Demps Cannot Return - had to be on the 53 man order then ired to return. Crap!

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    Demps Cannot Return - had to be on the 53 man order then ired to return. Crap!

    tell me if you're disappointed or pissed.
    im both.
     
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    Re: Demps Cannot Return - had to be on the 53 man order then ired to return. Crap!

    In response to bredbru's comment:

    tell me if you're disappointed or pissed.
    im both.



    Where did you hear or read this?
     
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    Re: Demps Cannot Return - had to be on the 53 man order then ired to return. Crap!

    He was on the 53 and then IR"d.  He is OK
     
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    Re: Demps Cannot Return - had to be on the 53 man order then ired to return. Crap!

    In response to GO47comment:
    [QUOTE]

    In response to bredbru comment:

    tell me if you're disappointed or pissed.
    im both.



    Where did you hear or read this?

     

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    thought posted that. 98.5 soports hub
     
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    Re: Demps Cannot Return - had to be on the 53 man order then ired to return. Crap!

    In response to pezz4pats' comment:

    He was on the 53 and then IR"d.  He is OK



    that woudl be cool and opposite whats been reported. wehre did you see or hear that?
    thanks
     
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    Re: Demps Cannot Return - had to be on the 53 man order then ired to return. Crap!

    If this is true then I'm disappointed because he looked like he could help. In the end I think they weren't going to have three third down backs on the roster at the same time, if they're able to bring him back later on it makes sense, because you know someone will get hurt.
     
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    Re: Demps Cannot Return - had to be on the 53 man order then ired to return. Crap!

    he was placed on the 53 and then Ir'd to make it 52.  There is an exemption this year.  He can come back
     
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    Re: Demps Cannot Return - had to be on the 53 man order then ired to return. Crap!

    In response to pezz4pats' comment:

    he was placed on the 53 and then Ir'd to make it 52.  There is an exemption this year.  He can come back



    i know about all this. there are conditions on thr ir player that can return. where did you hear demps made the 53 man? the hub is reporting demps was not on the 53 man and cant return this year.

    since tehy are at 52, what you say sounds like it coudl have happend. but where did you see or hear that demps made teh 53?
     
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    Re: Demps Cannot Return - had to be on the 53 man order then ired to return. Crap!

    In response to bredbru's comment:

    tell me if you're disappointed or pissed.
    im both.

    Yup you are correct:

    Only players with a "major injury" who are placed on Reserve/Injured after 4:00 p.m., New York time, on Tuesday, September 4, or thereafter during the season, will be eligible to be reactivated at a later time.

     
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    Re: Demps Cannot Return - had to be on the 53 man order then ired to return. Crap!

    In response to GO47 comment:
    [QUOTE]

    In response to bredbru comment:

    tell me if you're disappointed or pissed.
    im both.

    Yup you are correct:

    Only players with a "major injury" who are placed on Reserve/Injured after 4:00 p.m., New York time, on Tuesday, September 4, or thereafter during the season, will be eligible to be reactivated at a later time.

     

    [/QUOTE]

    thanks i thought there was a september date they had to eb on teh 53.
    that clears it up.
    how you feelin about it?
     
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    Re: Demps Cannot Return - had to be on the 53 man order then ired to return. Crap!

    Demps has practiced how long with the Patriots?  A week?  He's been lifting weights like a football player for one week?  He's been working out with the jugs machine for a week.  He's been practicing running crisp patterns and picking up Brady's blitzes at the NFL level for an entire week.  He's been learning the NFL's most complex offense for, yeah right.  He's been out of football entirely for seven months straight.  Demps had fumblitis when he did play.  That's not rusty, that's ridiculous.  Demps will be of no use whatsoever to this team for two months, and will only be of marginal use later in this season.  Maybe in a year he'll blossom.  He has more speed and more quickness than anyone else in the NFL.

