, "Alright, we got through this training camp thing AND these pointless (and numerous) Preseason Games," Belichick can NOW "hedge his bets" on Crable NOT getting hurt, BY activating him at ANY time- Up until AND through Week #6 and/or at ANY time during the Preseason. #3- ANY and ALL players NEED to be on the Active PUP, In order to IF/When be placed on the Reserve PUP (IF the coach so chooses to do so)...AND It IS the case with the Reserve PUP, That the players on here (reserve pup), Do NOT count against the 53 man roster limit when the season begins... Now, THIS means that: For instance once more, Belichick DOES want to see IF his other OLBs get injured and/or play sub-par...NOW Bill Belichick up until Week #6, Has an extra guy, a Fresh & Uninjured OLB in Shawn Crable, Which he stashed away. Because, ya put Crable on the Practice Squad=Potentially Gone to another team; Because ya allow Crable to play in a d#mb preseason game/practice=Potential Injury, IN which case, Crable can THEN no longer be on the Reserve PUP, I.E. In a place where until again, Week #6, Crable can beactivated ANY time, AND in a place where, Upon the beginning of the regular season, Crable would NOT count against the 53 man team limit. ~ Yes, I KNOW this is ridiculously complicated...but IF Crable Is NOT injured (and we've gotten not 1 single news report that he IS), Then this IS a smart move by BB hedging his bets so to say, and keeping Crable healthy...
Posted by LazarusintheSanatorium -
Re: crable back home!
posted at 7/28/2010 9:26 AM EDT
And sorry if you were being sarcastic. It's hard to tell sometimes... -
Re: crable back home!
posted at 7/28/2010 10:09 AM EDT
Crable's showing up on the PUP list is a surprise to me. He's a darft pick from what? three years ago? He ain't getting any younger. He's supposed to play football, not sit around on the PUP list. Athlete? How on earth would we know, we've never seen the guy do anything. It makes no sense at all. He should be gone, NOW....
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Re: crable back home!
posted at 7/28/2010 10:17 AM EDT
Simply because some of us seem to think that BB might, just might mind you, know what he's doing doesn't mean opposing views shouldn't post. There does seem to be a tendency in this forum to react in the extreme, but I digress. I'd like someone to explain in terms I can understand how giving Crable another shot hurts the Pats. If he gets hurt again, then he gets hurt again and someone else takes the roster spot. If he does stay healthy and manages to make a contribution then holy jumped up Hart Lee Dykes - it's a bonus.
Please, how does giving Crable another shot hurt the Pats? -
Re: crable back home!
posted at 7/28/2010 12:06 PM EDT
In Response to Re: crable back home!:"Go an the Jets post." Huh? "Do you not think they know what they are doing..." Are you Albert Breer? I recognize your writing style anywhere. In Response to Re: crable back home! :
Posted by Rockdog1293000
Hahaha now thats funny -
Re: crable back home!
posted at 7/28/2010 4:13 PM EDT
"There's no need to put Crable on any list to keep him healthy. BB keeps veterans who actually have heart and work ethic (unlike Crable) off the practice field when he wants to. In many instances players like Brady, Faulk, and Moss are given days off to rest their body. Again, no need to put Crable on a list.Using your assumption, BB loves Crable. Then why put him on a list that BB knows will lead to widespread criticism of Crable instead of just letting him take it easy during camp? I think it's more likely that BB thinks Crable is a turd and wants to embarrass him.Furthermore, it makes no sense to protect Crable since the guy hasn't put on pads in almost over a year. If anything, he needs to prove himself. This assumption that BB is protecting him because he's so valuable is just delusional.Send back some mental gymnastics that actually make your point, or, even better, an example where this has happened in the NFL before."
~Rockdog
I'll do even BETTER than offering you an NFL example rockdog, I'll give ya a REAL-WORLD example which applies here, towards your very own mental hurdle, that I shall help you leap over in regards to my points on Crable...
