Does bb cut cunningham in offseason? if he needs peds just to make it to this level of play, what will he be without it.

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    Does bb cut cunningham in offseason? if he needs peds just to make it to this level of play, what will he be without it.

    only problem, knowing bb, and his stubborness/defiance, he might be more likely to keep him BECAUSE of this. i hope not. we gotta do better than cunn., esp with what i suspect as steroids out of his system.

     
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    Re: Does bb cut cunningham in offseason? if he needs peds just to make it to this level of play, what will he be without it.

    In response to Neal Page's comment:

    What is the PED he took? As far as the public knows, it was Adderall, an amphetamine, which is not a PED. Nor is it a steroid. Get your facts straight, which we know is tough for you.

    BB called each suspension (Bolden and Cunningham) avoidable and "not a big deal".

    Will you ever kiss a girl? That's really a better question for us to ponder from you Bdbreu.

     



    this is exaclty why no one with any sense (or self respect) should ever respond to you on the board. 

     
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    Re: Does bb cut cunningham in offseason? if he needs peds just to make it to this level of play, what will he be without it.

    It's possible he used Adderall, the new popular PED. 

    The NFL has refered to Adderall as a PED since 2006 and the Nevada State Athletic Comission also referes to Adderall as a PED.  The NSAC is one of the top athletic comissions in the country.

     

     
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    Re: Does bb cut cunningham in offseason? if he needs peds just to make it to this level of play, what will he be without it.

    In response to TFB12's comment:

    It's possible he used Adderall, the new popular PED. 

    The NFL has refered to Adderall as a PED since 2006 and the Nevada State Athletic Comission also referes to Adderall as a PED.  The NSAC is one of the top athletic comissions in the country.

     



    tfb, adderall is used to mask testosterone and doesnt ake a player bigger and stronger.

    either way, any substance help he needs, which is not allowed, now he cant use. he was marginal with it, do we want him without it.

     
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    Re: Does bb cut cunningham in offseason? if he needs peds just to make it to this level of play, what will he be without it.

    Why try to predict the future if you're BB?  Keep him if he's good, cut him if he's not- you have through training camp to decide.  BTW- you don't "know BB" or his perceived stubbornness.  His reputation is opposite of what you are accusing.  BB does not keep players who underperform because he drafted them.  See- Meri, Wheatley, Jackson, Butler, Price, etc.  

     
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    Re: Does bb cut cunningham in offseason? if he needs peds just to make it to this level of play, what will he be without it.

    In response to shenanigan's comment:

    Why try to predict the future if you're BB?  Keep him if he's good, cut him if he's not- you have through training camp to decide.  BTW- you don't "know BB" or his perceived stubbornness.  His reputation is opposite of what you are accusing.  BB does not keep players who underperform because he drafted them.  See- Meri, Wheatley, Jackson, Butler, Price, etc.  



    thanks for the thoughts (agreed or not).

     
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    Re: Does bb cut cunningham in offseason? if he needs peds just to make it to this level of play, what will he be without it.

    In response to bredbru's comment:

    tfb, adderall is used to mask testosterone and doesnt ake a player bigger and stronger.



    A drug does not need to make you bigger or stronger to be considered a PED.

    Adderall can enhance concentration while giving you a ton of energy without hitting the wall or crash effect when it wears off.  Is this not performence enhancing?  Yes, my friend it is and any drug that will increase your performance an in way is a PED.

     
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    Re: Does bb cut cunningham in offseason? if he needs peds just to make it to this level of play, what will he be without it.

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    In response to bredbru's comment:

    tfb, adderall is used to mask testosterone and doesnt ake a player bigger and stronger.



    A drug does not need to make you bigger or stronger to be considered a PED.

    Adderall can enhance concentration while giving you a ton of energy without hitting the wall or crash effect when it wears off.  Is this not performence enhancing?  Yes, my friend it is and any drug that will increase your performance an in way is a PED.



    hey tfb, the point of the thread is to ask if cunningham should be retained next year if he needs ANY PED to just get up to marginal (adderall or otherwise).

    2ndly re my comment, i clearly am saying that I DO BELIEVE that he may be using steroids (and masking with adderall). he may not. maybe hes on adderall and hgh (and that is why hes put on the size).

    thanks

    peace man.

     
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    Re: Does bb cut cunningham in offseason? if he needs peds just to make it to this level of play, what will he be without it.

