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    [QUOTE]what would be interesting is because Demps has pretty good hands if they'd comsider converting him to a WR. He might not have height but speed with good hands could be deadly out wide
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    dont know his rout tree at this point, but he ran several in college
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Demps Signs With Patriots :      Beware the dreaded hamstring injury. The Pats should bring Demps along slowly.
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    he shouldnt pop a hammy, hes been running top speed in competition. he shoudl be supremely flexible. never understood how any pro athlete dont keep their hamstrings flexible and conditioned when yoru livelihood depends on it.
     
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    [QUOTE]Sweet......any Olympic Shot Putting OT's out there?
    Posted by tcal2-[/QUOTE]

    :)
    priceless.
    was a fantasy, and now hes here.
    bb and caserio hunting dual track and football players for a tackle now eh?
     
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    [QUOTE]Not bad Superbowl Ring and Silver Medal in a few months.
    Posted by bobbysu[/QUOTE]
    Your Wrong, we will Choke again in the SB, because of BB bonehead play calling. (3 and 3 from the 3 yd line, lets throw a bomb 2 no 1 from R Endzone)               Nobody gona cut Woodhead!!!
    Demps will B cut at the end of TC.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Demps Signs With Patriots : he shouldn't pop a hammy, hes been running top speed in competition. he should be supremely flexible. never understood how any pro athlete dont keep their hamstrings flexible and conditioned when yoru livelihood depends on it.
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         He may not amount to much, as he has been injury prone throughout his college career. But, his speed makes him an intriguing prospect. The knock on him as a runner and receiver is that he is small framed, with very small hands. BB has signed him to a three year deal...so he must have faith in the kid. Surely, BB has been on the phone with Charle Weis and Irvin Meyer about Demps: http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/8277930/olympic-silver-medalist-jeff-demps-sign-new-england-patriots-sources

         Here's a couple of scouting reports on Demps:

    1.) ProFootball Weekly: Jeff Demps:

         Native Floridian who starred in football and track, capturing a pair of state championships in the 100 meters. As a true freshman at Florida in 2008, carried 78 times for 605 yards (7.8 yards per carry) with 7 TDs. Had groin surgery in the spring of 2009 to repair a left abductor release. In the Fall, he started 12 of 14 games and ran 99 times for 945 yards, and 7 TDs (a 7.5 yard average per carry) despite battling the flu in September, a sprained neck against Mississippi State, and a dislocated left elbow against Cincinnati. Sustained a concussion in August of 2010, before starting 5 of 11 games...in which he rushed for 551 yards on 92 carries (6 yard average per carry), and 3 TDs. Sprained his left foot against Tennessee and was bothered by the injury the rest of the season, sitting out against LSU and Vanderbilt. Caught 41 career passes for 309 yards (22.3 yards per catch), and 10 TDs.Also returned 11 kickoffs for 354 yards (32.2 yard average), and 2 punts for 37 yards (18.5 average). Played 12 games in 2011, starting 5, and totaled 569 yards on 98 carries (5.8 yds. per carry) rushing, 16 receptions for 172 yards receiving (10.8 yard average), and had 10 kickoff returns with one TD, averaging 25 yards per return. Hurt his shoulder against UAB and sat out the second half of that game. Sprained his left ankle against Alabama, carried just twice against LSU and was unable to play against Auburn. Fumbled 11 times in 424 touches, and gained 6.7 yards per carry. Team captain. Doubles as an Olympic caliber sprinter.At the conclusion of his senior season, opted to forgo football in order to train for the Olympics., which required dropping nearly 15 pounds. Declined invitation to The Combine. 

    Positives: Has world-class track speed that translates to the football field. Possesses game-breaking explosiveness - accelerates in a blink and shows an extra gear very few players have. Only needs a crack, gains the edge and outruns angles in the open field. Has enough shiftiness to sidestep the first tackler. Cuts at high speed and turns on the afterburners. Good potential as a receiver - is agile and pops out of breaks to create separation. Special-teams standout. Surprisingly tough and durable. Mature, motivated, competitive athlete praised for his makeup and football character. 

