Dez Bryant, The Miami Dolphins, and the is your mother a escort question.

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    LMAO. this thing with tiki barber brings the south park episode about Sex addiction too mind.
    Posted by R3S1N20


    I'll Tell you what too..I always thought Tiki's wife was pretty hot. They used to have her on the show with Ronde and his wife. This sounds like another Steve Phillips story but I hope this girl is better looking than Phillips girlfriend.
     
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    If I was buying a $40-50 million home, yacht, plane, plot of land, stock, anything of any value that I expect to grow through time, I would like to know everything there possibly is to know. I would certainly ask the question just to see the reaction because that reaction would be indicative of this player's attidude, mental stability, and intelligence. What will Dez do when another player on the field talks about his family? Is he going to throw punches, spit in his face, step on his head with cleats on? Over-sensitive people need to get over it. If getting millions of dollars for playing football, even before you step foot on the field, means being insulted by a question or two, so be it. It's a grown man's league.
    Posted by apdynasty23


    Question to you.. Should the gm's be able to ask ANY question
    they want to these players? An I mean ANY qeustion...
     
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    I can't believe everyone is ok with what Ireland said.  That's the kind of thing that deserves getting your skull bashed in with a baseball bat.
     
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    ive always thought that and believe me i very much believe in the vows of marriage, but if you were going to cheat on your wife atleast trade up dont trade down..and to anwser your question J yea i dont see any problem with that, asking any question to a player is reasonable. Because your still gonna get drafted by some one, your still gonna make Millions if your good. Pro sports are a little different than regular jobs and i think that is Why it is reasonable to ask any question, if you really feel uncomfortable with the question, express that to the interviewer i guess.  Idk, you really think tiki barbers wife is hot


     
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    Some of you may of heard of this, the whole story in short is that, in a pre-draft interview, between the Miamai Dolphins and Dez bryant, dolphins GM Jeff ireland asked Dez if his mother was a escort. I can kind of see Why Jeff ireland would ask dez that question, in the NFl you have players looking for any advantage they can get , albeit  mental or physical. And for EX: i wouldnt put it past someone like Joey porter(now with the cardinals) to try and get to Dez by  barking similar Remarks to him on the football field. the Football field is like vegas, what happens there stays there, so theres no reason some one wouldnt do this to dez. I feel Ireland was just trying to get a feel for how Dez would React ,if in a big game and someone(like joey porter) said somethings similair to what ireland said. How do you guys feel about this, was Ireland wrong to ask Dez this or can you see where he was coming from?????
    Posted by R3S1N20

    Are you honestly trying to justify Jeff Ireland asking a potential draftee/employee if his mother was a hoe. Please tell me you're joking! That question was posed to Dez Bryant because he's Dez Bryant. 

    On a personal note, I'm in a position where I interview and hire employees and there are strict rules as to what I can ask, what's off limits etc.,
    As an executive of a major sports franchise, in a market with many people of color, Jeff Ireland should have known better. As a matter of fact it doesn't matter if they were in a market with a large demographic of latin, blacks etc.,

    That was an incredibly stupid question to ask. And to even attempt to justify why he may have asked makes me wonder...





     
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    In Response to Re: Dez Bryant, The Miami Dolphins, and the is your mother a escort question. : Question to you.. Should the gm's be able to ask ANY question they want to these players? An I mean ANY qeustion...
    Posted by jbalance617


    I believe so, yes. They're the employer and what they ask will not harm any of the players in any way. Part of the interview process is reading body language, facial expressions, and obviously, how the candidate answers the question. Personally, if I were asked that, I'd simply respond with "No, she is not." Leave it at that. I'd be able to do it because I consider myself someone that's even-keeled and level-headed. If getting angry and defensive is your thing, believe it or not, it DOES give insight into what you'll do on the field and off. Again, just imagine what Dez would/could do if in the middle of a critical juncture in a playoff game an opposing player brought up his mother. Better yet, what would he do if he were at a bar during their bye week and someone asked about his mother? Asking a question like this in an interview room does go a long way, in my opinion.

