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    Bishop is a college in Canada, so i mean its CFL country, its decent but not like a big 12 school. And i know highlights are just the highlights but on the two Youtube video's i found he simply looks dominante making a lot of long runs
     
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    J Lee sounds like an intriguing talent. Can he catch screen passes & block? The Pats will need an eventual replacement for K Faulk.

     
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    It looks as though he can catch, in the highlight reel he had a nice catch in double coverage. Bishop runs the spread so I dont think he was called on to block all that much, but blocking is another thing that could be worked on.
    He rushed for 4,296 yards in college, He is the son of a CFL RB, he also had a vertical jump of 44 inches, he is considered on of the top prospects in the CFL draft.
     
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    JoshuaTree,

    I've been a fan of K Faulk since his LSU days & he really worked at it to become a good blocker. He's always had good hands & speed & an ability to make tacklers miss. I think the Pats have a good group of RB's but I'm not sure if they have a RB with his versatility that they can develop for the future. J Lee sounds like he could be an every down type of back although it would be an adjustment from playing at Bishop to the NFL.

     
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    David there would most deffinetly be a learning curve, as with all rookies, his might be a little larger. He just has some things that can't be taught, and if has the work ethic than he could be a very complete back
     
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    I thought Barwin moving up to around #23 was crazy. I guess I'm out of line again.
    http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/
    Scroll down to Cincinnati's Barwin in Demand.
     
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    Does anyone think that the #23 or 34 pick become valuable if Freeman is on the board ? Like Cleveland and Quinn a player could fall to #23 or #34 that alot of teams would covet making either of those picks valuable as trade commodities. Much like Hester and the SD pick.
    For the record, if Spikes has a good senior campaign the Pats will not have a shot at him in the 2010 draft. He'll be top 10 material (heck he is already). Same goes for Taylor Mays.

     
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    I just hope we nail our first four picks, if we use them all. Even #59 should net a starter, which is why I wouldn't trade it to move up for Maualuga.

    There are going to be some seriously pressing needs next season, and we very well might be drafting for need at positions which force us to reach (LT, DE?)

    We have relatively minor needs this year, which is very fortunate. OLB is the only dire need at the moment, while most other teams have numerous dire needs.

    Next year, Mankins and Wilfork will no longer be good values. They will be fair value at best, assuming good health. I don't think there is an acceptable alternative to Wilfork, but I think a decent and much better value can be found for Mankins in this year's draft.

    If the OLB we draft this year, combined with Crable and others, prove not to be up to the task, I think a fraction of the money that would have gone to Mankins next year could be spent on an exceptional OLB free agent next year.

    Linebackers and Safeties, arguably our two greatest needs this year, are also the lowest paid positional players when free agency rolls around.

    I hope as a general strategy BB uses our picks to draft positions that are more expensive to fill in free agency, even if there is not an urgent need at the position right now.

    Mankins replacement at Guard, Cornerback, Left Tackle, a possible Seymour replacement, and even Brace at #34 to replace Wilfork should be strongly considered.

    Brace might not be nearly as good as Wilfork, but I'd be willing to bet he would be a better value than what Wilfork will command in free agency. Given that linebackers are significantly cheaper than nose tackles, and given the traditional dominant role linebackers play in a 3-4 formation, I think it wouldn't be a bad idea to replace Wilfork with Brace, and use that Wilfork money to address a couple different needs, including a top MLB free agent if needed.

    We have 3 free agents next year who all play some of the most expensive positions in the game (Wilfork, Seymour, and Mankins). I would rather draft value at their positions where possible, and sign free agents at other, cheaper positions that will help compensate for their loss at better value.
     
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    Haha, this sounds like last season.

    At the end of last year's draft I was looking at RM, T. Jackson, Mays and Oher. And wondering if any would be available.

    Now it looks like I am still waiting for Mays, and hoping for Spikes now too.

    And yes, the #23 might be valuable for Freeman or Sanchez if he sits around. But you need to track who is interested to really get it out there. I jsut don't see it. Almost every team between #23 and #34 have their Qb spot set. So Freeman could fall a while.

    So I don't see much incentive to jump up top for him. You really would need TWO teams interested in him to make it happen. The team at #24-5 would need to be threats to take him (doubtful) and another team farther down would need to want to jump them.

    So I see little action there. I think the best bet would be one really good OT or WR slipping, which (given the needs beneath NE) they could move down a few spots and net a pick.
     
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    Faucet, what is funnier that? Hmm, check NE's 4-3 sub.


    Green, Warren, Seymour, Peppers

    Thomas, Mayo, Crable?

    Hobbs Springs Bodden

    Meriweather

    That would really be one of the best 4-3 defenses in all of football. Seymour and Peppers next to each other would be a better right side than any Ican ever remember. Bar none. Could you imagine feilding that "D" with Wilfork and Maualuga on the fr!gg!n bench???????????

    Talk about reserves. LOL.

