***Day 2 Prospects to Follow***

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    ***Day 2 Prospects to Follow***

    Here are some names that I'll be following on Day 2:

    (Updated 4:35 PM EST)

    DB:

    Josh Robinson
    Jayron Hosley
    Ron Brooks
    Casey Hayward
    Janoris Jenkins
    George Iloka
    Brandon Taylor
    Brandon Boykin
    Shaun Prater
    Chase Minnifield

    LB:

    Courtney Upshaw
    Ronnell Lewis

    DE/OLB:

    Vinny Curry

    DL:

    Kendall Reyes
    Alameda Ta'amu
    Derek Wolfe
    Brandon Thompson
    Josh Chapman

    Offense:

    Amini Silatolu- OG
    Senio Kelemete-OG
    Joe Looney-OG
    Bobby Massie- OT
    Jonathan Martin- OT
    Alshon Jeffery-WR
    Marvin Jones- WR
    Jarius Wright- WR
    Mohamed Sanu-WR
    Greg Childs-WR
    Joe Adams-WR
    Ryan Broyles-WR
    Devon Wylie-WR
    Lamichael James- RB
    Lamar Miller- RB
    Vick Ballard- RB
     
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    No Upshaw?  Still a guy I want.
     
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    [QUOTE]No Upshaw?  Still a guy I want.
    Posted by MordecaiBloodmoon[/QUOTE]

    Looks like I completely forgot to add LB's. Thanks.
     
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    What do you think of Hardin? Broken shoulder last year, but his measurables were very high - probably 3rd/4th rounder but could be a sleeper in the back end?
     
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    [QUOTE]What do you think of Hardin? Broken shoulder last year, but his measurables were very high - probably 3rd/4th rounder but could be a sleeper in the back end?
    Posted by mia76[/QUOTE]

    Oregon State S/CB Brandon Hardin?  Yes, like him and have him on my board, view him as a Rd 5-7 type, good size/speed combo.
     
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    Vinny Curry might go in the 2nd.
     
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    What about the guys like Worthy, Konz, Jon Martin, and Reyes. This is the deepest second round I have ever seen and New England can get a guy at #48 that will contribute this year. With Jones they got a game planner, so when a team sets the game plan vs the Pats it will involve knowing where Jones is at all times. With Hightower they got maybe the most dependable player in the draft. You know that he can take on blockers and make tackles. Were not sure he can get to the QB or play the outside.YET. But with the next pick I think its time for the game changer, usually the guys that go in the top 10. Jenkins is my guy who can make the big play and most importantly he fills the Pats biggest need at CB. He has the top 10 talent and hes also a great special teams player. 

    I know MB you have mentioned some CB's available in the second round but other then Jenkins none of them are game changers or future studs. If you go back and look at previous years drafts there has not been a CB taken in the 2nd or 3rd round that has become a pro-bowler since the 05 draft. And that was some guy I have never heard of. I understand the character issues but the chance of getting the game changer this late is perfect scenario for the Pats.
     
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    [QUOTE]What about the guys like Worthy, Konz, Jon Martin, and Reyes. This is the deepest second round I have ever seen and New England can get a guy at #48 that will contribute this year. With Jones they got a game planner, so when a team sets the game plan vs the Pats it will involve knowing where Jones is at all times. With Hightower they got maybe the most dependable player in the draft. You know that he can take on blockers and make tackles. Were not sure he can get to the QB or play the outside.YET. But with the next pick I think its time for the game changer, usually the guys that go in the top 10. Jenkins is my guy who can make the big play and most importantly he fills the Pats biggest need at CB. He has the top 10 talent and hes also a great special teams player.  I know MB you have mentioned some CB's available in the second round but other then Jenkins none of them are game changers or future studs. If you go back and look at previous years drafts there has not been a CB taken in the 2nd or 3rd round that has become a pro-bowler since the 05 draft. And that was some guy I have never heard of. I understand the character issues but the chance of getting the game changer this late is perfect scenario for the Pats.
    Posted by maine12[/QUOTE]

    I have Reyes listed (like his length/motor better than Worthy, but Worth def has some 2 gap ability), don't see them touching Konz/a center today, Martin is a name I'll add.

    Jenkins is on my list as well, would love to see him in Rd 2, would be great value.  Next I'd have Robinson (huge upside with this kid) followed by Hosley (has ball hawk/game changer ability).
     
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    Heard Pats are looking at CB possible.  Josh Robinson CB would be a-OK with me in 2nd.  Keep going Defense!

    Thanks MB for your list!
     
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    Alright MB let me put you on the clock with this scenario.

    #48_________

    Players still on the board.
    Reyes
    Jenkins
    Silatolu
    Wolfe 
    Jeffrey
     
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    [QUOTE]Heard Pats are looking at CB possible.  Josh Robinson CB would be a-OK with me in 2nd.  Keep going Defense! Thanks MB for your list!
    Posted by NOISE[/QUOTE]

    Makes a ton of sense... good size (5-10 199), elite speed, agility and COD (4.30 40, 3.99 SS, 6.57 3C), has very good ball skills (4 INT's, 28 PD the last two seasons) and a ton of upside.

