Yes, they have a declining Brady, Gronk, Hernandez - but early in the offseason clearly have to add some talent in all 3 phases of the game. They arguably have the best coach in the NFL. But do they have the "it" factor? Even with the improved talent this past season - they seemed to lack the "it" factor: the attitude, desire, fire, hunger, ect.....
Do Patsies Have "It"
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Do Patsies Have "It"
posted at 2/4/2013 6:45 AM EST
- anonymis
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Re: Do Patsies Have
posted at 2/4/2013 6:57 AM EST
- Iceman4
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No swagger
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Re: Do Patsies Have
posted at 2/4/2013 7:11 AM EST
- digger0862
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Parcells was right.
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Re: Do Patsies Have
posted at 2/4/2013 7:16 AM EST
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In response to digger0862's comment:
Parcells was right.
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Re: Do Patsies Have
posted at 2/4/2013 8:26 AM EST
- mrmojo1120
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In response to digger0862's comment:
Parcells was right.
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Re: Do Patsies Have
posted at 2/4/2013 9:50 AM EST
- Homecheese
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Parcells was right.
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Re: Do Patsies Have
posted at 2/4/2013 12:28 PM EST
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lmao. What? That fans are blind or spoiled? I'm thinkin' both are true - there are some fans who are spoiled....and there are fans who are blind. There are also plenty of people in between the two extremes.
This team is still more finesse than not.
It's exactly like it was 10-12 years ago when the Colts won lots of games - and the Patriots OWNED that team. The Patriots were able to play physical - Brady PROTECTED the ball and passed to the open receiver (vs. FORCING the ball and getting INTs), and special teams and the defense were able to make enough TIMELY plays. Problem is that the current Patriots falls just shy of the physical talent and hunger needed to beat teams like the Ravens and 49ers.
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Re: Do Patsies Have
posted at 2/4/2013 3:48 PM EST
- Muzwell
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In response to anonymis' comment:
lmao. What? That fans are blind or spoiled? I'm thinkin' both are true - there are some fans who are spoiled....and there are fans who are blind. There are also plenty of people in between the two extremes.
This team is still more finesse than not.
It's exactly like it was 10-12 years ago when the Colts won lots of games - and the Patriots OWNED that team. The Patriots were able to play physical - Brady PROTECTED the ball and passed to the open receiver (vs. FORCING the ball and getting INTs), and special teams and the defense were able to make enough TIMELY plays. Problem is that the current Patriots falls just shy of the physical talent and hunger needed to beat teams like the Ravens and 49ers.
Ravens fans were saying some version of this last year at this time. It's not liike they added all kinds of talent this year, same cast of characters, they just played better. Niners fans are saying it now. The shortcomings of every team that falls short are magnified in these games.I don't think physicality is the problem with the Pats. It was that they played a poor game, lost Talib, missed Gronk, dropped some balls, sketchy QB play, questionable decisions, concussed RB drops the ball....
Do they need more talent at a few positions, sure, but to think there's some huge talent gap between them and the SB teams is not correct in my opinion. They just need to play better.
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Re: Do Patsies Have
posted at 2/4/2013 4:03 PM EST
- bostatewarrior
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The Pats should win the Super Bowl every year. I blame Mayor Madinio
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Re: Do Patsies Have
posted at 2/4/2013 5:22 PM EST
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Do fans of the Patriots call the team Patsies?
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Re: Do Patsies Have
posted at 2/4/2013 7:16 PM EST
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Do fans of the Patriots call the team Patsies?
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Re: Do Patsies Have
posted at 2/4/2013 7:18 PM EST
- bredbru
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In response to anonymis' comment:
Yes, they have a declining Brady, Gronk, Hernandez - but early in the offseason clearly have to add some talent in all 3 phases of the game. They arguably have the best coach in the NFL. But do they have the "it" factor? Even with the improved talent this past season - they seemed to lack the "it" factor: the attitude, desire, fire, hunger, ect.....
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Re: Do Patsies Have
posted at 2/4/2013 7:19 PM EST
- BabeParilli
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MEDIOCRE team + HOF QB = in the mix, but not especially likely to win it all.
Tell the "greatest GM of all-time" to stop screwing up and the chances improve dramatically. (Not that there is much time left to do that.)
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Re: Do Patsies Have
posted at 2/4/2013 7:20 PM EST
- BabeParilli
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In response to newenglanderinexile's comment:
Do fans of the Patriots call the team Patsies?
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Re: Do Patsies Have
posted at 2/4/2013 7:25 PM EST
- JohnTAlouette
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Gronk is one of the greatest tight ends I have ever seen. He's their jump ball guy. You need a guy like that. When he went down I knew we had lost our advantage. Run-blocking, too.
You need all your horses.
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Re: Do Patsies Have
posted at 2/4/2013 7:46 PM EST
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In response to JohnTAlouette's comment:
Gronk is one of the greatest tight ends I have ever seen. He's their jump ball guy. You need a guy like that. When he went down I knew we had lost our advantage. Run-blocking, too.
You need all your horses.
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Re: Do Patsies Have
posted at 2/4/2013 11:32 PM EST
- bostatewarrior
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Re: Do Patsies Have
posted at 2/5/2013 12:13 AM EST
- 42AND46
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In response to anonymis's comment:
Yes, they have a declining Brady, Gronk, Hernandez - but early in the offseason clearly have to add some talent in all 3 phases of the game. They arguably have the best coach in the NFL. But do they have the "it" factor? Even with the improved talent this past season - they seemed to lack the "it" factor: the attitude, desire, fire, hunger, ect.....
no they just to a better teamthe rest is just nonsense
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Re: Do Patsies Have
posted at 2/5/2013 6:47 AM EST
- anonymis
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In response to 42AND46's comment:
no they just lost to a better teamthe rest is just nonsense
i dunno about that. Why is it that the Patriots had better success beating the Colts about 10-12 years ago. They were built to beat teams like the Colts back then. This team is very similar to the offensive jaugernaut that the Colts used to be. Like the olde Colts - teams like the Ravens and 49ers are built to beat these Patriots.