Dominique Easley could redefine New England’s defensive fronts

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    Then again don't even get me started about Hernandez. Everybody knew about this guys affinity for shooting people. It was common knowledge. "Red flags" everywhere. BB is so bad at his job.

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    All this hype over a guy who has NEVER stayed healthy and only had 5.5 sacks in his 4 year college career.  Give me a break! 

     

     
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    Well he had better be all we hope, because we need him to be and we drafted him high. I think this is the type of player we need - and been lacking for some time - the type of guy who can potentially ruin a passing game and make players around him better (Chandler Jones comes to mind).

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    Ya right, this is a guy we've "needed for a long time".  We've had plenty of over-hyped injury prone guys who never have or will live up to expectations. Amendola, Ras-I, Armond Armstead, the list goes on and on. Why are all the sheeple fooling themselves yet again? 

     
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    Yeah, if this guy is good, it will be a good pick up, but if this guy is bad.....it will be a bad pick up. If he gets hurt? Well then BB should have damn well known. This is where I firmly stand, right here on the fence ready to lean which ever way best suits me.

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    Nicely said lol!

     
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    Wow, you knew Dowling would be hurt? That's amazing man. Could you let us know what will happen with Easley? I'd rather not wait to find out. Also if you have any insight on whether or not Lebron will cramp up in the clutch again we would all love to hear about it. You must have cleaned up at the Belmont yesterday, what are we talking about...hundreds?  Thousands? Which was it you motor boatin sob! 

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    Maybe he read it in PFW's scouting report when Dowling was drafted?  See below. His expansive injury history was well known.    

     

    With the 33rd overall pick, and the first pick of the second round, the Patriots decided to hold onto the pick and select Virginia Tech CB Ras-I Dowling, a big, physical corner. There was a thought that the Patriots could address the secondary. Leigh Bodden's health is in question after he missed all of 2010, Kyle Arrington struggled in his time as the starter and Darius Butler has yet to prove himself. Dowling's physicality matches up well with 2010 first-round CB Devin McCourty. It's likely the Patriots were hoping to move down, as Dowling could have been available later, but clearly a potential trade with the Raiders fell through. Here is PFW draft expert Nolan Nawrocki's scouting report on Dowling from the 2011 Draft Preview book:

    Notes: Also played basketball and ran track as a Virginia prep, in addition to playing safety, receiver and some quarterback, though he broke his right hand as a junior and suffered a knee injury as a senior. Failed to qualify academically out of high school and attended Hargrave Military Academy (Va.) in 2006. Played in 12 games in '07, starting two in place of the injured starter, and recorded 44 tackles (16 on kickoff coverage), nine pass breakups and two interceptions with two forced fumbles. Did not play in the '08 season opener vs. USC (strained right hamstring) but started 9-of-11 games played and logged 43-11-3 with five tackles for loss. Was forced out of the North Carolina contest because of back pain. Started all 12 games in '09, totaling 58-8-3 with 2½ tackles for loss, one sack and two forced fumbles. Had an injury-plagued season in '10, playing in five games with two starts at cornerback - managed 15-1-0 despite missing time because of a hamstring strain, right knee injury and left ankle fracture. Team captain. Strained his right hamstring running the 40-yard dash at the Combine.

    Positives: Excellent body length. Quick feet and loose hips. Good athletic ability, movement skills and body control for a tall corner. Flips his hips and runs effortlessly downfield (see Clemson '09 vs. Raiders WR Jacoby Ford). Transitions efficiently. Plants and drives quickly and breaks on throws. Has leaping ability and good hands to make plays in the air and highpoint interceptions. Has special-teams experience. Solid personal and football character. Motivated and hardworking.

    Negatives: Inconsistent. Long strider who lacks elite top-end speed. Can better use his length and be more physical rerouting receivers off the line. Soft supporting the run. Average tackler. Durability is a concern - has been hurt dating all the way back to high school, missing significant action, and could always be snakebitten.

    Summary: Tall, narrow-framed, injury-prone corner who stood out, showing more talent than Vikings '10 second-rounder Chris Cook, last season when healthy, though he has not been able to escape injuries and may never. Has the length, athletic ability and ball skills desired to match up with big receivers at the next level and could be an asset in a cover-2 defense.