    Welcome!
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: ***Day 2 Prospects to Follow*** : Makes a ton of sense... good size (5-10 199), elite speed, agility and COD (4.30 40, 3.99 SS, 6.57 3C), has very good ball skills (4 INT's, 28 PD the last two seasons) and a ton of upside. Welcome!
    Posted by mbeaulieu07[/QUOTE]

    Totally agree MB.  Elite Speed and good size stand out to me.  Would love to be a fly on the wall to see who is High on the Pats Board!  I'm sure glad that Mr. Jones and Mr Hightower were!
     
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    if we draft Reyes and Jenkins or Robinson or Iloka This draft might go down as an all timer! 4 picks only in the 1st 2 rounds and all defense would be epic!
     
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    [QUOTE]Alright MB let me put you on the clock with this scenario. #48_________ Players still on the board. Reyes Jenkins Silatolu Wolfe  Jeffrey
    Posted by maine12[/QUOTE]

    Wow, that's a tough one... I'd be torn between polar opposites.

    Reyes is the epitome of a Patriot type, smart kid, very good size, athletic, versatile, moves well, is a leader, very good character.

    Jenkins is a top 5 talent that would represent exceptional value, but is also a knucklehead with huge character concerns.

    My mock has Reyes at 48, so I'd prob lean that way, but wow would I be tempted by Jenkins... hope he falls to the end of Rd 2, which is wear I'd grab him.
     
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    [QUOTE]if we draft Reyes and Jenkins or Robinson or Iloka This draft might go down as an all timer! 4 picks only in the 1st 2 rounds and all defense would be epic!
    Posted by TrueChamp[/QUOTE]

    Sure would be awesome, I'm generally partial to the defensive players/side of the ball, so anytime they load up on that side of the ball, I'm a happy guy.
     
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    I'd take Jenkins before Reyes, b/c unless Robinson is going to fall to 62 I'd see there being moone of the interior D-line options (Thompson, Ta'amu, Worthy, Still, Wolfe, Martin) still there at 62... I think the CB talent takes a drop after Jenkins/Robinson more than the DT's do.
     
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    I just like the potential of Jenkins. Cant go wrong with a front 7 guy to help add depth but Jenkins could be the steal of the draft. We already got two great picks and the next two could just be icing on the cake.
     
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    I wouldn't disagree with taking Jenkins at all, huge huge value on a bit time talent.
     
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    Josh Robinson is the one guy still on the board that I drool over. As was mentioned earlier he makes a ton of sense... good size (5-10 199), elite speed, agility and COD (4.30 40, 3.99 SS, 6.57 3C), has very good ball skills (4 INT's, 28 PD the last two seasons) and a ton of upside... not to mention he is in my opinion and several scouts opinions the best return guy in the draft with his elite speed. The Patriots have struggled to find a return specialist for a while and this guy is hands down the one to go after. I have seen him go as late as early 3rd round so maybe we can even wait to get him with #61 but I hope we don't miss out on him cause he has solid coverage skills on top of the return ability. but IN BILL WE TRUST!
     
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    [QUOTE]Vinny Curry might go in the 2nd.
    Posted by garytx[/QUOTE]

    gt,
    Good call, prob should waited until I was fully awake to make the list, ha.
     
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    What about Devon Still?  Do you not view him as someone who can play in the 3-4?
     
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    You left off a few quality DTs from your list who are still on the board - Still, Thompson, Worthy, Crick. I just don't see the Pats selecting a LB. CB is highest priority. After that, best available player on the board at DT, OG/C, WR - although it would be tough to pass on Still, Worthy, Glenn, Konz, Reyes and maybe Osemele at 48. My realistic best case scenario is Still and Robinson or Jenkins and TaAmau And the D would RULE!
     
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    [QUOTE]What about Devon Still?  Do you not view him as someone who can play in the 3-4?
    Posted by pcmIV[/QUOTE]

    I think he could play the 3-4 DE but hes best suited as 4-3 DT. Thats the thing, there is just so much talent left in the second round that the Pats are sitting pretty.
     
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    I'm not a Still guy, consistent questions about his motor/motivation... sure he can play in either front, I just want guys who want to play and play hard every down.

    Thompson and Worthy I can see, both also have motor questions, though I don't see it as much with Thompson.

    I don't see Crick as a fit, strictly 43 guy only, not a 2 gapper.
     
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    [QUOTE]I'm not a Still guy, consistent questions about his motor/motivation... sure he can play in either front, I just want guys who want to play and play hard every down. Thompson and Worthy I can see, both also have motor questions, though I don't see it as much with Thompson. I don't see Crick as a fit, strictly 43 guy only, not a 2 gapper.
    Posted by mbeaulieu07[/QUOTE]

    Fair enough.  Then again I think there are similar questions about a lot of the remaining prospects and that still has more ability and better fundamentals than the other 2 guys you mentioned.  In addition I think it is worth pointing out that Penn State's defense was on the field an awful lot as their offense was pretty terrible to say the least so that may have played a role in him being inconsistent.  At the end of the day I'd be happy with anyone that can help us rest Big Vince a little more this year.

    EDIT: In addition he has football bloodlines which I think is a + for BB.
     
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