    If players are OH SO livid about these types of things, they should find another occupation. Oh wait, who else will pay that kind of money to "do what you love to do" and "to do what you've always done since being a kid." It comes with the territory.
     
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    so, the rams i think it was( i may be wrong) but its ok for a team to ask toby geirhart how he feels about being a white player at a black mans position.
     
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    so, the rams i think it was( i may be wrong) but its ok for a team to ask toby geirhart how he feels about being a white player at a black mans position.
    Posted by R3S1N20


    Again, it's a great question if phrased properly. If they did ask it that way verbatim then their presentation is off but I'd phrase the question like this:

    "Toby, historically some of the greatest backs in the NFL have been African Americans. You were a great player at the college level, a tough runner, physical guy. What would you say to a team that told you they wouldn't draft you high or draft you at all because you're white?"

    HUGE difference in how that's asked but at the core, it's the same question. If a kid snaps at my version too, then yes he may not be the character guy you're looking for.
     
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    I can't believe everyone is ok with what Ireland said.  That's the kind of thing that deserves getting your skull bashed in with a baseball bat.
    Posted by themightypatriotz



    The wording was incorrect. What if he asked him if his mom was a crack dealer? She did do time for that. Would that be better?
     
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    I am with Mighty on this one there was no need to ask that question. It does not relate to his football play what so ever. Whether she a escort now or whether she used to be is no one's business. Now Mighty saying that this is the kind of thing someone should "have their head bashing with a baseball bat" over i do not agree. Should have have said it? Nope, should he be punished? yup would he have lost his job in any other profession? yup does he deserve to die a horrible and painful death for asking a bad question in a country with free speech? NO WAY. Call for the mans job but calling for his life is INSANE. Now punched in the face? I am down with that, but I wouldnt kill anyone over something like that, i might beat their a ss but murder is life in prison bro and i am all set with never being a free man again because some yuppy white d*ckhead in a $4000 dollar suite asked if my mom was a *whore or whatever. But all and all I agree with Mighty.
    Posted by MVPKilla2009


    The law should have an exception for calling (or implying or asking, whatever) someone's mother a hoe.  If someone says that about your mother, you should have the right to beat their head in.  If I were on the jury, I would vote not guilty, no matter what.
     
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    In Response to Re: Dez Bryant, The Miami Dolphins, and the is your mother a escort question. : I believe so, yes. They're the employer and what they ask will not harm any of the players in any way. Part of the interview process is reading body language, facial expressions, and obviously, how the candidate answers the question. Personally, if I were asked that, I'd simply respond with "No, she is not." Leave it at that. I'd be able to do it because I consider myself someone that's even-keeled and level-headed. If getting angry and defensive is your thing, believe it or not, it DOES give insight into what you'll do on the field and off. Again, just imagine what Dez would/could do if in the middle of a critical juncture in a playoff game an opposing player brought up his mother. Better yet, what would he do if he were at a bar during their bye week and someone asked about his mother? Asking a question like this in an interview room does go a long way, in my opinion. If players are OH SO livid about these types of things, they should find another occupation. Oh wait, who else will pay that kind of money to "do what you love to do" and "to do what you've always done since being a kid." It comes with the territory.
    Posted by apdynasty23



    Okay... So you go on a job interview... The person sits you down
    an ask you, "how big is your (u know what), how deep is your wife's (you know
    what), do you think your 2yr old duaghter will grow up to have a nice butt, when's the last time your mother gave or@l, does your granny like it rough?
    That body language excuse is a load of crap. If nfl players make mistakes they get suspended. Front office people have got to be more professional than this.
    There comes a point where you have got to draw the line.
    I'm just glad Dez Bryant didn't make a mistake an attack that man. 
     
