Dez Bryant (2010) vs Aaron Dobson (2013)

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    Dont look now Crusty but pez is in your driveway taking a dump.

     
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    Decker, Thomas and Welker is a better WR corps than Thompkins, Dobson and Edelman. Would have thought that was obvious.



    Dez Bryant plays on the Cowboys.  

    Dobson>Thomas as rookies.  Edelman not far off of from Welker quality if implemented in gameplans as such.

    Amendola easily on par with Decker.




    The point is none of that is true,

    We are talking about 2013 right?

    Welker blows JE out of the water.  (4th stringer as your #1)

    Thomas blows Dobson out of the water  (Rookie)

    Decker blows Amendola and his 3 measly games, out of the water. Inactive for 5/6

    Thompkins (rookie  FA)  inactive.

    Boyce (rookie with one catch)  innactive

    Sudfeld,  (rookie)responsible for 2 picks and now on the jets.  Inactive

    Gronk hasn't played half the games.  Inactive for 6.

    Denver receivers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pats receivers.  Fact!



    Why didn't Gomer struggle adapting with his new WRs last year?  Hmm?

    Any way you try to wiggle out of it, you'll lose.  I'll take Brady every time outdoors in the postseason over Gomer, but when it comes to this discussion in terms of easily adapting to new talent, Gomer has never had such issues like Brady has had his entire career.

    Go back to 2002.  Branch, Givens and Hayes.   Two rooks, one FA and Brady folded like a cheap suit even with Brown and Patten here.   

    THis is nothing new. Brady sucks at change.




    Ummm they were all accomplished NFL receivers, not the keystone cops, impersonating NFL receivers.

    Are you really that dumb to compare the 2?

    Apparently.

     
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    Your buddy Pezzy thinks Brady is above working with new WRs in any given season.  I am pointing out that supposed great draft picks in Rd 1, early in their careers, are not better than what Aaron Dobson is doing for our team right now.

    For the record, supposedly Thompkins was Inactive because BB sniffed out some over-confidence from the rookie

     

     

    Hey, areyou actually saying something good about Brady here?



    I am saying Brady wasted most of the first half of the year and the rookie WRs have been unfairly maligned in the process.

    Brady has been wildly erratic this year. It's ok to admit it.  Dobson's numbers would be better if Brady had been.



    http://www.patspulpit.com/2013/10/30/5047386/aaron-dobson-has-second-highest-drop-rate-amongst-all-receivers

    Dobson has been improving and it's an exciting thing for the offense going forward. Thanks TB.



    WHat about Brady's TD/INT ratio and compl%?

    Worst of his career.

     




    Ya, rookie receivers need to catch more than 40-50 % of their passes to be able to score points.

    Looked what happened when Gronk caught 90%.  4 tds to zero ints and 55, 55, 55, 55,   Amazing how that works!



    Look at Brady staring down Gronk vs Miami in the first half?  INt and crappy compl rate with binky addiction problem shining through.

    WHat is your point again? Brady sucks sometimes and needs to get his head out of his rectum more?




    90%>40%, even with double coverage against single coverage for the babies, it's still 90%

    Gronk makes mistakes too,  (bad route, PROVEN) especially on his first couple of games back.  But, even then, not near the mistakes  the guys not ready to start make.

     



    Obviously. And?  I never said rookies were experienced.  You're losing it, Pezzy.




    Ya, experience doesn't matter, on NFL offenses, especially when they are ALL inexperienced.

    I'd say you're losing it but I'm afraid I'd be 36 years too late.

    ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL readyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy goneeeeeeeee!  LMAO@u

     
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    It's important to look at these things in a big picture type of way.  Straight up catches is not way to judge a receiver just as the points given up by a defense is no way to judge a defensive lineman.  This year, Dobson is catching about 50% of the passes thrown his way, with a TD every 15 targets.  In his rookie year, Dez caught about 62.5% of the passes thrown his way with a TD every 7.5 passes. 

     
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    You can tell which threads are created by queenie just by reading titles lol

     
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    Don't you guys ever just get tired of the same old argument, day after day? 

    It's time to move on.

     
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    Experience matters, especially at QB. Brady is 36 and it might be too late. He's blown 2 SBs with arrogance and/or choke jobs staring down a chance at a ring.

     



    Defense  has allowed 2 last minute game winning drives of 83 and 88 yards after TFB gave the team the lead!  Thank you defense for losing two SB's, you suck!!

     



    No. 14 points cannot win playoff games, which you have been told about here numerous times.

    If Brady was so great, he wouldn't be so embarassing in these playoff games.

