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    Ohyes,

    I'd be very happy with your draft.  But, I doubt White will be there at 58 and I don't like the idea of taking him higher than that.  I know I've been talking up Pat White but at 47 he becomes too expensive and he won't be there at 58.

    If we're going with Butler I don't see the need for Sean Smith even as a safety.  This just isn't a good year for safeties.  If we had to go safety I'd wait until later on.  I like S. Smith at corner.  I think he's fast enough, fluid enough and very tall.  With the off season pick ups of Springs and Bodden I think adding one CB is enough.  I'd not be surprised if we don't take a CB at all but I'd would like to keep S. Smith away from the Jets, Dolphins or Bills. 

    When I look at players most likely to be lost after 2009 I think they would be Seymour, Green and Neal.  I'm still holding out hope we re-sign Wilfork and Mankins.  Kaczur could stand upgrading even if we keep him.  I'm pretty high on Cadogan at 89.  He's big, fast and very smart.  The one thing we don't know is how does BB feel Guyton and Crable are developing.  If he's happy that both will improve, our weakness at LB might not be as bad as we all think.  I haven't heard any talk of bringing in Maualuga or Laurinaitis so I've got to think he's happy with the Bruschi/Guyton tandem but could look to add a ILB in the later rounds.

    23  Ziggy Hood
    34  Robert Ayers
    47  Brian Robiski (package 6&7 to move up)
    58  Rashad Jennings
    89  Gerald Cadogan
    97  David Bruton
    124 Brandon Hughes

    Seymour, Green, Neal, Galloway, and Morris could all be replaced by these guys heading into 2010.  The savings would be in the range of $25MM which we can use to go out and acquire some stud F/A.
     
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    I'll put in a plug for Everette Pedescleaux at #98.  He's a small school project, but at least he's a huge project.  Road graders on either side of the line are hard to find, but they're usually better than no road grader at all.  He's listed as a 7th rounder in some places, but several teams are intrigued by him.

    Another project would be Larry Johnson, DE/LB at Georgia Tech.  He deadlifts 660 lbs.  Not too bad in coverage.
     
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    Faucet

    not that because we like them they get picked
    but I could go with:

    #23 Butler                       / because of reasons I listed earlier
    #34 English                     / Same
    #47 Robiski / best safety  / I don't see Galloway as long term & J. Sanders is 
                                         a warm body at best
    #58 Jennings /TE             /back by commity is ok if it's not the over thrity gang
                                         alot of TE's and our's don't produce 
    who could really say who's there in the 3rd. I know we need to HIT at least through 3 rounds.
    I'll stick on McKillop. He's my sleeper. It was TE Cook but he blew up at the combine. Coffee RB from AL is another. 
    I agree with you about both lines though. I think this could be the draft to get good depth from maybe find two starters. Not saying Ventrone/ Richardson never make anything but like keeping Izzo around for years even though he could not back up at LB. I'll get pounded for that. We don't want to keep calling Seau and Law back in. We have been saving and paying forward for a deep draft or a certain guy. I think this maybe the year. Maybe not ALL-IN but close.
     
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    Faucet not that because we like them they get picked but I could go with: #23 Butler                       / because of reasons I listed earlier #34 English                     / Same #47 Robiski / best safety  / I don't see Galloway as long term & J. Sanders is                                       a warm body at best #58 Jennings /TE             /back by commity is ok if it's not the over thrity gang                                      alot of TE's and our's don't produce  who could really say who's there in the 3rd. I know we need to HIT at least through 3 rounds. I'll stick on McKillop. He's my sleeper. It was TE Cook but he blew up at the combine. Coffee RB from AL is another.  I agree with you about both lines though. I think this could be the draft to get good depth from maybe find two starters. Not saying Ventrone/ Richardson never make anything but like keeping Izzo around for years even though he could not back up at LB. I'll get pounded for that.  We don't want to keep calling Seau and Law back in. We have been saving and paying forward for a deep draft or a certain guy. I think this maybe the year. Maybe not ALL-IN but close.
    Posted by ohyes

    I love Butler and Robiski.  English I'm okay with but not super stoked about because he isn't very fast, 4.82.  Are you talking about Jennings the RB out of Liberty?  I think he would be a tremendous value pick. 
     
