Do Particular Coaching Styles Cause Injury?

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    Do Particular Coaching Styles Cause Injury?

    Was reading an article by noted Sports Psychologist, Alan Goldberg, about what makes a good coach.  In the article, he chronicled the journey of a baseball player and the effects coaching had on him.

    One thing of note in the journey of this player was that the stress on him to perform, resulting in constant "tightness of his body", made him susceptible to injury and ultimately injured

    He also went on to describe what a good coach is and is not.

    I realize we are talking about grown men and professionals but it stands to reason that some styles of coaching might be detrimental to their careers and the cause of injury.

    Thoughts?

    https://www.competitivedge.com/special-%E2%80%9Cwhat-makes-good-coach%E2%80%9D

     
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    Particular coaches may cause more injuries for specific types of players. 

    There's an ample reservoir of sub-par players at home and sitting by the phone for each position.  If your team happens to be starting a sub-par player at that position and if his backup is just as sub-par, then losing that player and his backup too through injury isn't going to hurt the team that much.  As a result, it's probably better to send sub-par wide receivers over the middle a few times where they can get hammered.  It's probably better to let the trainer get these players an extra hundredth of a second of speed, as opposed to making these same players a bit less vulnerable to injury. 

    On the other end of the scale, if you have an elite player and his backup is sub-par, then it behooves you to keep the guy rather safe.  You don't want to be Rex Ryan putting the Sanchize out on the field in the fourth quarter of a preseason game.  Ryan won the Snoopy Bowl trophy but lost his starting QB for the season.  Then again, Mister Butt-Fumble could be seen as the epitome of the sub-par quarterback. 

     
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    In response to Paul_K's comment:

    Particular coaches may cause more injuries for specific types of players. 

    There's an ample reservoir of sub-par players at home and sitting by the phone for each position.  If your team happens to be starting a sub-par player at that position and if his backup is just as sub-par, then losing that player and his backup too through injury isn't going to hurt the team that much.  As a result, it's probably better to send sub-par wide receivers over the middle a few times where they can get hammered.  It's probably better to let the trainer get these players an extra hundredth of a second of speed, as opposed to making these same players a bit less vulnerable to injury. 

    On the other end of the scale, if you have an elite player and his backup is sub-par, then it behooves you to keep the guy rather safe.  You don't want to be Rex Ryan putting the Sanchize out on the field in the fourth quarter of a preseason game.  Ryan won the Snoopy Bowl trophy but lost his starting QB for the season.  Then again, Mister Butt-Fumble could be seen as the epitome of the sub-par quarterback. 




    Well, that too but the article refers more to a talented player asked to change to meet the needs of the team, rather than using his strengths, and the slump and injury that resulted because the player couldn't adjust and the ridicule that ensued, compounding the issue.

     
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    There is no doubt in my mind that what BB wants and expects out of his defensive back field is killer on those players. This team, this defense as it currently plays out under BB will always need extra DB's and the DB's on the field will always be dinged up. 

     
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    Re: Do Particular Coaching Styles Cause Injury?

    Greg William's style does.....

     
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    There is no doubt in my mind that what BB wants and expects out of his defensive back field is killer on those players. This team, this defense as it currently plays out under BB will always need extra DB's and the DB's on the field will always be dinged up. 

     



    Karp

     

    Our DB's "seem" to sustain a high rate of injury but how does it compare with the DB injury rate for the rest of the league? And what about BB's coaching style brings about this high rate of injury?

    Can you say more?

     
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    In response to NYC's comment:

    In response to rkarp's comment:

     

    There is no doubt in my mind that what BB wants and expects out of his defensive back field is killer on those players. This team, this defense as it currently plays out under BB will always need extra DB's and the DB's on the field will always be dinged up. 

     



    Karp

     

    Our DB's "seem" to sustain a high rate of injury but how does it compare with the DB injury rate for the rest of the league? And what about their BB's coaching style brings about this high rate of injury?

    Can you say more?



    BB insists his CB's set the edge and tackle. Other teams only want their CB's to cover and blitz (Jets for example)..Pats style of play is much more physical, with a CB often facing a pulling G, T or TE on the edge. The list is endless. Bodden, McCourt, Talib, Arrington, Phonzie...and on and on...

     
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    Re: Do Particular Coaching Styles Cause Injury?

    In response to pezz4pats's comment:

    Was reading an article by noted Sports Psychologist, Alan Goldberg, about what makes a good coach.  In the article, he chronicled the journey of a baseball player and the effects coaching had on him.

    One thing of note in the journey of this player was that the stress on him to perform, resulting in constant "tightness of his body", made him susceptible to injury and ultimately injured

    He also went on to describe what a good coach is and is not.

    I realize we are talking about grown men and professionals but it stands to reason that some styles of coaching might be detrimental to their careers and the cause of injury.

    Thoughts?

    https://www.competitivedge.com/special-%E2%80%9Cwhat-makes-good-coach%E2%80%9D



    Well BB has a style that sais, "noone is bigger than the team and you must do a myriad of things to stick unless you are an all pro player"  He made an exception w/Seymour and tried to make him a "flex" player by putting him at FB which resulted in injury and bad blood for his remaining time here.

    If he isnt asking his ALL Pros to play in unfamiliar positions, he is Asking TOO much of them in terms of Snap count. I sat here and watched as Wilfork Deteroriated year after year due to being the only talent on the line(post seymour) and it came to a head last year when he played on a bad ankle and is body compensated for it causing a season ending Achilles injury.

    I have watched my favorite player Tom Brady be Used and Abused like Cattle due to BB Not fielding a competent Defense for years and for years, he had to have offseason surgeries for torn rotator cuffs, Shoulder surgeries,etc to the point where now we blame him for Not being able to carry the team anymore. IN his last years where most HOF Qbs like Manning enjoy all pro weaponry at every spot, he is forced to make diamonds from rocks with cast offs like Collie and rookies like Dobson. His Body is gonna give in a couple years where as if he had a normal workload, he may have played into his 40s like a Rich Gannon.

    Ive Watch one of the greatest talents Ever in Gronkowski his rookie year thinking "Wow, this guy is gonna go down as the best ever!" then as usual, BB saw he had something special and made him the focal point of the Offense. He had a great year coming off his rookie campaign but did too much because we had NO outside WR threat and now Gronk is lumbering downfield on corner routes(Both His ankle injury and knee injury came on deep patterns) and getting himself hurt and will probably Never be the same player after the high amount of punishment his body has taken in the last 2 years.

    BB Loves to Ride his Best players Due to their backups being "MeH" or Jags and then has the nerve to Kick them on the way out(wes welker) Once that player has taken too many hits.

     
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    Re: Do Particular Coaching Styles Cause Injury?

     Not sure about coaching styles, but playing styles certainly do.

     I've always been curious though, why don't any teams make their players wear knee braces in practice and training camp? It seems like every year there are players blowing out their knees in training camp. If they wore them on both sides of the ball wouldn't it even out?

     
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    Re: Do Particular Coaching Styles Cause Injury?

    For quite a while BB was drafting little bug boy defensive backs, not good for general longevity.  Then he'd put them in and they'd get hammered.  BB always had a wide receiver such as Edelman or Troy Brown ready to play defensive backfield, because he knew that he might run out of bodies.

     
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