    You clearly have no friends. If you did, you'd be bombarded with emails, calls and texts as Brady craps himself in January and February like I am. And the fact is, I have no response as a PAts fan. It's the truth.

    Brady sucked.




    Have plenty of friends who mostly were here and every single one of them held their breath and turned blue each time the D took the field and kept Brady off of it for 2/3rds of the game.   And every single one of them (pats fan or not) knew what would happen on the last defensive drive.  Hard, (no impossible) to score from the bench and you've been told this 100000000 times.   Still, it hasn't sunk in?

    Talk about dense!  LMAO@U

     
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    Don't you guys ever just get tired of the same old argument, day after day? 

    It's time to move on.



    This is not an argument I introduced.  I am simply showing how one overrated, bi-polar WR in Dallas wasn't so great in his rookie year while one of our rookie WRs is unfairly maligned.

    The irony is, both Dobson and Thompkins have been impressive, so we have two WRs who aren't 1st rd picks who have progressed well so far.

    Add in the idea McCourty, could very well be a Pro Bowl FS as a 1st rd pick in 2010, and it makes it even funnier.

     




    Well, there's no argument from me regarding Thompkins and Dobson.  The fact is, the injuries on offense have actually helped to accelerate their development this year.  TB has been forced to look to them.  It couldn't have worked out any better, if you had planned it that way.

     
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    Don't you guys ever just get tired of the same old argument, day after day? 

    It's time to move on.



    This is not an argument I introduced.  I am simply showing how one overrated, bi-polar WR in Dallas wasn't so great in his rookie year while one of our rookie WRs is unfairly maligned.

    The irony is, both Dobson and Thompkins have been impressive, so we have two WRs who aren't 1st rd picks who have progressed well so far.

    Add in the idea McCourty, could very well be a Pro Bowl FS as a 1st rd pick in 2010, and it makes it even funnier.

     




    Dez Bryant is rated 8th best.  Rookie Terrance Williams at 35, Witten at 30.  All better than our best.  Rookie better than our best!

    Manning has Thomas, Decker, welker and Thomas TE in the top 44

    Brady has JE at 38 and Dobson at 42., in the top 50   That is it!

    Thank you BB.

     
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    Experience matters, especially at QB. Brady is 36 and it might be too late. He's blown 2 SBs with arrogance and/or choke jobs staring down a chance at a ring.

     



    Defense  has allowed 2 last minute game winning drives of 83 and 88 yards after TFB gave the team the lead!  Thank you defense for losing two SB's, you suck!!

     



    No. 14 points cannot win playoff games, which you have been told about here numerous times.

    If Brady was so great, he wouldn't be so embarassing in these playoff games.

    You clearly have no friends. If you did, you'd be bombarded with emails, calls and texts as Brady craps himself in January and February like I am. And the fact is, I have no response as a PAts fan. It's the truth.

    Brady sucked.




    Have plenty of friends who mostly were here and every single one of them held their breath and turned blue each time the D took the field and kept Brady off of it for 2/3rds of the game.   And every single one of them (pats fan or not) knew what would happen on the last defensive drive.  Hard, (no impossible) to score from the bench and you've been told this 100000000 times.   Still, it hasn't sunk in?

    Talk about dense!  LMAO@U



    You knew Tyree would have glue on his helmet and our great, veteran 2007 D would somehow be blamed?

    I just wish out GOAT HOF QB wouldn't channel Cutler in the postseason like he has been doing.

    That's what I wish for in January and February.

    Did you see McCown outplay Cutler the other night? Do you see how pathetic the overrated regular season golden boys are?  No one cares about meaningless stats. It's the postseason that matters and Brady has SUCKED overall for us since 2007.

    It's 2013.




    Ya, we ALL knew the D would blow the lead at the end.  And we were all blue in the face waiting for the D to get off the field. 

    The burning of hobbit, Hobbs lost the game, not the helmet catch.  Oh, and the int that wasn't, didn't help either.

      You knew the D would lose it too if you'd be honest a minute in your pathetic life.

    That's what D's with 92.7 DPR's do...  They lose games.  Especially Super Bowls.

     
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    No. These young WRs are learning and progressing while getting open.  A trial by fire looks to be working pretty well so far.

    Thanks, BB.



    Yeah, they're progressing.  Each week, they're getting better and better at getting paid not to play.  Dobson looks good.  Boyce and Tompkins?  Tell me about their progression.

     
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    This guy doesnt understand how Dobson could be better now than he was in weeks 1-5?

    Wow....Keep Reaching lil fella

     
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