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    Paul Kruger from Utah, 6'4" 260 DE/OLB.  Looked dominant against Alabama in the Sugar Bowl, plays well in space and can rush passer.  Haven't heard his name mentioned much, seems like a Pats type guy. 


     
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    I agree that the DL is a major concern going forward. Actually, both lines lose starters and depth next year, and if we don't shore up our lines, we'll see the rest of our team take a step back. Hood, Gilbert, Jackson, Hill, Pedescleaux, etc, could provide good value on D, and for offense I'm a big fan of Meredith, Unger, Canfield, Cadogen, Lang, and other simliar guys. Tough, intelligent, competent players with versatility and upside.

    My next thought is that corners are getting ridiculous contracts, so I'd like to see either an upper echelon CB in the first three rounds, or two or three UFAs in camp. I know we've met with a few small-school guys, like Derek Cox for example. who show a lot of promise. I'm still holding out for Jenkins, but I just don't think he'll fall to 23 . . . I can dream, at any rate.

    I think if OLB were a priority, we wouldn't have let Vrabel go for such a pittance. Maybe I'm wrong, but something tells me that BB feels the replacement is already on the roster. My money is on Crable. Still, why not take a guy if represents good value?

    I feel the same way about WRs. We're pretty well stocked, but only for the next few years.  This is a great WR draft, so why not grab a few developmental players and give them a couple years to grow and adjust to the pro game?

    So to recap: OL, DL, CB, OLB, WR, Let's go for quality over quantity this year. We can address LB, S, TE, and RB next year.
     
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    I think safety is a far bigger need than CB at the moment.  Besides that the needs are spot on.  However, I may be enticed by taking Darius Butler, this draft may be nice.

    #23 Darius Butler-CB
    #34 Connor Barwin-OLB
    #47 Jarron Glibert-DE
    #58 Patrick Chung-SS
    #89 Gerald Cadogen-OT
    #97 Rames Barden-WR
    #124 Terrance Taylor-DT

    Rd 5C Andy Kemp-OG
    Rd 6 Trade
    Rd 6C Brenard Scott-RB
    Rd 7 Trade  
     
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    The only problem I see with the Butler, Barwin, Gilbert, and English's of this draft is that they are from small schools and faced sub-standard competition.

    BB likes his top draft choices from big schools and big conferences.
     
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    I love Butler and Robiski.  English I'm okay with but not super stoked about because he isn't very fast, 4.82.  Are you talking about Jennings the RB out of Liberty?  I think he would be a tremendous value pick. 
    Posted by Faucetman


    Faucetman
     I know you ant bringing up a 40 time for a OLB. Larry's floor is: He can set the edge,crash down the line inside to stop the run ( which by the way is what I noticed first ) get to the QB/ run the arc well,play with his hand in the dirt/ stand up. He's even endorced by BIG Willie Mc!!   LINK  http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80fad3a9

    As for the crashing down inside. I was refering to the Sr Bowl. I admit that is the first time I saw him. As for small schools some of the biggest players come from them and College/Bowl games I think the Sr Bowl removes the Rah Rah from the college game. Also where I saw McKillop first. There not Pat White or USC LB's so they don't get the same level of Face time. They both played their butt off as did Robert Ayers and David Veikune.


    Yes Jennings RB from Liberty. He was in the Sr Bowl also and ran very tough. I had forgot him till you brought him back up. I've TiVo'ed the Game just to see whoever we take. So with my luck we'll take underclassman :)
     