    And that would just be a subset.

    There are so many ifs about Peppers, but if he can stand, and iof they can afford him.. . . WOW.

    Tremendous flexibility.
     
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    Who are our Cornerbacks next year?
     
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    I can't say. But just judging about what Ihave seen from both players, I think Crable would be a better fit at 4-3 OLB. He really excelled in that role, whereas Sintim struggled and is a much better straight line type of player, which is why I think he could be a MIKE here as well if NE loses the Maualuga sweepstakes.

    Guyton is awful in coverage. I would be more enticed by just using RM or Crable in that scenario.

    As far as the "push" goes, it really is a dream of a dream at this point. And I am trying not to read into BB's non-denial of interest.

    I would be happy with whatever they did, so long as it didn;t involve sacrifice.
     
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    aro,

    I would think CB will be decided by competition. But in all likelihood, you are looking at a Bodden, Hobbs, Springs front three. With Wheatley and Wilhite in reserve for sure, and a few other guys who may or may not make the team. And maybe any other palyers NE picks up.

    I like that it is deep, I don't like that two players aren't signed after next season.
     
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    Z, I meant the year after this coming year. I think we're fine for this year, but I think we should use a mid-late 2nd rounder on a CB, at the least. It's an expensive position to fill in FA for the most part, though FA seems to have worked out well this year.

    Byrd, Francies, or Moore at 59, I'd hope.

    There will be several other needs next draft.
     
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    I think Wheatley is a very good player, but his health can't be counted on, so if it looks like a similar caliber player may be available at 58 (and it does) who is also less injury prone, it would obviously be something to look at.

    It's definitely a tricky situation with the number of CBs we have now, even if Springs could be moved to safety.

    If one of our picks was traded for a pick next year, and a CB wasn't drafted, I would also be happy with that.

    I think running back is a position you can turn to in the draft at the last minute without using a first or second rounder, but it's riskier trying that with CBs.

    Maybe there's a good hybrid CB/Safety that they can draft, and put him at CB next year if need be.

    Speaking of hybrids, Unger might make sense at #34, since he can play anywhere on the O Line and help soften the blow if/when Mankins leaves after next year.

    I also get the feeling that Laurenaitis might fit better with a Peppers infused front 7 than Maualuga, given his better range and coverage abilities. He and Mayo could cover a lot of ground together, and help make up for Peppers' weakness in coverage.

    Lot's to consider, that's for sure.
     
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    Wonderlic scores:
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-22-pompei-scout-mar22,0,7151782.story

    Percy Harvin scored a 12. Ouch. Maualuga only scored a 15.
     
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    Peppers aint happenin. FAce it.

    At 23 -- Percy Harvin or Malcolm Jenkins or the best LB available

    at 34 -- Hakeem Nicks or CB or LB

    at 47 -- Ron Brace or G/C Antoine Caldwell or William Moore

    at 58 -- best remaining player at position of need -- tackle, LB, or safety/CB
     
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    Arod, thanks for that link.

    Scratch Harvin from the list. We don't need another Chad Jackson, nothing above the neck.

    As for Maulauga....thats not good news. Think back to our linebackers....Bruschi, Vrable, Colvin, Seau....they are all very smart guys.

    Same goes for Mayo....very intelligent player.

    I'm starting to sour on Maulauga.....unfortunately.
     
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    I'm starting to think Michael Johnson, GT.

    I saw a lengthy interview on youtube. He seems like a good guy with a solid background and appears to have the smarts BB looks for.

    Not to mention his physical freak-ness.
     
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    Peppers is perhaps more likely than Jenkins.
     
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    Shame that Maualuga appears to be dumb as a brick. Intelligence is vital for a defender in the Pats 3-4 system, especially playing the mike linebacker.

    Does anyone know Barwin's wonderlic score?
     
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    Actually I think the wonderlic results aren't officially released, so like the scores described in the above link, whatever we hear about Barwin's score will be second hand. A quick google search revealed nothing for me.
     
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    Pyegian...based on his wonderlic score, it probably took Maualuga four years of college just to learn to spell his last name properly. He couldn't find Foxboro with GPS...we need an ILB with some smarts...let's keep looking...
     
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    I can never find Wonderlic scores, although the results I saw above aren't suprising.

    OK, Eben Britton scoring more than most QB's was a little surprising.

    Maybe he is the pick? LOL. He is light and athletic for a Tackle which fits the mold. Team captain, leader, etc. Really smart.

    I wish he was a guy to get at #34. But I think he is solid low first round. There is a gauntlet of teams requiring an OT between #23 and #34.
     
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    i am suprised that so many people are going nuts over RM's wonderlic.

    If you were in love with him before and DID NOT expect this, then you really didn't watch him play enough to consider him the NE pick.

    He wasn't the team surgeon like Mayo. And anyone who is capable of this stuff (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdDGYsYXHKc) probably isn't a Rhodes Scholar either.
     
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