    Negatives: Short and small framed with very small hands. Limited run strength - too easily turned on contact or tripped up. Marginal inside runner. Never carried 100 times in a season. Is a bit straight-linish and does not string moves together. Could stand to refine route-running ability. Underpowered blocker. Questionable mental and physical toughness. May take some time to grasp the playbook. 

    Summary: A versatile, super quick slasher with turbo speed and a shredded physique. Demps is a threat to go the distance every time he touches the ball, as he rips off yards in big chunks. Will have to be used strategically to maintain his durability, but can be a dynamic utility player and mismatch weapon as a change-of-pace RB, slot receiver and returner. Could warrant late consideration despite choosing to pursue a track career and graded as a middle round pick on talent alone.         
       
      
    2.) Mel Kiper:

    20. Jeff Demps 5-8 190 Florida (S. 4.32) R. 7.1

    Background: High School – Demps was a star at South Lake HS in Winter Garden, FL, running for 1,401 yards and 16 touchdowns as a senior. He was also a track star at the prep level, setting the state meet record in the 100-meter dash with a time of 10.37 seconds.

    Freshman – Demps played in all 14 games as a true freshman with the Gators in 2008, starting five times. He ran for 605 yards, a 7.8-yard average and seven scores as a rookie, adding 15 receptions for 141 yards and a touchdown out of the backfield. He had 76 yards and a touchdown on just two carries in his debut, against Hawaii; he had seven carries for 103 yards and two TDs at Arkansas; and he had 129 yards and a score on 10 rushes vs. LSU. Sophomore – Demps started 12 of his 14 appearances in 2009 and he ran for 745 yards and seven touchdowns, while averaging an impressive 7.5 yards per carry. He also caught eight passes for 52 yards as a sophomore. He opened the year with 89 yards and two touchdowns on just five carries against Charleston Southern; he had 12 rushes for 97 yards at Kentucky; and he had 106 yards on just seven attempts in the Florida State game.

    Junior – Demps led Florida in rushing as a junior, gaining 551 yards with a six-yard average and scoring three touchdowns. He added 18 catches for 116 yards and he returned eight kickoffs for a 32.5-yard average. He had eight carries for 98 yards and a score vs. Miami; he had a season-high 139 yards and a touchdown on 11 totes against South Florida; and he ran 26 times for 73 yards at Tennessee.

    Senior – This past season, Demps started five of his 12 games played and he ran for 569 yards, a 5.8-yard average, and six touchdowns. He caught 16 balls out of the backfield for 172 more yards and he returned 10 kickoffs for a 25-yard average, with one going for a score. His best games in 2011 came against Florida Atlantic (12-105, 2 TDs), at Kentucky (10-157, 2 TDs), vs. Georgia (1-72 rec; 99-yard kickoff return for TD), and against Vanderbilt (23-158, 2 TDs). 

    Analysis: Demps would have been a solid third round choice had he approached the draft focused solely on football. Instead, he has set his sights on the 2012 US Olympic Trials and a career in track. Demps is pure speed, with game-breaking ability. He also impressed me with his toughness and his ability to drop his pad level and absorb contact. He’s not real shifty or elusive; he’s more of a straight line guy. Demps might be worth late round consideration because he can always come back to football if the track career doesn’t pan out. He’s one of those asterisk guys who might not get drafted, but had he chosen football as his primary focus, he would have been a lock for the third round. *Combine Note: Didn’t workout.

     