    Cunningham got faster and stronger this past offseason. He definitely used some steroids. All we know is that he "admitted" to Adderall, but that doesn't make it the truth. Cunningham isn't obligated to tell us what he actually took. He can say nothing, lie, tell the truth, tell half the truth, whatever.

     

    Whether he gets cut...

    That's what camp is for

     
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    Re: Does bb cut cunningham in offseason? if he needs peds just to make it to this level of play, what will he be without it.

    Perfect world to me is:

    I think theyre's a fair chance that the Pats spend a top pick on a dlineman though. Which would make Cunningham more expendable than he already is

     
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    Re: Does bb cut cunningham in offseason? if he needs peds just to make it to this level of play, what will he be without it.

    In response to dapats1281's comment:

    Cunningham got faster and stronger this past offseason. He definitely used some steroids. All we know is that he "admitted" to Adderall, but that doesn't make it the truth. Cunningham isn't obligated to tell us what he actually took. He can say nothing, lie, tell the truth, tell half the truth, whatever.

     

    Whether he gets cut...

    That's what camp is for



    agree with your inital points.

    re camp.

    thats what sports boards are for ...to discuss guess, specualte and everything else on sports

    i asked do you think he will or should be cut after this year. no comment is fine. if you do respond here, would like to know your thought on this.

     
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    Re: Does bb cut cunningham in offseason? if he needs peds just to make it to this level of play, what will he be without it.

    Let's stop this BS right now, crusty.

    1, It is a PED  Do you even know what performance enhancing means?

    2,, it's a banned substance

    3, it is illegal to take without a prescription

    5, there is ZERO proof that aderall is even what he took.  It could be anything from Sudephed to HGH.

    6, Players are copping to it because it seems to be the lesser of the evils.  But JohnQPublic really doesn't know.  You can only speculate.  I'm sure BB thinks any PED is unneccessary!

    Meaning they don't need crap to perform.

    7, Please S T F U about this.  You are obviously very WRONG and your opinion means squat, especially since your opinion is  flat out WRONG!

    Not only is it wrong, your insistance that Aderall is NOT A PED, is a flat out lie.

     

    Adderall, which is banned by virtually every sports organization, provides many benefits to

    athletes, say medical experts. "There's no question it's a performance-enhancing drug," says Dr. Gary Wadler, a past chairman of the World Anti-Doping Agency's Prohibited List Committee.

    The potential lure becomes obvious when Dr. Gary Wadler, past chairman of the World Anti-Doping Agency's Prohibited List Committee, begins listing off the benefits of Adderall to an athlete.

    "It masks fatigue, masks pain, increases arousal — like being in The Zone," begins Wadler, currently an associate professor of medicine at Hofstra North Shore-LIJ School of Medicine, in a phone interview.

    "It increases alertness, aggressiveness, attention and concentration. It improves reaction time, especially when fatigued. Some think it enhances hand-eye coordination. Some believe it increases the mental aspects of performance."

    That's not to mention possible increases in acceleration, speed, strength and power that accrue to Adderall users. It's no wonder that Wadler calls Adderall "one of the quintessential performance-enhancing drugs. There's no question it's a performance-enhancing drug."

    Adderall has been banned by virtually every sports organization, from the NCAA to MLB to the NFL. But the NFL, like other sports, allows players who have a medical need for the drug to use it without penalty, after they have applied for and been granted a Therapeutic Use Exemption.

    The NFL doesn't disclose the number of therapeutic exemptions issued, but MLB in 2011 granted 105. Such numbers were an eye-opener to Wadler.

     

     
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    Re: Does bb cut cunningham in offseason? if he needs peds just to make it to this level of play, what will he be without it.

    In response to Neal Page's comment:

    In response to dapats1281's comment:

    Cunningham got faster and stronger this past offseason. He definitely used some steroids. All we know is that he "admitted" to Adderall, but that doesn't make it the truth. Cunningham isn't obligated to tell us what he actually took. He can say nothing, lie, tell the truth, tell half the truth, whatever.

     

    Whether he gets cut...

    That's what camp is for




    "The suspension could have been avoided.  It's not a big deal." - BB

    I am pretty sure that if it was roids BB isnt going public, on record, saying that. Yeah, just checked.  BB just confirmed it WAS NOT roids.

    Please get a clue on the topic.

     

     

     



    True. BB has always been straightforward with the media. Especially with his injuries reports. Not like BB would ever say anything to protect a player of his

    Thank god you're close with Cunningham and BB. You're insider sources are really useful

     

    You're probably the most naive person to think Cunningham's improved strength, speed and play was just from using Adderall to study a playbook

     
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    Re: Does bb cut cunningham in offseason? if he needs peds just to make it to this level of play, what will he be without it.