    NFL projection: Third- to fourth-round pick.

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    So.....you KNEW he was going to be injured? I wish Bill was as smart as you guys. Perhaps he doesn't know how to read? 

    Gronk is another great example of BB really screwing up. If he read Gronks draft report about his back injury he would have known he was going to shatter his forearm, and get his knee caved in at full speed by a safety. The guy is so shallow.

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    Then again don't even get me started about Hernandez. Everybody knew about this guys affinity for shooting people. It was common knowledge. "Red flags" everywhere. BB is so bad at his job.

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    Everyone knew there were risks.  Again, there are probabilities between 0 and 1.  What we are talking about here is managing risk. No one knows if the guy who's had three car accidents in the last year is going to have another one, but that doesn't mean you want to be the one to sell him auto insurance. 

     

     

     
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    Ya right, this is a guy we've "needed for a long time".  We've had plenty of over-hyped injury prone guys who never have or will live up to expectations. Amendola, Ras-I, Armond Armstead, the list goes on and on. Why are all the sheeple fooling themselves yet again? 

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    Who here predicted that Armond Armstead would come down with MRSA?  Was the guy bacteria-prone all the way through high school and college?

     
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    Ya right, this is a guy we've "needed for a long time".  We've had plenty of over-hyped injury prone guys who never have or will live up to expectations. Amendola, Ras-I, Armond Armstead, the list goes on and on. Why are all the sheeple fooling themselves yet again? 

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    Who here predicted that Armond Armstead would come down with MRSA?  Was the guy bacteria-prone all the way through high school and college?

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    I have no issue with a FA being brought here and suddenly getting an infection or some freak injury. What I DO have issue with is BB spending a 1st RD draft pick on a dude who couldn't stay healthy in college and expecting him to suddenly be the savior of the D. And it amazes me how all the homers can come out of the woodwork saying "IF" he stays healthy, how great he's gonna be. I also have a hard time stomaching the $$$ he gave Danny ontheMendola expecting HIM to suddenly not be an injury prone guy which he has proven to be his entire career. 

     
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    Look, I want all of our guys to be healthy and be Pro Bowlers as much as the next fan, but let's not be sending our guys like Easley, Amondola, and Armstead to Canton when they haven't even proven that they can stay healthy.  The definition of CRAZY is doing the same thing over again and expecting a different result. Guys who are always injuries usually stay that way.  A leopard doesn't change it's spots. Just being a realist. 

     
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    Then again don't even get me started about Hernandez. Everybody knew about this guys affinity for shooting people. It was common knowledge. "Red flags" everywhere. BB is so bad at his job.

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    Everyone knew there were risks.  Again, there are probabilities between 0 and 1.  What we are talking about here is managing risk. No one knows if the guy who's had three car accidents in the last year is going to have another one, but that doesn't mean you want to be the one to sell him auto insurance. 

     

     

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    What if you hire him and he becomes 1 of the best drivers you've ever employed for 3 years....which happens to be the average career for that given field. Did he help your business during that time?

    Perhaps if Tommy doesn't throw the 40 yard prayer interception to a DE or if our defense doesn't melt down in the final 3 minutes again then Hernandez and his 14 targets in the super bowl with a td is the Super Bowl MVP.

    You see there is risk verse reward everywhere,  the problem I have is with the "fans" who consistently complain about any move that doesn't end up working out. I think you guys need to step outside of your box and recognize the brilliance displayed over the last 13 years.  

    For every Dowling there is a Mankins, every Hernandez there is a Edelman or a Gronk. Not every move works out and to condemn any move that fails for a team that wins more then any other is just plain arrogant in my opinion.  

    But I digress, carry on good sir, show me the error of my ways.

     
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    Ya right, this is a guy we've "needed for a long time".  We've had plenty of over-hyped injury prone guys who never have or will live up to expectations. Amendola, Ras-I, Armond Armstead, the list goes on and on. Why are all the sheeple fooling themselves yet again? 

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    Who here predicted that Armond Armstead would come down with MRSA?  Was the guy bacteria-prone all the way through high school and college?

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    A very well stated point Paul and sums up this entire debate.  Who here predicted Gronk would shatter his forearm or get his knee caved into by a safety? Did that happen because he had "red flags" due to a back injury?  Who predicted a scrawny 199 pound 6th round draft pick would become the greatest QB to ever play?