     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Demps Signs With Patriots :      He may not amount to much, as he has been injury prone throughout his college career. But, his speed makes him an intriguing prospect. The knock on him as a runner and receiver is that he is small framed, with very small hands. BB has signed him to a three year deal...so he must have faith in the kid. Surely, BB has been on the phone with Charle Weis and Irvin Meyer about Demps: http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/8277930/olympic-silver-medalist-jeff-demps-sign-new-england-patriots-sources      Here's a couple of scouting reports on Demps: 1.) ProFootball Weekly: Jeff Demps:      Native Floridian who starred in football and track, capturing a pair of state championships in the 100 meters. As a true freshman at Florida in 2008, carried 78 times for 605 yards (7.8 yards per carry) with 7 TDs. Had groin surgery in the spring of 2009 to repair a left abductor release. In the Fall, he started 12 of 14 games and ran 99 times for 945 yards, and 7 TDs (a 7.5 yard average per carry) despite battling the flu in September, a sprained neck against Mississippi State, and a dislocated left elbow against Cincinnati. Sustained a concussion in August of 2010, before starting 5 of 11 games...in which he rushed for 551 yards on 92 carries (6 yard average per carry), and 3 TDs. Sprained his left foot against Tennessee and was bothered by the injury the rest of the season, sitting out against LSU and Vanderbilt. Caught 41 career passes for 309 yards (22.3 yards per catch), and 10 TDs.Also returned 11 kickoffs for 354 yards (32.2 yard average), and 2 punts for 37 yards (18.5 average). Played 12 games in 2011, starting 5, and totaled 569 yards on 98 carries (5.8 yds. per carry) rushing, 16 receptions for 172 yards receiving (10.8 yard average), and had 10 kickoff returns with one TD, averaging 25 yards per return. Hurt his shoulder against UAB and sat out the second half of that game. Sprained his left ankle against Alabama, carried just twice against LSU and was unable to play against Auburn. Fumbled 11 times in 424 touches, and gained 6.7 yards per carry. Team captain. Doubles as an Olympic caliber sprinter.At the conclusion of his senior season, opted to forgo football in order to train for the Olympics., which required dropping nearly 15 pounds. Declined invitation to The Combine.  Positives: Has world-class track speed that translates to the football field. Possesses game-breaking explosiveness - accelerates in a blink and shows an extra gear very few players have. Only needs a crack, gains the edge and outruns angles in the open field. Has enough shiftiness to sidestep the first tackler. Cuts at high speed and turns on the afterburners. Good potential as a receiver - is agile and pops out of breaks to create separation. Special-teams standout. Surprisingly tough and durable. Mature, motivated, competitive athlete praised for his makeup and football character.  Negatives: Short and small framed with very small hands. Limited run strength - too easily turned on contact or tripped up. Marginal inside runner. Never carried 100 times in a season. Is a bit straight-linish and does not string moves together. Could stand to refine route-running ability. Underpowered blocker. Questionable mental and physical toughness. May take some time to grasp the playbook.  Summary: A versatile, super quick slasher with turbo speed and a shredded physique. Demps is a threat to go the distance every time he touches the ball, as he rips off yards in big chunks. Will have to be used strategically to maintain his durability, but can be a dynamic utility player and mismatch weapon as a change-of-pace RB, slot receiver and returner. Could warrant late consideration despite choosing to pursue a track career and graded as a middle round pick on talent alone.                 2.) Mel Kiper: 20. Jeff Demps 5-8 190 Florida (S. 4.32) R. 7.1 Background: High School – Demps was a star at South Lake HS in Winter Garden, FL, running for 1,401 yards and 16 touchdowns as a senior. He was also a track star at the prep level, setting the state meet record in the 100-meter dash with a time of 10.37 seconds. Freshman – Demps played in all 14 games as a true freshman with the Gators in 2008, starting five times. He ran for 605 yards, a 7.8-yard average and seven scores as a rookie, adding 15 receptions for 141 yards and a touchdown out of the backfield. He had 76 yards and a touchdown on just two carries in his debut, against Hawaii; he had seven carries for 103 yards and two TDs at Arkansas; and he had 129 yards and a score on 10 rushes vs. LSU. Sophomore – Demps started 12 of his 14 appearances in 2009 and he ran for 745 yards and seven touchdowns, while averaging an impressive 7.5 yards per carry. He also caught eight passes for 52 yards as a sophomore. He opened the year with 89 yards and two touchdowns on just five carries against Charleston Southern; he had 12 rushes for 97 yards at Kentucky; and he had 106 yards on just seven attempts in the Florida State game. Junior – Demps led Florida in rushing as a junior, gaining 551 yards with a six-yard average and scoring three touchdowns. He added 18 catches for 116 yards and he returned eight kickoffs for a 32.5-yard average. He had eight carries for 98 yards and a score vs. Miami; he had a season-high 139 yards and a touchdown on 11 totes against South Florida; and he ran 26 times for 73 yards at Tennessee. Senior – This past season, Demps started five of his 12 games played and he ran for 569 yards, a 5.8-yard average, and six touchdowns. He caught 16 balls out of the backfield for 172 more yards and he returned 10 kickoffs for a 25-yard average, with one going for a score. His best games in 2011 came against Florida Atlantic (12-105, 2 TDs), at Kentucky (10-157, 2 TDs), vs. Georgia (1-72 rec; 99-yard kickoff return for TD), and against Vanderbilt (23-158, 2 TDs).  Analysis: Demps would have been a solid third round choice had he approached the draft focused solely on football. Instead, he has set his sights on the 2012 US Olympic Trials and a career in track. Demps is pure speed, with game-breaking ability. He also impressed me with his toughness and his ability to drop his pad level and absorb contact. He’s not real shifty or elusive; he’s more of a straight line guy. Demps might be worth late round consideration because he can always come back to football if the track career doesn’t pan out. He’s one of those asterisk guys who might not get drafted, but had he chosen football as his primary focus, he would have been a lock for the third round. *Combine Note: Didn’t workout.
    Posted by TexasPat[/QUOTE]

