Re: Danny Amendola Signs
posted at 3/13/2013 9:17 PM EDT
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I knew Welker would never see anything better than the 16 million guaranteed and that offer last year. His agent failed him badly and then his ego got bruised. Welker made his choice and now a golden opportunity opens up for Amendola.
I wonder what the next move is?
How did his agent fail him? He ended up with 21.5 million guaranteed over three years, rather than 16 million guaranteed over two.
Breer said it was 12 million over 2 years. No?
Yeah, plus the 9.5 million he got under the franchise tag last year, which adds up to 21.5 over three years. Essentially, Welker has another 5.5. million in guaranteed money for next year. Could he have gotten a 5.5 million deal next year had he signed the Pats' two year 16 million deal last year? Maybe. But it's not certain. For a receiver who didn't prove himself until his third contract, Welker is going to end up with pretty good guaranteed money over three years. I don't think his agent failed here.
Ahh. Well, 16 million guaranteed in 2012 and 2013 is better than only 9.5 for 1 year. That was sort of my point. If he got hurt last year, who knows what his value would have been as a FA.
Yes, his agent failed him. He might have gotten a 3 year deal at 6 or 7 mil if he just took his price down from the outrageous 10 million per rumors he was looking for when negotiations. He wanted money. Then he got less than what he thought he was worth.
It limited the bidding for him and he ended up being annoyed by NE's 5 mil per offer but happy with Denver's 6 mil per?
It was totally botched.
Last year, I thought he'd be happy with 3 years, 7 million per year. Essentially, that's what he ended up with, just in a round about way.
True, but I was under the impression, based on numerous reports that he wanted #1 WR money, which is 10 mil per.
I think this was more a situation where BB wanted Wes for 2012 and 2013 and the best offer Welker was going to see was 8 million and 16 million guaranteed.
He could have been a FA after 2013 and given it 1 more year here, though, which was his preference.
Whatever. I almost feel bad for him if NE was to win a SB without him and Denver doesn't.
Good luck against an NFC team outdoors in windy NJ with Gomer in Feb, Wes.
I'm sure he wanted bigger money. But that probably wasn't feasible last year or this. Slots just don't get that kind of money. Overall, I think he did pretty well, especially given the fact that he was working for his third contract. Most guys make the big money with contract two. By the time they get to the third contract they're getting old.
True, but he's playing with Brady in a loaded offense, which was essentially BB and Kraft's case against him in negotiations.
I happen to side with BB and Kraft on the topic, because it's true.
That's not a knock on Welker. You said yourself: The slot WR market isn't the perimeter WR market.
I don't think Wes saw it that way. It's a unique situation because he's the best slot WR I've ever seen.
It doesn't mean I open up a checkbook and overpay on past laurels, though.
It will be interesting to see the way the deal is structured. Overall, on a per-year basis, they're paying Amendola about the same as what Welker got. On the surface you could question whether giving up a proven guy for an unproven one makes sense when the cost of both is the same. But I assume Amendola's deal is structured to save cap space this year, which may allow them to sign another decent WR as well as a corner or two. That may be the biggest attraction for Kraft and BB.