    Oh wait, that Triple OG guy said he knew Brady would be Brady by watching him in training camp in 2000. But the rest of us had no idea(Yes OG I brought that up because of the random shot you took at me on another thread, I'm juvenile too)

     
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    Then again don't even get me started about Hernandez. Everybody knew about this guys affinity for shooting people. It was common knowledge. "Red flags" everywhere. BB is so bad at his job.

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    Everyone knew there were risks.  Again, there are probabilities between 0 and 1.  What we are talking about here is managing risk. No one knows if the guy who's had three car accidents in the last year is going to have another one, but that doesn't mean you want to be the one to sell him auto insurance. 

     

     

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    What if you hire him and he becomes 1 of the best drivers you've ever employed for 3 years....which happens to be the average career for that given field. Did he help your business during that time?

    Perhaps if Tommy doesn't throw the 40 yard prayer interception to a DE or if our defense doesn't melt down in the final 3 minutes again then Hernandez and his 14 targets in the super bowl with a td is the Super Bowl MVP.

    You see there is risk verse reward everywhere,  the problem I have is with the "fans" who consistently complain about any move that doesn't end up working out. I think you guys need to step outside of your box and recognize the brilliance displayed over the last 13 years.  

    For every Dowling there is a Mankins, every Hernandez there is a Edelman or a Gronk. Not every move works out and to condemn any move that fails for a team that wins more then any other is just plain arrogant in my opinion.  

    But I digress, carry on good sir, show me the error of my ways.

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    The fact that the NFL and every team spends millions on evaluating the risk value of injured players, isn't enough proof for you?  They specifically evaluate risk/durability issues.

    Now, I'm not privy to that info, but I cant imagine Players like Ras I, Easly and even Gronk, scoring well on those evaluations.

    While I can understand taking that risk on a lower round player, I think that constantly doing so with high picks is a recipe for disaster as they are already disadvantaged in a sport where injuries are prevalent.  The probability of it working out is much lower than a player without "issues".  The hit to the team with a high pick player is much greater when (as in reasonable probability) that high pick fails, as predicted.

    And BTW, I did great at the Belmont.  Predicted the winner and even predicted Crome would place 4th, despite  really wanting him to win.  My buddies are still cussing me.

    It has nothing to do with crystal balls or voodoo.  It has to do with the knowledge of the situation and probabilities of success.

    Also, Hernandez's psych evaluation described anti-social behavior and specifically noted that he may do something to harm his team.   Although it didn't specify murder, WARNINGS WERE OUT, PEOPLE!

     
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    Ya right, this is a guy we've "needed for a long time".  We've had plenty of over-hyped injury prone guys who never have or will live up to expectations. Amendola, Ras-I, Armond Armstead, the list goes on and on. Why are all the sheeple fooling themselves yet again? 

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    Who here predicted that Armond Armstead would come down with MRSA?  Was the guy bacteria-prone all the way through high school and college?

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    A very well stated point Paul and sums up this entire debate.  Who here predicted Gronk would shatter his forearm or get his knee caved into by a safety? Did that happen because he had "red flags" due to a back injury?  Who predicted a scrawny 199 pound 6th round draft pick would become the greatest QB to ever play?

    Oh wait, that Triple OG guy said he knew Brady would be Brady by watching him in training camp in 2000. But the rest of us had no idea(Yes OG I brought that up because of the random shot you took at me on another thread, I'm juvenile too)

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    Didn't he also have back surgery last year?

     
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    Shh, True flunked history. He likes to ram his head into the same concrete wall saying, this time it will turn into delicious pudding because you can't predict it will stay concrete. Even if you tell him that it will still be concrete when he runs into again he'll make fun of you and then say it was hindsight after he did it again.

    btw Pro, numbers aren't his strong suit. He is actually really bad with math so things like probability are over his head.


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    ^loll!

    All these tools think bb forgot to tune up his crystal ball.  Cannot be made up.

     
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    ^loll!

    All these tools think bb forgot to tune up his crystal ball.  Cannot be made up.

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    ^LOL

    While some of us are talking about medical and psych reports, risk/rewards, and the HIGH probability of failure

    where there is documented proof of doubt; some morons are still mentioning crystal balls.