    good stuff. maybe bow we have a guy who can return a kick past the 15 yard line
     
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    I like it, another way that the Patriots can beat you. It seems like almost every woodhead kickoff return went between the 15-20 yard line. Demps is so fast that he will be well down field by the time coverage even has a shot at him. We can also use him on offense a few plays a game. Screen pass ect.. just having him on the field would force defenses to account for him, opening up things for the other guys. Good signing.
     
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    [QUOTE]I like it, another way that the Patriots can beat you. It seems like almost every woodhead kickoff return went between the 15-20 yard line. Demps is so fast that he will be well down field by the time coverage even has a shot at him. We can also use him on offense a few plays a game. Screen pass ect.. just having him on the field would force defenses to account for him, opening up things for the other guys. Good signing.
    Posted by sporter81[/QUOTE]

    exactly.check the videos i posted
     
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    Great move by BB. I don't believe this is just another signing. This guy is really going to help this team. The obvious is special teams. Demps' speed and quickness is made for the return game. His burst is unbelievable. The guy can accelerate through a hole at the drop of a dime. A serious return game could really help this team. This alone makes it worth it for me. The guy gives us much more though. He adds versatility , depth and explosion to our team. One other thing I want to add is that there are a few things people have wrong about him. His size and hands are what they are. No denying that. The kid does have some shake to his game though. It's not like he can't make a cut or a fake. Plus Demps has shown many times the ability to get edge on a toss , for example. This is a great move imo.
     
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    [QUOTE]Sweet......any Olympic Shot Putting OT's out there?
    Posted by tcal2-[/QUOTE]

         LOL!!!
     
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         Expect Demps to end up on the PUP list. He lost 15 pounds, in order to prepare for the Olympics. He'll likely need to reacquire that muscle and weight before he takes the field.
     
         Demps supposedly chose the Pats over the Buccaneers and the Jets. So, you can bet that Goblin fans are a bit miffed...LOL!!
    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/sprinter_demps_chooses_patriots_9dIfsTqpst8POsqCoJOGwK
     
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    Once he puts the Pats uniform on he'll be the fastest NFL player ever at the 100 yard dash - 10.01 besting Bob Hayes's 10.05.

    One of the fastest officially recorded 40 yard dash times also at 4.24 versus a recorded time of 4.21 for Deion Sanders. Lots of lower times that were not 'official' by others. Demps is in rarified air with those numbers and he doesn't look fragile either.

    That pitchout wide left in the video! Turns that defender into a statue and flies right by. 

    It's going to be a great year for football in New England.
     