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    In Response to Re: Dez Bryant, The Miami Dolphins, and the is your mother a escort question. : The law should have an exception for calling (or implying or asking, whatever) someone's mother a hoe.  If someone says that about your mother, you should have the right to beat their head in.  If I were on the jury, I would vote not guilty, no matter what.
    Posted by themightypatriotz



    I'm rockin' with you on this topic hands down!!!
     
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    In Response to Re: Dez Bryant, The Miami Dolphins, and the is your mother a escort question. : Okay... So you go on a job interview... The person sits you down an ask you, "how big is your (u know what), how deep is your wife's (you know what), do you think your 2yr old duaghter will grow up to have a nice butt, when's the last time your mother gave or@l , does your granny like it rough? That body language excuse is a load of crap. If nfl players make mistakes they get suspended. Front office people have got to be more professional than this. There comes a point where you have got to draw the line. I'm just glad Dez Bryant didn't make a mistake an attack that man. 
    Posted by jbalance617


    It's just me but I wouldn't mind. I'd ask "what does that have to do with anything?" and go from there; interviews don't have to be one-way. I just don't think the NFL can draw distinct lines for what's appropriate and what's not. I'm not saying Ireland asked it properly because he could have worded that much, much, much better. Is he wrong for wondering out loud? I don't think so...
     
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    In Response to Re: Dez Bryant, The Miami Dolphins, and the is your mother a escort question. : It's just me but I wouldn't mind. I'd ask "what does that have to do with anything?" and go from there; interviews don't have to be one-way. I just don't think the NFL can draw distinct lines for what's appropriate and what's not. I'm not saying Ireland asked it properly because he could have worded that much, much, much better. Is he wrong for wondering out loud? I don't think so...
    Posted by apdynasty23



    By you replying in that manner would suggest that
    the interviewer is asking dumb a** questions. What
    does your johnson size have to do with the job? Nothing!
    What does Dez Bryants mother have to do with football?
    Nothing!
     
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    If they asked every other player they were interviewing " is your mother a pros***e" it MIGHT be ok. The johnson size, well don't they measure everthing else. They prod and poke these guys like they are animals.  LOL they don't allow the word pro*******e?????
     
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    If any interviewer, in any context, asked me that question. That interview would be over. Simple as that.



     
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    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/29/ken-herock-says-no-question-is-off-limits-during-pre-draft-interviews/

     
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    Haven't read every post here so if this is a repetitive post I apologize. And it isn't exactly an apples-to-apples comparison, but here goes anyway.  Are any of you guys ex-military or police officers?  If so, you can probably corroborate or appreciate my post. 

    When I was younger and just out of the military (mid-90's), before going to college, I took the police exam in MA, NY and CT.  I thought I wanted to be in law enforcement and I cast a wide net.  There were slots available and as a veteran I got a chance at a police academy slot in two states. 

    I had multiple interviews and I won't get into specifics of who asked me what, but the screening process to become a police officer put me in a the position of having to answer a lot of personal -- and sometimes disturbing -- questions about myself.  As part of the interview and screening process, you expect to be asked about things like past drug use or arrests, your work habits, ever cheat in school, etc.  But I was taken off guard and couldn't believe they got into asking potential recruits crazy stuff like sexual deviancy along with some very personal family questions.  Your life is an open book, and the answers you give to questions about these things solidify you as a candidate or eliminate you.  

    So was asking Bryant these questions appropriate?  Let's put it this way; the police academy and the military both use similar tactics to weed out people, and it can be effective.  They want to know how you respond to adversity, how do you handle yourself in a tense situation.  The fact that the story made the paper tells me that Bryant may be a bit thin skinned and that he took the line of questioning as personal and not part of the screening process.  I bet other potential Miami draftees were asked similar questions, not just by Miami but across the league.  And I bet it happens every year.  I'm sure Ireland in his heart feels like he doesn't need to apologize but the national publicity is making him feel compelled to do so.       

    I look at football as a lot like the military and the police academy.  If you've played football and/or have been in the military, you understand what I mean.  It's very regimented, physical, and you're part of a team trying to accomplish one goal not an individual trying to accomplish your own personal goals.  Sometimes it takes something like pointed questions to weed people out, especially those that aren't mentally tough, to be sure that you're not bringing the whole unit down. 