    In response to Neal Page's comment:

    In response to pezz4pats's comment:

    Let's stop this BS right now, crusty.

    1, It is a PED  Do you even know what performance enhancing means?

    2,, it's a banned substance

    3, it is illegal to take without a prescription

    5, there is ZERO proof that aderall is even what he took.  It could be anything from Sudephed to HGH.

    6, Players are copping to it because it seems to be the lesser of the evils.  But JohnQPublic really doesn't know.  You can only speculate.  I'm sure BB thinks any PED is unneccessary!

    Meaning they don't need crap to perform.

    7, Please S T F U about this.  You are obviously very WRONG and your opinion means squat, especially since your opinion is  flat out WRONG!

    Not only is it wrong, your insistance that Aderall is NOT A PED, is a flat out lie.

     

    Adderall, which is banned by virtually every sports organization, provides many benefits to

    athletes, say medical experts. "There's no question it's a performance-enhancing drug," says Dr. Gary Wadler, a past chairman of the World Anti-Doping Agency's Prohibited List Committee.

    The potential lure becomes obvious when Dr. Gary Wadler, past chairman of the World Anti-Doping Agency's Prohibited List Committee, begins listing off the benefits of Adderall to an athlete.

    "It masks fatigue, masks pain, increases arousal — like being in The Zone," begins Wadler, currently an associate professor of medicine at Hofstra North Shore-LIJ School of Medicine, in a phone interview.

    "It increases alertness, aggressiveness, attention and concentration. It improves reaction time, especially when fatigued. Some think it enhances hand-eye coordination. Some believe it increases the mental aspects of performance."

    That's not to mention possible increases in acceleration, speed, strength and power that accrue to Adderall users. It's no wonder that Wadler calls Adderall "one of the quintessential performance-enhancing drugs. There's no question it's a performance-enhancing drug."

    Adderall has been banned by virtually every sports organization, from the NCAA to MLB to the NFL. But the NFL, like other sports, allows players who have a medical need for the drug to use it without penalty, after they have applied for and been granted a Therapeutic Use Exemption.

    The NFL doesn't disclose the number of therapeutic exemptions issued, but MLB in 2011 granted 105. Such numbers were an eye-opener to Wadler.

     



    Here he comes, folks! LOL!  Exclamation points and desperation won't work. Adderall is also not a masking agent. ANOTHER lie by your allies here.

    If there isn't 100% medical agreement, then it's not a definitive. Period.




    Devert much?   Now it's not a masking agent.  It is a PED.  Stop with the lies.

    The whole world is laughing at you.  Heck, I bet even TOM BRADY is laughing at you.

    Oh, and please devulge what this mysterious lawsuit is that the NFL is afraid of.  Asked you 4 times last night and never got an answer.  Did you fantasize one yet?  Pfft.

    How anyone can pass this BS off as fact is beyond human reasoning.  It makes no sense.

    You make no sense.

     
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    Re: Does bb cut cunningham in offseason? if he needs peds just to make it to this level of play, what will he be without it.

    The NFL never said Adderall was what Cunningham tested positive for.

    A league source made that claim.

    That league source most likely got that information from Cunningham or someone in Cunningham's circle because those who actually looked at the drug test results are obligated to keep that information private.

     
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    Re: Does bb cut cunningham in offseason? if he needs peds just to make it to this level of play, what will he be without it.

    In response to Neal Page's comment:

    Yes, the people you're aligning with keep repeating lies because they read a blog. It's disturbing.

    Last time:

    Just because a league wants to protect itself listing a brand name designer drug and list as a PED, it doesn't mean it's been proven to enhance an athlete's performance.   Good for the NFL they list it as one for protection and lawsuit purposes, but Adderall ain't a PED.

    Adderall is the same thing as Ritalin, but you don't see Ritalin listed as a PED.  Know why? Because Aderrall is the more popular choice for doctors these days and its replaced Ritalin.  Funny how this work$ isn't it, Pezz?


    You're talking to someone in the industry here, stupid.

    They also don't list other amphetamines like coke or crack because they aren't manufactured.   You're so uninformed on this it's hilarious.   I coould give two shitzs if any athlete uses Adderall if they think it will help them. It won't and it after that you're looking at potential of addiction and a health issue.  The NFL is considered about money. That's it.

     

     




    Brett Hartmann was suspended for using Ritalin...

     
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