See RD~ My teaching qualifications are surely unsurpassed by ANYone, For it was yours trully, Who once brought a little girl child, From the very brink of a veritable alien incommunicable state, Towards the wide open gates of Total Understanding. So to begin, I'll ask of you to struggle through my posts on this thread, yet again. THEN, I'll do for you, what EXACTLY I did for her: "Water Rockdog; WATER rockdog! You will UNderstand, You WILL!...Because THIS is WA-ter!" -
Re: crable back home!
posted at 7/28/2010 4:49 PM EDT
I didn't quite follow that, but your boy Crable was released. You see, it's not worth my time to read 3 pages of theories on how the great mind of BB is putting Crable on PUP (a totally and completely stupid theory) when it's clear that Crable is and always was a dud. Maybe I could teach you how to communicate better via a blog post. You see, there's a thing called THE DIRECT METHOD that you might want to look into using when explaining an argument. Just a thought.
In Response to Re: crable back home!:" There's no need to put Crable on any list to keep him healthy. BB keeps veterans who actually have heart and work ethic (unlike Crable) off the practice field when he wants to. In many instances players like Brady, Faulk, and Moss are given days off to rest their body. Again, no need to put Crable on a list. Using your assumption, BB loves Crable. Then why put him on a list that BB knows will lead to widespread criticism of Crable instead of just letting him take it easy during camp? I think it's more likely that BB thinks Crable is a turd and wants to embarrass him. Furthermore, it makes no sense to protect Crable since the guy hasn't put on pads in almost over a year. If anything, he needs to prove himself. This assumption that BB is protecting him because he's so valuable is just delusional. Send back some mental gymnastics that actually make your point, or, even better, an example where this has happened in the NFL before ." ~ Rockdog I'll do even BETTER than offering you an NFL example rockdog, I'll give ya a REAL-WORLD example which applies here, towards your very own mental hurdle, that I shall help you leap over in regards to my points on Crable... See RD~ My teaching qualifications are surely unsurpassed by ANYone, For it was yours trully, Who once brought a little girl child, From the very brink of a veritable alien incommunicable state, Towards the wide open gates of Total Understanding. So to begin, I'll ask of you to struggle through my posts on this thread, yet again. THEN, I'll do for you, what EXACTLY I did for her: "Water Rockdog; WATER rockdog! You will UN derstand, You WILL !...Because THIS is WA-ter!"
Posted by LazarusintheSanatorium -
Re: crable back home!
posted at 7/28/2010 5:24 PM EDT
Geez, how could my wild fan speculation of BB's intentions have been so wrong? Will I ever learn? Nope...maybe BB did this just to make some of us look bad? lol -
Re: crable back home!
posted at 7/28/2010 6:27 PM EDT
Sorry 49(er Shawn Crable) good luck in your future endeavors. -
Re: crable back home!
posted at 7/28/2010 8:14 PM EDT
In Response to Re: crable back home!:Simply because some of us seem to think that BB might, just might mind you, know what he's doing doesn't mean opposing views shouldn't post. There does seem to be a tendency in this forum to react in the extreme, but I digress. I'd like someone to explain in terms I can understand how giving Crable another shot hurts the Pats. If he gets hurt again, then he gets hurt again and someone else takes the roster spot. If he does stay healthy and manages to make a contribution then holy jumped up Hart Lee Dykes - it's a bonus. Please, how does giving Crable another shot hurt the Pats?
Posted by ATJ
It doesn't..as long a it's a .45 to the heart..after he cuts him...BAHAHAHA -
Re: crable back home!
posted at 7/28/2010 8:25 PM EDT
We should all be careful and use the word "released" rather than "cut". This guy would get injured if he was in the same room as a pair of scissors. -
Re: crable back home!
posted at 7/28/2010 8:53 PM EDT
In Response to Re: crable back home!:Cut
Posted by kansaspatriot
BB must read this forum. how'd i know?