    Does beebee have crystal balls?

    Cannot be made up!!!

     
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    Yeah, if this guy is good, it will be a good pick up, but if this guy is bad.....it will be a bad pick up. If he gets hurt? Well then BB should have damn well known. This is where I firmly stand, right here on the fence ready to lean which ever way best suits me.

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    Actually I don't think you need to do that on this one, unlike the Dowling pick - where everyone made excuses for the guy for two years - with Easley there will be no tolerance because we rolled the dice big time. If it doesn't work out there can be no excuse making. See with Dowling most of us knew he was an injury waiting to happen - the guy got hurt running his 40 during his pro day - but yet the homers made excuses for him. It won't be that way with Easley. And yet as fans we have the right to root for him because he's our first round pick and that's what we do. Sorry to break that to you truechump.

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    Lol !
    Wow, you knew Dowling would be hurt? That's amazing man. Could you let us know what will happen with Easley? I'd rather not wait to find out. Also if you have any insight on whether or not Lebron will cramp up in the clutch again we would all love to hear about it. You must have cleaned up at the Belmont yesterday, what are we talking about...hundreds?  Thousands? Which was it you motor boatin sob! 

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    Shh, True flunked history. He likes to ram his head into the same concrete wall saying, this time it will turn into delicious pudding because you can't predict it will stay concrete. Even if you tell him that it will still be concrete when he runs into again he'll make fun of you and then say it was hindsight after he did it again.

    btw Pro, numbers aren't his strong suit. He is actually really bad with math so things like probability are over his head.


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    Yeah, I'm bad with history and numbers, but how do these numbers look relative to the Patriots history?

    163 the amount of regular season wins since BB started building this 53 man roster in the year 2000. #1 in the league. 

    61 the amount of losses since he started acquiring the talent on this team. The fewest in the league.

    18 the number of playoff wins since this idiot BB started drafting, signing and trading for players. The most in the league in that time....meaning number 1.

    8 afc championship games played since 2000 when BB started building the most well run franchise in professional sports. Number 1 in the league in that tme.

    5 Super Bowl appearances since BB started royally screwing up this team by drafting guys like Ras I Dowling. Number 1 out of 32 teams in that time.

    3 Super Bowl championships since Billy started the Ultimate demise of this franchise that Parcells paved the way for. Also another number I'm so bad with....#1 in that time.

    So, forgive me if I don't whine like my chocolate milk got stolen in the cafeteria because not every player we sign is a super star. 

    Now carry on, tell us more how BB is screwing up, while the rest of us watch another 13 win season and most likely a trip to the super bowl....again, and if God forbid we lose we will wait for "fans" like you to tell us it's because BB didn't draft the guy you wanted.

     

     

     
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    Easley is a risk worth taking given he was the only 1st round grade left on  our board and our trading ability was limited or non existent. So, BB did what he needed to do and I am sure, like us, he is hoping for the best. A lesser GM would have settled for mediocrity and taken a more average player, favored by the media but also would pay the price 2-3 years down the line when the pick didn't pan out.


    Yes, it is big reward, big risk and all eyes will be focused on the success or failure of it but BB can be comforted by knowing he swung for the fences. No one knows the ultimate outcome but it is better to go all in than hedge given the paucity of alternatives.

     
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    Shh, True flunked history. He likes to ram his head into the same concrete wall saying, this time it will turn into delicious pudding because you can't predict it will stay concrete. Even if you tell him that it will still be concrete when he runs into again he'll make fun of you and then say it was hindsight after he did it again.

    btw Pro, numbers aren't his strong suit. He is actually really bad with math so things like probability are over his head.


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    Yeah, I'm bad with history and numbers, but how do these numbers look relative to the Patriots history?

    163 the amount of regular season wins since BB started building this 53 man roster in the year 2000. #1 in the league. 

    61 the amount of losses since he started acquiring the talent on this team. The fewest in the league.

    18 the number of playoff wins since this idiot BB started drafting, signing and trading for players. The most in the league in that time....meaning number 1.

    8 afc championship games played since 2000 when BB started building the most well run franchise in professional sports. Number 1 in the league in that tme.

    5 Super Bowl appearances since BB started royally screwing up this team by drafting guys like Ras I Dowling. Number 1 out of 32 teams in that time.