    As the potential recipient of millions of dollars from a pro sports team, I have no issue with the Dolphins asking that question.  Bryant should have handled the situation much differently, and I'm sure today the Dolphins may be ok with having passed him over in the draft because at the very least it looks like he's running to the press to deal with the situation rather than handling it like a man.   
     
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    If any interviewer, in any context, asked me that question. That interview would be over. Simple as that.
    Posted by p-mike


    That's an interesting point..If these guys get up and walk out then they lose.
    This is sort of like hazing and if you want to get into the fraternity you have to sit there and take the abuse and make believe it doesn't bother you. The answer to the problem is simple. You sit there and smile and take all the $#@% that they hand out. You shake their hands afterward and then on the way to your car you cut all of their tires and head home.
     
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    In Response to Re: Dez Bryant, The Miami Dolphins, and the is your mother a escort question. : That's an interesting point..If these guys get up and walk out then they lose. This is sort of like hazing and if you want to get into the fraternity you have to sit there and take the abuse and make believe it doesn't bother you. The answer to the problem is simple. You sit there and smile and take all the $#@% that they hand out. You shake their hands afterward and then on the way to your car you cut all of their tires and head home.
    Posted by underdogggg

    Of course this doesn't always work as you are well aware 4g with what is going on in Indiana.  Where, exactly do you live.  Wondering if you have any insight into the issue.
     
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    In Response to Re: Dez Bryant, The Miami Dolphins, and the is your mother a escort question. : Of course this doesn't always work as you are well aware 4g with what is going on in Indiana.  Where, exactly do you live.  Wondering if you have any insight into the issue.
    Posted by underdoggg


    Man..The very next thread I go to you are attacking him again for making a joke. Cyber Stalking is against the law doggg. I think you should find some help.
     
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    Rob, you make a well-reasoned argument, but I'm having a little trouble equating catrching a football with putting your life on the line in defense of your country or your community. As for the number of dollars potentially at risk, there's an old joke about this regarding establishing first what a person is and then haggling over price later. My question to anyone who sees this as perfectly acceptable would be: How much money would I have to offer you for you to sit there quietly while I broadcast to the world that your mother is a wh*re?

    Which, of course, brings up the other question of who, exactly, is responsible for this thing having gone public.

    A very messy situation all around, if you ask me.

    Ugly.

     
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    P-mike

    I read your earlier post and I agree that it would be hard to sit there and take that question.  And I don't dispute that football players aren't holding guns or serving the public, hence my "not apples-to-apples comment".  Even though I never became a police officer and felt a little disrespected about some of the questions I was asked in the screening process, I knew in the back of my head that part of the questioning prospective cops get is to assess them in the mental dept. The whole publicity issue of his being asked that question probably came from him, and I guarantee that Dez is not the first or the last guy to be asked a deeply personal question during a job screening process that made him mad.


    So as much as I agree that I'd be tempted to jump over the table to smash someone that called my mom a ho, I wouldn't.  Maybe his agent should have prepared him for that reality. 
     
     

     
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    P-mike I read your earlier post and I agree that it would be hard to sit there and take that question.  And I don't dispute that football players aren't holding guns or serving the public, hence my "not apples-to-apples comment".  Even though I never became a police officer and felt a little disrespected about some of the questions I was asked in the screening process, I knew in the back of my head that part of the questioning prospective cops get is to assess them in the mental dept. The whole publicity issue of his being asked that question probably came from him, and I guarantee that Dez is not the first or the last guy to be asked a deeply personal question during a job screening process that made him mad. So as much as I agree that I'd be tempted to jump over the table to smash someone that called my mom a ho, I wouldn't.  Maybe his agent should have prepared him for that reality.     
    Posted by BrooklineRob


    Anyone who doesn't respond by leaping across the table and bashing Ireland's head in is messed up in the mental dept.
     
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