    The best possible thing that could happen for BB and the Patriots was for Demps to fall down and limp off the field, but not be too horribly injured.  Everybody say "Darn!" because that's exactly what happened to the poor rookie.   BB gets to reserve Demps's spot for a 54th player who can play real football against Tennessee nine days from now.  BB still has a four year rookie contract with Demps plus a restricted free agent year in case Demps's boo boo gets all better. 

     
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    I never saw an official "cut" for Demps, so I'm assuming that he made the roster, and then was IR'd. Therefore, the exemption for Tuesday doesn't apply in this case.

    The exemption only applies to a player placed on the IR before the 53 man cut deadline. And that player would have to be put back on the roster until Tuesday Sept. 4th, THEN he could be designated with the shortened IR tag. 

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000056497/article/nflpa-nfl-agree-to-trade-deadline-extension-ir-exception
     
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    Re: Demps Cannot Return - had to be on the 53 man order then ired to return. Crap!

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    I never saw an official "cut" for Demps, so I'm assuming that he made the roster, and then was IR'd. Therefore, the exemption for Tuesday doesn't apply in this case.

    The exemption only applies to a player placed on the IR before the 53 man cut deadline. And that player would have to be put back on the roster until Tuesday Sept. 4th, THEN he could be designated with the shortened IR tag. 

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000056497/article/nflpa-nfl-agree-to-trade-deadline-extension-ir-exception



    so you are saying hes eligible to retrurn or not
     
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    In response to bredbru's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    In response to TheSalmon's comment:


    I never saw an official "cut" for Demps, so I'm assuming that he made the roster, and then was IR'd. Therefore, the exemption for Tuesday doesn't apply in this case.

    The exemption only applies to a player placed on the IR before the 53 man cut deadline. And that player would have to be put back on the roster until Tuesday Sept. 4th, THEN he could be designated with the shortened IR tag. 

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000056497/article/nflpa-nfl-agree-to-trade-deadline-extension-ir-exception



    so you are saying hes eligible to retrurn or not

    YES!!!

    [/QUOTE]

     
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    Re: Demps Cannot Return - had to be on the 53 man order then ired to return. Crap!

    In response to Paul_K's comment:

    Demps has practiced how long with the Patriots?  A week?  He's been lifting weights like a football player for one week?  He's been working out with the jugs machine for a week.  He's been practicing running crisp patterns and picking up Brady's blitzes at the NFL level for an entire week.  He's been learning the NFL's most complex offense for, yeah right.  He's been out of football entirely for seven months straight.  Demps had fumblitis when he did play.  That's not rusty, that's ridiculous.  Demps will be of no use whatsoever to this team for two months, and will only be of marginal use later in this season.  Maybe in a year he'll blossom.  He has more speed and more quickness than anyone else in the NFL.

    The best possible thing that could happen for BB and the Patriots was for Demps to fall down and limp off the field, but not be too horribly injured.  Everybody say "Darn!" because that's exactly what happened to the poor rookie.   BB gets to reserve Demps's spot for a 54th player who can play real football against Tennessee nine days from now.  BB still has a four year rookie contract with Demps plus a restricted free agent year in case Demps's boo boo gets all better. 



    i see that he has already been a help to tehm in presaeason , not to mention he will make it impossible to focus  only on covering the wr adn te wehn he is on the field. that alone will help tremendously
     
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    Re: Demps Cannot Return - had to be on the 53 man order then ired to return. Crap!

    Yea, he's most likely eligible to return.  Pats still need to designate which IR he is on. 

    Reiss is reporting on his quick hits that there is some loose interpretation of this new IR rule still.



     
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    Re: Demps Cannot Return - had to be on the 53 man order then ired to return. Crap!

    Bedard is reporting that DEMPS IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO RETURN :
    In order to be considered under the new IR rule a player has to be on the roster on Friday night and then moved to IR after Tues .
      he comments that Shiancoe may be a prime candidate for such a move .

    Alas ...