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    If he makes the team he changes how teams prepare for a TB offense,just the threat of a burner in the backfield means defense's must respect the run regardless of the passing prowess of TB then add in the screen possibilities and that eliminates the doubles from LB's on Gronk,Welker and Hernandez! The biggest question will be health of Demps...If is still the operative word,he stays healthy and this offense is ready the numbers could be completely off the charts!
     
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    [QUOTE]If he makes the team he changes how teams prepare for a TB offense,just the threat of a burner in the backfield means defense's must respect the run regardless of the passing prowess of TB then add in the screen possibilities and that eliminates the doubles from LB's on Gronk,Welker and Hernandez! The biggest question will be health of Demps...If is still the operative word,he stays healthy and this offense is ready the numbers could be completely off the charts!
    Posted by sportsbozo1[/QUOTE]

    Yes, having a guy like that who is that fast makes the defense have to adjust. Its not like the Patriots don't already have enough weapons. Some of these other guys who have been ganged up on  before will be running free. Demps doesn't have to even do anything, just having him out there will cause problems for defenses.
     
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    One Big Negitive he will have to correct with the Pats:

    "One of the knocks on Demps is ball security, as he fumbled 11 times in 424 touches at Florida."
     
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    [QUOTE]Sweet......any Olympic Shot Putting OT's out there?
    Posted by tcal2-[/QUOTE]

    Ya, but she cannot get out of Belarus
     
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    [QUOTE]Once he puts the Pats uniform on he'll be the fastest NFL player ever at the 100 yard dash - 10.01 besting Bob Hayes's 10.05. One of the fastest officially recorded 40 yard dash times also at 4.24 versus a recorded time of 4.21 for Deion Sanders. Lots of lower times that were not 'official' by others. Demps is in rarified air with those numbers and he doesn't look fragile either. That pitchout wide left in the video! Turns that defender into a statue and flies right by.  It's going to be a great year for football in New England.
    Posted by stillgridlocked[/QUOTE]

    That is amazing!

    I wonder if we will PUP him to allow for him to get back in football shape. I read a report saying he lost 15#s training for the olymics.

    Anyway what a great move by BB. I wonder if offering a 3 year deal had anything to do with him choosing us over a few others.
     
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         Signing Demps is like the Pats picking up an extra draft choice, from last April's draft. Still, let's not get too carried away. He's small, has been injury prone, and has had fumbling problems in the past. For these reasons, he may not pan out. But, his world class speed makes him an intriguing prospect.
     
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    Gunner? 

     
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    [QUOTE]Gunner? 
    Posted by TheSalmon[/QUOTE]

    Only if he can tackle.  He's a relatively small guy, though, so I wouldn't expect a lot from him on kick off coverage teams.  
     
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    [QUOTE]Gunner? 
    Posted by TheSalmon[/QUOTE]

    Given his size and injury history I'd rather keep him specifically a KR, like Tate, and try to work him in on some specific trick plays and some deep routes. He would be interesting to walk in a screen with a couple of blockers out front

     
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    [QUOTE]     Signing Demps is like the Pats picking up an extra draft choice, from last April's draft. Still, let's not get too carried away. He's small, has been injury prone, and has had fumbling problems in the past. For these reasons, he may not pan out. But, his world class speed makes him an intriguing prospect.
    Posted by TexasPat[/QUOTE]

    Tex, did I read correctly that if Demps had gone to the combine and done alright that he had a 3rd rd grade? If so this is an absolute steal. We are possibly getting the fastest player in the NFL with very good experience from a great program.
     
    If it doesn't work out its not like we wasted a draft pick on him. This is a win win situation. Even if we PUP the guy till week 6 while he gets in football shape and then we only use him on kickoffs it is a great addition.
     
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    It would be cool to watch him and Slater help cover punts... but yea, probably right, too small and not enough tackling drills.

     
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     We will Choke again in the SB, because of  bonehead play calling by Belicheck. (3 and 3 from the 3 yd line, lets throw a bomb 2 no 1 from R Endzone) We don't need another RB, we need a big time deep threat at WR and a couple of Pass rushers. Kraft will never go 4 that.
    Demps will B cut at the end of Training Camp.
     
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