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    Faucetman  I know you ant bringing up a 40 time for a OLB. Larry's floor is: He can set the edge,crash down the line inside to stop the run ( which by the way is what I noticed first ) get to the QB/ run the arc well,play with his hand in the dirt/ stand up. He's even endorced by BIG Willie Mc!!   LINK  http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80fad3a9 As for the crashing down inside. I was refering to the Sr Bowl. I admit that is the first time I saw him. As for small schools some of the biggest players come from them and College/Bowl games I think the Sr Bowl removes the Rah Rah from the college game. Also where I saw McKillop first. There not Pat White or USC LB's so they don't get the same level of Face time. They both played their butt off as did Robert Ayers and David Veikune. Yes Jennings RB from Liberty. He was in the Sr Bowl also and ran very tough. I had forgot him till you brought him back up. I've TiVo'ed the Game just to see whoever we take. So with my luck we'll take underclassman :)
    Posted by ohyes


    BB personally called out English as one of those tweeners that he seemed to like.  If we went with English there would be no need for Barwin and English is much more experienced and ready to step in and contribute.

    I think Rashard Jennings is a poor man's Beanie Wells.  Beanie's a bit bigger, a bit faster and played for a major school.  However, Beanie has been prone to injury and his running style makes that concern likely to continue.  Jennings has very good hands, can break a tackle with strength.  My only concern is his smarts.  He struggled academically which could also be a reason why he transferred from Pittsburgh to Liberty besides the selfless reason to be closer to his father who is ill.

    I have Jennings at #76 right now which is good value and low risk.  If we could trade down a little with 58 into the 3rd round I'd love him around 70.  I know it looks like we are set at RB for this year but are we really?

    Morris missed 3 games in 2008, 10 games in 2007
    Maroney missed 13 games in 2008, 3 games in 2007
    Taylor missed 3 games in 2008 but was a pro bowler in 2007
    Faulk is the most consistent back but turns 33
    Green-Ellis will have a hard time making the team even though he showed flashes last year.
     
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    I think safety is a far bigger need than CB at the moment.  Besides that the needs are spot on.  However, I may be enticed by taking Darius Butler, this draft may be nice. #23 Darius Butler-CB #34 Connor Barwin-OLB #47 Jarron Glibert-DE #58 Patrick Chung-SS #89 Gerald Cadogen-OT #97 Rames Barden-WR #124 Terrance Taylor-DT Rd 5C Andy Kemp-OG Rd 6 Trade Rd 6C Brenard Scott-RB Rd 7 Trade  
    Posted by titletownfan


    I love your picks and reasoning.  One thing to remember is Tank Williams is coming back from injury.  He's a big in-the-box safety who has started most of his career.  I also see Springs playing more safety now that he's older (and likely slower).  If we were to draft Butler as you suggest (not a bad idea) I don't think we need to draft a safety too.  We'll likely carry 9-10 DBs.

    CB:  Bodden, Hobbs, Wheatley, Whilhite, BUTLER cut: Mike Richardson
    S:    Brandon Merriweather, James Sanders, Shawn Springs, Tank Williams cut: Ventrone, Spann

    If we draft a Safety too who do we cut if we are carrying 9 DBs?
     
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    I would love to take one stud DL and one stud OL with 2 of those 4 top picks.  We have to look past 2009 and see what our needs are in 2010.  IMO we will lose Green and big Sey after the season on the DL and Neal and possibly Kaczur on the OL.  I would love to draft their replacements now so they have a year to learn our system and improve before they are called on to start.  The only player in range that "could" replace Seymour is Ziggy Hood.  However, if we drafted a stud pass rushing DE like Ayers, Gilbert or Sidbury I could see cutting Green now and freeing up his cap.  I could also see Green becoming part of a big trade to the Panthers for Peppers.  The Panthers need DE help and OL help.  We could trade Green, Kaczur possibly Neal and a pick like 34 or 47 and save $5.8MM in cap to sign Peppers.  Let's assume it's pick 34 which has been discussed.  Our draft could look like this.

    #23  Hood (replaces Seymour after 2009)
    #34  Peppers from Carolina (-Green, Neal and Kaczur) OLB and DE need met
    #47  Eric Wood (replaces Neal) fast, big pulling Guard Day 1 starter
    #58  Andre Brown RB from N. Carolina State.  6-0, 224 with 4.37 speed. Cut Green-Ellis
    #89  Gerald Cadogan 6-5, 309, 4.99.  Day 1 Starter at RT replacing Kaczur
    #97  Jasper Brinkley 6-2, 252, 4.67 adds depth at ILB

    I think this would be one heck of a draft especially with Peppers coming to NE. 
     
