Re: Denver Salary Cap Hell
posted at 2/8/2014 10:19 AM EST
In response to rkarp's comment:
In response to Muzwell's comment:
In response to mthurl's comment:
So many people love putting stats on this forum (especially to support their argument). Profootballfocus seems to be the flavor of choice as of late to find stats and make assumptions.,,,Mike REiss is another fan favorite with his happy outlook. Could someone google the internet to find how many players - who sign a big contract - actually play out the entire length of that contract without adjustments, restructures, reductions, extensions, etc? That's what I'd love to see, because there are thousands of NFL contracts - I guarantee most of them never see the end of that contract in it's entirety.
Many big flashy NFL contracts are a year or two (and alot of money) less than the stated value, because they're designed to be terminated (restructured or cut) before they reach their conclusion. They make the agent look good, make the player's wife happy and probably cause a lot of personal bankruptcies, but they don't mean all that much.
But some teams are undeniably better at salary cap management than others. If you pay top heavy, too many big dollar contracts, your mid level is going to be thin and you're going to need a lot of minimum salary players on your roster. It's the reason there are a lot of veteran football players on the street, even though they are better players than a lot of guys on rosters.
Seattle is where they are partly because they have a minimum salary QB and they hit on several late round draft picks, Sherman, Chancellor, Smith, etc. Outside of 2010, their first round picks haven't been anything special.
When all those guys, plus Thomas and a few others (Lynch) need to get paid, it's going to affect that team.
Muzzy, the bold print is incorrect. The Seahawks played a low salary QB the past 2 years, but had a high salary QB on the books in Flynn. The Seahwks had very big money in 2 WR's Harvin and Rice that both rarely played. They paid a TE more than Gronk and Hern combined. Lynch is getting big money for a RB. Red Bryant is also getting big money.
Yes, they do have young guys that will eventually have to get paid. But in Rice, Miller and in 2 years Lynch they will have $20-25M coming off the books...
You are absolutely right! Seattle went for it, they saw the opportunity and aggressively made their plays at high quality players, but really it was their drafting that won them that Super Bowl. Who the hell hits on as many very very good players in the later rounds like they did? I mean they found first round talent in the fifth...over and over again.
I'll tell you what though, I don't trust Pete Carroll with that bunch going forward...idi you see the way some of those guys act on that team? Immature, young, brash...and now they've won something. Good luck keeping those guys in check with Carroll leading that ship...not going to be pretty. Even their parade ceremony was embarrassing, with guys running behind Carroll as he's doing his speech...acting like children...I think things could go very wrong there in a hurry.