    3 Super Bowl championships since Billy started the Ultimate demise of this franchise that Parcells paved the way for. Also another number I'm so bad with....#1 in that time.

    So, forgive me if I don't whine like my chocolate milk got stolen in the cafeteria because not every player we sign is a super star. 

    Now carry on, tell us more how BB is screwing up, while the rest of us watch another 13 win season and most likely a trip to the super bowl....again, and if God forbid we lose we will wait for "fans" like you to tell us it's because BB didn't draft the guy you wanted.

     

     

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    The team Won those SB's when they were balanced.

    Since bb lost the talent on those teams,( who mostly were adopted other than the obvious) there has been a slow and steady decline in balance, bottoming out in 2011 with the 1st ranked O and 31st ranked D.

    Now, how does a top flight D, with the greatest gm/coach of all times, go from first to worst?

    There is no other way to look at it, other than deficient team building.  A lot of those issues are a result of picking high risk players, that ended up HURTING the cause, not helping it.

    Too many times I heard what a stud Ras I would have been IF he weren't always injured, or Amandola can really stretch that field when it turned out all that he was stretching was his groin.  Or if Talib or Gronk payed in the SB or if Hernandez wasn't in prison.  All high risk guys that failed.

    Turns out that while those super stars were in the tub, the rest of the team wasn't good enough.  OUCH

    Turns out those missing pieces (the injury prone and psycho ones) did NOTHING to help when it mattered most.

    Ya, the team sustained success over the years and we are happy for that but when push came to shove, that missing talent, those high risk guys, weren't there and it hurt.  They found away to win without them except when it mattered most.

    Ras I was good for 2 wins, Amandola too.  Gronks good for 6-8 a year.  They say Brady is good for 5 wins a year on his own, because he is that good and gives them an advantage in every game.(unless he is on the bench for 2/3rds of the game, which nullifies that advantage) The AFC east almost guarantees 4-5 wins a year.  All those things add up to wins and division titles.

    All those risks that didn't pan out, amounted to less.

     
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    Then again don't even get me started about Hernandez. Everybody knew about this guys affinity for shooting people. It was common knowledge. "Red flags" everywhere. BB is so bad at his job.

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    Everyone knew there were risks.  Again, there are probabilities between 0 and 1.  What we are talking about here is managing risk. No one knows if the guy who's had three car accidents in the last year is going to have another one, but that doesn't mean you want to be the one to sell him auto insurance. 

     

     

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    What if you hire him and he becomes 1 of the best drivers you've ever employed for 3 years....which happens to be the average career for that given field. Did he help your business during that time?

    Perhaps if Tommy doesn't throw the 40 yard prayer interception to a DE or if our defense doesn't melt down in the final 3 minutes again then Hernandez and his 14 targets in the super bowl with a td is the Super Bowl MVP.

    You see there is risk verse reward everywhere,  the problem I have is with the "fans" who consistently complain about any move that doesn't end up working out. I think you guys need to step outside of your box and recognize the brilliance displayed over the last 13 years.  

    For every Dowling there is a Mankins, every Hernandez there is a Edelman or a Gronk. Not every move works out and to condemn any move that fails for a team that wins more then any other is just plain arrogant in my opinion.  

    But I digress, carry on good sir, show me the error of my ways.

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    What if a bunch of other companies in your industry say he's too dangerous to hire, you hire him anyway, then promote him with a big contracr' then he kills three people and you lose millions of dollars because of it? How's that for business? 

     
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    ^loll!

    All these tools think bb forgot to tune up his crystal ball.  Cannot be made up.

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    ^LOL

    While some of us are talking about medical and psych reports, risk/rewards, and the HIGH probability of failure

    where there is documented proof of doubt; some morons are still mentioning crystal balls.

    Does beebee have crystal balls?

    Cannot be made up!!!

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    Yeah, if this guy is good, it will be a good pick up, but if this guy is bad.....it will be a bad pick up. If he gets hurt? Well then BB should have damn well known. This is where I firmly stand, right here on the fence ready to lean which ever way best suits me.

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    This reminds me of the captain obvious commercials on TV... if he is good, he will be a good pick... if he is not good, he will be a bad pickup... captain obvious lol.