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    Faucet
    @23 I think English has the best atleast he can do this list.
    I think your spot on with the RB's in check for this draft. you can check out the Maroney thread for my thoughts on him. Alot of good Rb's to be had. As much as I loved Moreno at GA I don't know if it will translate. I look around the league and see all different kinds that have success. I think a RB has to fit a system maybe as much as a linebacker. No way did I think Slaton at Houston would work and thought Mike Hart at Indy was a sure thing.

    On the Safety deal. I think Sanders is a warm body. Where's the Clark hit on Welker from Sanders dirty or not? Where's the Ed Reed back half ball hawking? Where's the BOO sanders ( I hate Boo He's the 4th LB in a 4-3 system) in the box run stuffing? and last but not least Where the Hell is he when Hobbs is getting beat Deep? Not that I blame Hobbs everytime because I don't. You see other teams safety's do it.You know that coming from out of the screen shot to blow someone the Hell up or take a pick the other way./ Springs and Tank = big health ? we don't need good IR guys. It seems Tank will be a sub-package guy.
     
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    If the Patriots don't trade out/package their 1st round pick, I envision them drafting one of the following with their 23rd pick: Darius Bultler (CB), Evander"Ziggy"Hood (DE), Brandon Pettigrew (TE) or a RB (perhaps Brown or Moreno) .  By the time the Patriots select in the 1st round, I don't anticipate any first round grade DE/OLB's to be available.  Larry English and Connor Barwin, although intriguing prospects, appear to project better in the second round (at the 23rd spot I think both would be a reach).  The rest of the draft is simply too difficult to predict.  Undoubtedly, the organization will be making several moves on draft day as they will not be selecting 11 players, and thus using all of their allotted draft choices this year. 


     
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    My first  "m"
     
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    what is "m"?
     
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    If the Patriots don't trade out/package their 1st round pick, I envision them drafting one of the following with their 23rd pick: Darius Bultler (CB), Evander"Ziggy"Hood (DE), Brandon Pettigrew (TE) or a RB (perhaps Brown or Moreno) .  By the time the Patriots select in the 1st round, I don't anticipate any first round grade DE/OLB's to be available.  Larry English and Connor Barwin, although intriguing prospects, appear to project better in the second round (at the 23rd spot I think both would be a reach).  The rest of the draft is simply too difficult to predict.  Undoubtedly, the organization will be making several moves on draft day as they will not be selecting 11 players, and thus using all of their allotted draft choices this year. 
    Posted by Going-the-Distance


    I agree with the comment that English and Barwin would both be reaches at #23.  #34 is about right for both these guys.  I have Barwin rated a little higher than English even though I acknowledge English is more ready to contribute.  I just think Barwin has so much upside.  The reason I'm not pushing either of these guys or any of the OLBs now as hard as I was is I think we could be going another direction for a pass rusher.  I started another thread about who I think it will be.  If that doesn't happen I'm leaning towards Barwin but wouldn't be shocked at Michael Johnson either.  At 6-7, 266 and sub 4.70 speed he could become a very good pass rusher.  I also like Ayers a lot.  Mayock thinks Ayers will end up being the best defensive player taken in this draft.  It's great we have so many options.
     
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    what is "m"?
    Posted by cowlick316


    Board would not show the next post even though the front page said one was there. So I had to post a "m" to get the post to show. it was a big problem on the last board.
     
