Donald Jones - any interest? and a Boldin/Welker question.

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    Donald Jones - any interest? and a Boldin/Welker question.

    Curious on peoples impressions of Dolnald Jones - cut rather than RFA tebdered by the Bills. Seems to have some size and speed, and not bad production with a questionable QB. Would be a cheap pick-up presumably on a look see basis. Has some medical issue and has injury history, but if he passed a physical?

    Also - question on Boldin - if he were cut, it would be because he has a 6.5M/yr contract - so ... Welker at say 8M or Boldin at 6M - who do you want?

     
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    In response to mia76's comment:

    Also - question on Boldin - if he were cut, it would be because he has a 6.5M/yr contract - so ... Welker at say 8M or Boldin at 6M - who do you want?



    Boldin and Welker have two totally different positions in this offense.  So you gotta ask, would Llyod and Boldin along with the TE's be the answer?  I don't think so.  Need someone who can stretch the field, instead of two mid field receivers (Boldin and Lloyd).  You already have that in Lloyd, and the TE's.  If Boldin can play the middle and stretch the field as a deep threat option then maybe you need to get rid of Lloyd instead of Welker and get Boldin.  The loss of Welker would stop all their short to mid field options. 

    You need to remember, this team plays a manageable offense system, meaning they like the short stuff.  They aim for a manageable 3rd and short.  I don't like a manageable system because so much rides on that 3rd down conversion but that's how they have decided to run their offense.  And with that type of offense then Welker plays a huge, huge role in that system.

     
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    Re: Donald Jones - any interest? and a Boldin/Welker question.

    Remember that Jones is on IR with "some sort of Medical Problem" whatever that means. The Bill were going to sign him but backed off due to his illness.

    Jones says he has "had" the illness and has played with it and plans on playing with it in 2013.

    Buyer beware.

     
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    Boldin isn't going anywhere. They'll restructure deals to make sure he stays.

     
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    Re: Donald Jones - any interest? and a Boldin/Welker question.

    In response to TFB12's comment:

    In response to mia76's comment:

     

    Also - question on Boldin - if he were cut, it would be because he has a 6.5M/yr contract - so ... Welker at say 8M or Boldin at 6M - who do you want?

     



    Boldin and Welker have two totally different positions in this offense.  So you gotta ask, would Llyod and Boldin along with the TE's be the answer?  I don't think so.  Need someone who can stretch the field, instead of two mid field receivers (Boldin and Lloyd).  You already have that in Lloyd, and the TE's.  If Boldin can play the middle and stretch the field as a deep threat option then maybe you need to get rid of Lloyd instead of Welker and get Boldin.  The loss of Welker would stop all their short to mid field options. 

     

    You need to remember, this team plays a manageable offense system, meaning they like the short stuff.  They aim for a manageable 3rd and short.  I don't like a manageable system because so much rides on that 3rd down conversion but that's how they have decided to run their offense.  And with that type of offense then Welker plays a huge, huge role in that system.



    I was not think Boldin replaces Welker in the offensive set, more re salary numbers. Boldin is an impressive physical receiver that people seem to want, but certainly not the down field threat. If they made this swap of salaries at WR then presumably they would be replacing the welker routes with edleman or hernandez.

    On the other poster comments re Jones - obviously the medicals need to pass muster, but do you bring him in for a look see?

     
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    Re: Donald Jones - any interest? and a Boldin/Welker question.

    Boldin wouldn't replace Welker, he would replace Lloyd out on the island and Lloyd would start doing what he does best which is the intermediate routes, basically picking up Welker's missing catches.

    Edelmen would also handle a large part of Welker's receptions.  I don't necessarily see it happening but we'd be better off if it did.  

    Also a healthy Ballard allows Gronk more freedom to go downfield and allows Huey to play fullback more exclusively.  Hernandez would be the x factor playing every where.

    And that's a no vote on Jones, not overly fast or big, but we could obviously invite him to camp and he might be a pleasant surprise.

     
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    Re: Donald Jones - any interest? and a Boldin/Welker question.

    In response to wozzy's comment:

    Boldin wouldn't replace Welker, he would replace Lloyd out on the island and Lloyd would start doing what he does best which is the intermediate routes, basically picking up Welker's missing catches.

    Edelmen would also handle a large part of Welker's receptions.  I don't necessarily see it happening but we'd be better off if it did.  

    Also a healthy Ballard allows Gronk more freedom to go downfield and allows Huey to play fullback more exclusively.  Hernandez would be the x factor playing every where.



    wow, i like your thinking on this. nice post.

     
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    Re: Donald Jones - any interest? and a Boldin/Welker question.

    Anquan Boldin told NBC's Erik Kuselias that he intends to retire if the Ravens release him this offseason.

    "They will be his last team," passes along Kuselias. The Baltimore Sun reported late this week that the cap-strapped Ravens would prefer to sign Boldin to a contract extension, reducing his salary cap number. Currently, Boldin is owed a non-guaranteed salary of $6 million. Set to commit upwards of $20 million to Joe Flacco, GM Ozzie Newsome will have to get creative to keep Boldin.
     
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    Re: Donald Jones - any interest? and a Boldin/Welker question.

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    Anquan Boldin told NBC's Erik Kuselias that he intends to retire if the Ravens release him this offseason.

    "They will be his last team," passes along Kuselias. The Baltimore Sun reported late this week that the cap-strapped Ravens would prefer to sign Boldin to a contract extension, reducing his salary cap number. Currently, Boldin is owed a non-guaranteed salary of $6 million. Set to commit upwards of $20 million to Joe Flacco, GM Ozzie Newsome will have to get creative to keep Boldin.

     



    Maybe he will retire, but guys say stuff right after the season ends that isn't necessarily how they feel in three months when the bumps and bruises have healed and someone is offering a multi-million dollar contract.  Case in point, Brett Favre.

     

     
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    Re: Donald Jones - any interest? and a Boldin/Welker question.

    In response to Muzwell's comment:

    In response to dapats1281's comment:

     

    Anquan Boldin told NBC's Erik Kuselias that he intends to retire if the Ravens release him this offseason.

    "They will be his last team," passes along Kuselias. The Baltimore Sun reported late this week that the cap-strapped Ravens would prefer to sign Boldin to a contract extension, reducing his salary cap number. Currently, Boldin is owed a non-guaranteed salary of $6 million. Set to commit upwards of $20 million to Joe Flacco, GM Ozzie Newsome will have to get creative to keep Boldin.

     



    Maybe he will retire, but guys say stuff right after the season ends that isn't necessarily how they feel in three months when the bumps and bruises have healed and someone is offering a multi-million dollar contract.  Case in point, Brett Favre.

     



    true, but there arent too many brett favres out there haha

     
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