Re: Describe your avatar and screen name
posted at 5/14/2013 3:19 PM EDT
In response to antibody's comment:
In response to ATJ's comment:
In response to Philskiw1's comment:
No mention of ken norton eh?
I actually was at the bout in 1970 at the Olympic Auditorium in LA when Jose Luis Garcia (188 lbs if memory serves) KOed the to-that-point undefeated Ken Norton (app 210 lbs). Ringside seats for dirt money if you were active duty military. Norton was never in that fight. Garcia knocked him down in the 1st and a couple of other times in later rounds. My buddy and I thought that Garcia had Norton confused the entire fight. As I recall, Garcia knoced him down twice in the 8th and the ref simply called it. Either that or he couldn't come out for the 9th.
That may have been a turning point for Norton. It was clear to me that Norton did not expect this fight to be anything but a stepping stone and Garcia (a light heavy really) had other ideas. Kenny Norton was a highly competitive prize fighter but, in my opinion, does not belong in the same conversation as Ali, Frazier and the Rock. That's just my opinion.
In thier first fight Norton defeated Ali and broke his jaw. I believe, as do many others, that Norton won thier third fight although the decision was given to Ali. He most certainly does belong in the same conversation as Ali, Frazier and other great boxers of his time.
Really don't wish to blow up the thread but I simply do not agree that he belongs in the same conversation as Ali and Frazier. Norton has 7 losses, 4 by KO, 3 to the likes of Garcia, Earnie Shavers and Gerry Cooney and fought a draw with Scott LeDoux. Overall record of 42-7-1.
No one doubts Ali's greatness. Smokin' Joe had only 4 loses, 2 to Ali, 2 to George Foreman.
I'll grant you that the 3rd Ali fight was questionable but not that Ken Norton belongs in the conversation with Ali and Frazier.