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    I agree with the comment that English and Barwin would both be reaches at #23.  #34 is about right for both these guys.  I have Barwin rated a little higher than English even though I acknowledge English is more ready to contribute.  I just think Barwin has so much upside.  The reason I'm not pushing either of these guys or any of the OLBs now as hard as I was is I think we could be going another direction for a pass rusher.  I started another thread about who I think it will be.  If that doesn't happen I'm leaning towards Barwin but wouldn't be shocked at Michael Johnson either.  At 6-7, 266 and sub 4.70 speed he could become a very good pass rusher.  I also like Ayers a lot.  Mayock thinks Ayers will end up being the best defensive player taken in this draft.  It's great we have so many options.
    Posted by Faucetman


    Agree at 23 to high for both. I saw a thread that still wanted peppers for 34.
    [edit: OH That's your thread] 
    Faucet
     Let me ask you this / What do I have to do to put you on English today? HaHa
     English does evreything that we know peppers does as of right now. I'll give you English as NOT done it in the NFL. So I'll mark down the price and and give you like 7/9 years of wear and tear.

    I say take the guy of your choice and the smaller price tag. 34 could be Ayers or one of the two we like. I'm not sure what to make of Johnson. Mayock's also been saying Barwin is more of a mid to late 2nd as of late.

    If we have a pick no matter the # and our guy will be gone before you pick again is that a reach? Or do you take someone who has falling to you?
     
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    Agree at 23 to high for both. I saw a thread that still wanted peppers for 34. [edit: OH That's your thread]  Faucet  Let me ask you this / What do I have to do to put you on English today? HaHa  English does evreything that we know peppers does as of right now. I'll give you English as NOT done it in the NFL. So I'll mark down the price and and give you like 7/9 years of wear and tear. I say take the guy of your choice and the smaller price tag. 34 could be Ayers or one of the two we like. I'm not sure what to make of Johnson. Mayock's also been saying Barwin is more of a mid to late 2nd as of late. If we have a pick no matter the # and our guy will be gone before you pick again is that a reach? Or do you take someone who has falling to you?
    Posted by ohyes


    To put me in that English car it's going to have to be a Jaguar, lol.  Seriously I'm not against English at #34 and don't think he'll be a reach there.  He is more ready by a mile than Barwin to step in and play OLB.  Both Barwin and English played at small schools against less then elite competition so there is that risk. 

    I live in SoCal now so I'm a little more up on USC's LBs.  I find it funny when everyone has Matthews (who was a walk-on) and Cushing rated higher than Maualuga.  RM was the leader of that defense emotionally and statistically for the past two seasons.  But, I'd take any of these LBs over English and Barwin at this point. 

    My brother, who runs a draft website, is in love with Michael Johnson.  Mayock dumped all over him and his ratings plunged.  At least Johnson played at a big program.  At 6-7 it will be tough to throw over him into the flat.  I worry he will have a hard time getting leverage against shorter RGs.  He will have to use speed and spin moves.  Got to run...
     
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    Z, I agree with the concerns you noted about English as an OLB. I think Barwin would be better from day one, because he can actually move in space like a linebacker.

    Everette Brown, Larry English, and Aaron Maybin all seem to lack the lateral quickness and change of direction required to be decent in coverage. They are all undersized DE's, which made us all talk about them as 3-4 OLBs, but when they were actually tested moving around in space, they all looked pretty bad.

    Brown probably has the worst lateral mobility of the three. That being said, it's entirely possible that English and Maybin could eventually make above average 3 down OLBs, but it's a crapshoot, and they wouldn't be the first undersized DEs to fail in coverage as OLBs.

    We already have Crable as a pass rushing specialist with questionable ability in coverage, and pass rushing is the only area Brown, Maybin or English might upgrade, with a high likelihood that they would.

    I think the concerns about Michael Johnson are overblown. He's a hard worker, well liked by the coaches, and I think the scouts who have been quoted are being overly harsh because he is so physically talented. I don't think he'd be a reach at 34 by any means, and there is a good chance that he could be gone by then.

    The concern about Johnson that holds the most weight with me is that he can be slow to recognize and react to plays, which means that he might not be very good in coverage despite his athleticism.

    Like English and Maybin, I think he still has upside as a 3 down OLB, and I'd rank him slightly higher than both.

    I don't think there's any guarantee that Barwin will be there at 34, although it seems likely at this point. Miami could still take him at 25.

    I think Cushing could be a nice ILB next to Mayo, and he plays stronger than his size. Both Cushing and Laurenaitis could play ILB all 3 downs without any question, imo, although neither can thump like Maualuga. Laurenaitis actually tested very, very well in the 3 cone at the combine, and I think the concerns about his athleticism are overblown.