     
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    Re: Dominique Easley could redefine New England’s defensive fronts

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    Shh, True flunked history. He likes to ram his head into the same concrete wall saying, this time it will turn into delicious pudding because you can't predict it will stay concrete. Even if you tell him that it will still be concrete when he runs into again he'll make fun of you and then say it was hindsight after he did it again.

    btw Pro, numbers aren't his strong suit. He is actually really bad with math so things like probability are over his head.


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    Yeah, I'm bad with history and numbers, but how do these numbers look relative to the Patriots history?

    163 the amount of regular season wins since BB started building this 53 man roster in the year 2000. #1 in the league. 

    61 the amount of losses since he started acquiring the talent on this team. The fewest in the league.

    18 the number of playoff wins since this idiot BB started drafting, signing and trading for players. The most in the league in that time....meaning number 1.

    8 afc championship games played since 2000 when BB started building the most well run franchise in professional sports. Number 1 in the league in that tme.

    5 Super Bowl appearances since BB started royally screwing up this team by drafting guys like Ras I Dowling. Number 1 out of 32 teams in that time.

    3 Super Bowl championships since Billy started the Ultimate demise of this franchise that Parcells paved the way for. Also another number I'm so bad with....#1 in that time.

    So, forgive me if I don't whine like my chocolate milk got stolen in the cafeteria because not every player we sign is a super star. 

    Now carry on, tell us more how BB is screwing up, while the rest of us watch another 13 win season and most likely a trip to the super bowl....again, and if God forbid we lose we will wait for "fans" like you to tell us it's because BB didn't draft the guy you wanted.

     

     

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    While you're discussing numbers please tell us for the umpteenth million time how Bill Belichick screwed up the run-pass ratio in the playoffs again. When it comes to whiners, Champ, you're right up thrre with a grand cru Bordeaux.

     

     
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    Re: Dominique Easley could redefine New England’s defensive fronts

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    Shh, True flunked history. He likes to ram his head into the same concrete wall saying, this time it will turn into delicious pudding because you can't predict it will stay concrete. Even if you tell him that it will still be concrete when he runs into again he'll make fun of you and then say it was hindsight after he did it again.

    btw Pro, numbers aren't his strong suit. He is actually really bad with math so things like probability are over his head.


    I swear by lil 10 pound bearded baby Jesus

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    Yeah, I'm bad with history and numbers, but how do these numbers look relative to the Patriots history?

    163 the amount of regular season wins since BB started building this 53 man roster in the year 2000. #1 in the league. 

    61 the amount of losses since he started acquiring the talent on this team. The fewest in the league.

    18 the number of playoff wins since this idiot BB started drafting, signing and trading for players. The most in the league in that time....meaning number 1.

    8 afc championship games played since 2000 when BB started building the most well run franchise in professional sports. Number 1 in the league in that tme.

    5 Super Bowl appearances since BB started royally screwing up this team by drafting guys like Ras I Dowling. Number 1 out of 32 teams in that time.

    3 Super Bowl championships since Billy started the Ultimate demise of this franchise that Parcells paved the way for. Also another number I'm so bad with....#1 in that time.

    So, forgive me if I don't whine like my chocolate milk got stolen in the cafeteria because not every player we sign is a super star. 

    Now carry on, tell us more how BB is screwing up, while the rest of us watch another 13 win season and most likely a trip to the super bowl....again, and if God forbid we lose we will wait for "fans" like you to tell us it's because BB didn't draft the guy you wanted.

     

     

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    I'll give you some numbers true....1....that's how many winning seasons Bill Belichick had as a head coach before Brady became the starting quarterback. How did those drafts go in Cleveland? Or how about free agency? It's too bad he didn't have Brady back then, he'd probably still be in Cleveland and then moron fans could write on message boards about how great of a "team builder" he was for Cleveland. But sadly Bill didn't have Tom back then and had only one winning season in five years, then he came here and promptly proceeded to go 5-11 before Brady saved his job and made him a legendary "team builder". Lol.

    Bill is the greatest coach in football, but without Brady we would never have to hear words like  "team builder", because it just isn't true. I still remember the year Belichick threw the phone through the wall because the jets drafted Kyle Brady ahead of Cleveland...imagine that? The Browns were enamored with draft bust Kyle Brady...who would of thunk it?

     
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