     DEMPS 2012 season is history .
     
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    Re: Demps Cannot Return - had to be on the 53 man order then ired to return. Crap!

    In response to TheSalmons comment:
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    Yea, he's most likely eligible to return.  Pats still need to designate which IR he is on. 

    Reiss is reporting on his quick hits that there is some loose interpretation of this new IR rule still.

    thanks for clearing that up. the sports hub reported the opposite

     

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    Re: Demps Cannot Return - had to be on the 53 man order then ired to return. Crap!

    pezz4pats, thanks for that article. Here's how I read it:

    As long as the Pats keep a 52 man roster between now and Tuesday, and assuming the Pats did not place Demps in the season-ending IR, then Demps will be eligible to return.

    So, I think there is hope.

     
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    Re: Demps Cannot Return - had to be on the 53 man order then ired to return. Crap!

    In response to CaptnFoxboro's comment:

    Bedard is reporting that DEMPS IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO RETURN :
    In order to be considered under the new IR rule a player has to be on the roster on Friday night and then moved to IR after Tues .
      he comments that Shiancoe may be a prime candidate for such a move .

    Alas ...

     DEMPS 2012 season is history .




    Post that link please....

    I was under the assumption that the Tuesday Sept 4th deadline only applied to players already on IR before the 53 man cut. 

     
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    Re: Demps Cannot Return - had to be on the 53 man order then ired to return. Crap!

    In response to pats-fan-2007 comment:
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    pezz4pats, thanks for that article. Here's how I read it:

    As long as the Pats keep a 52 man roster between now and Tuesday, and assuming the Pats did not place Demps in the season-ending IR, then Demps will be eligible to return.

    So, I think there is hope.

     

    [/QUOTE]

    pats 07,
    thanks man...holding out hope
     
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    Re: Demps Cannot Return - had to be on the 53 man order then ired to return. Crap!

    Heres the Bedard link :



    http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/extra_points/2012/08/after_the_cuts.html?camp=misc:on:twit:pats


    Hopefully Bedard has misinterpreted the new rule
     
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    Re: Demps Cannot Return - had to be on the 53 man order then ired to return. Crap!

    Ahh.

    Found it before I came back, sorry, thanks...

    Yea, we really need the "official" IR rule link.

    Hope Demps isn't done for the season.
     
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    Re: Demps Cannot Return - had to be on the 53 man order then ired to return. Crap!

    Does anyone have the link to the actual rules language from the NFL or NFLPA?
     
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    Re: Demps Cannot Return - had to be on the 53 man order then ired to return. Crap!

    The NFL Players Association has agreed to push the trade deadline back by two weeks until after Week 8 of the regular season, and also OK’d a rule change that will allow one player per team to return from the injured reserve to the active roster and play that season.

    Previously, a player designated for the injured reserve list would be automatically ineligible to play for the balance of the season. Under the amended terms, a team can designate one player who has been placed on injured reserved to return later in the season. That player, however, must be on the team's final 53-man roster (finalized on Friday), and also will not be eligible to practice until after the sixth week of the season, and won’t be able to play until after the eighth week of the season.

    Because this rule was not agreed upon until Thursday, NFL teams have been granted an exemption for the 2012 season in which they can designate a player that has already been placed on the injured reserve list as a player to return later in this season. This designation must be made by Friday. As an example, the Patriots could designate linebacker Dane Fletcher, who was placed on the injured reserve list earlier this preseason after suffering a major knee injury, as their player to return.

    It would appear that this new injured reserve rule could impact the Patriots in one way or another this season. Although we do not know the specifics of injuries to players like Visanthe Shiancoe, Nick McDonald and Tracy White, all three are players who are ineligible to be placed on the PUP list, and could bring value to the team down the road. It would seem plausible for the team to designate one of these three players as their player who would be eligible to return from injured reserve, if in fact their injuries are severe enough that they will not be able to return to the field before the start of the regular season.
     
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