    Brinkley also ran a surprisingly fast 3 cone, which is interesting.

    I'm curious if Vontae Davis rates better as a safety, and if his concentration issues would be minimized in that role. What do you think?



     
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    For me there are only 15 guys that are first round talents and should be gone before #23.  I have them in red below.

    I almost put Rey Maualuga in this group but if there are concerns about him being a 2 down player that keeps him out.  The QBs in another year might not make this group but in this year with the number of teams needing a QB, all three should be gone.  Jenkins is on this list as a S because he will not play CB in the NFL with mid 4.5 speed unless it is as a nickel.

    I did a mock last week that I will likely change but based on team needs this is how I have it.  I see a run on OTs again because the good ones won't make it around again.  If Beatty or Britton are there at #23 I'd be tempted to take one because there will be an OLB at #34 and likely still one there at #47 (Sintim).

    1DetroitMatthew Stafford
    2St. LouisJason Smith
    3Kansas CityAaron Curry
    4SeattleEugene Monroe
    5ClevelandBrian Orakpo
    6CincinnatiAndre Smith
    7OaklandEverette Brown
    8JacksonvilleMichael Crabtree
    9Green BayBrian Cushing
    10San FranciscoMark Sanchez
    11BuffaloMichael Oher
    12DenverB.J. Raji
    13WashingtonJeremy Maclin
    14New OrleansChris Wells
    15HoustonMalcolm Jenkins
    16San DiegoRey Maualuga
    17N.Y. JetsJosh Freeman
    18Denver (from Chicago)Tyson Jackson
    19Tampa BayRobert Ayers
    20Detroit (from Dallas)Eben Britton
    21PhiladelphiaWilliam Beatty
    22MinnesotaVontae Davis
    23New EnglandEvander Hood
    24AtlantaPeria Jerry
    25MiamiClay Matthews
    26BaltimoreDarrius Heyward-Bey
    27IndianapolisHakeem Nicks
    28Philadelphia (from Carolina)Brandon Pettigrew
    29N.Y. GiantsKenny Britt
    30TennesseePercy Harvin
    31ArizonaKnowshon Moreno
    32PittsburghMichael Johnson
     
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    Zb & aro both well thought out posts.  I'd like to add that a team should always take the surest bet in the first round because of the money and length of contract.  Need should be a secondary concern.  When you are a good team like the Pats, Indy, Pittsburgh etc you don't worry about need as much as you do being sure you've drafted a guy who will be a productive starter for many years. 

    Of the guys not in red from my earlier post I think the two OTs, two DTs and Pettigrew are pretty safe bets to pan out.  I think Ayers will end up being a stud too but he is riskier because he wasn't good until last season.  Davis, H-Bey, Harvin and Johnson I view as high risk of being busts.  I worry about Davis' intellegence and his brother so far has struggled.  I worry that Cushing might have reached his potential.  So again, I think we should keep that first pick really safe.  There is nothing wrong with grabbing another OL even though we have 14 already when most of the 14 will be F/A after the season.  My preference right now would be to go defense in either Hood or Ayers because of the uncertainty on the D line after the season.  Butler should probably be in my mock and he's a possibility too. 

    Kiper has not had a good track record recently with his mocks so he's guessing as much as any of us.
     
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    Got to take a break from football.  Going out to Red Sox/Angels game right now.  I'll be the big guy wearing a Youkilis jersey down the 3rd base line.  :))))
     
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    Faucet, tough to say who the safest pick at 23 would be. I'd say Maualuga if he was there, and I think the concerns about him being able to play 3 downs are overblown.

    I don't think we have a real need for a right tackle, so I think Britt would be out. Beatty might make sense but I don't think he's a guranteed success by any means.

    Hood seems like a very safe pick. Cushing and Laurenaitis also, without being particularly exciting.

    I'd be happy to trade up to 15 for Oher, since HOU seems to be looking at Cushing and Mathews, both of whom should be there at 23.




     
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