Re: Draft Killers - BB and DBs
posted at 8/12/2013 3:03 PM EDT
In response to TexasPat's comment:
In response to Muzwell's comment:
Without looking it up, I can't name a Ravens CB from last year's playoff run, I remember Reed and Pollard at S, that's it. Nor can I remember a NYG DB from '11 or a GB DB from '10 (well, S Woodson was there I believe?). I think they were all pretty average to decent players, no stars.
RESPONSE: Both of those teams could get away with an average secondary...because they could rush the passer...especially the Giants.
Who are SF's CBs, best defense in the league, right? Not because of their DBs.
RESPONSE: FS Dashon Goldston and SS Donte Whitner each made the pro-bowl last year. And, again, SF can, unlike the Pats, rush the passer.
Give me average DBs, solid LBs and some heat on the QB and I'm a hero DC.
RESPONSE: True. But, since the Pats' haven't had that, their weak secondary has gotten torched.
Ty Law was a fine player, but who else did they have at CB? A bunch of journeymen, that's who.
RESPONSE: Lawyer Milloy was a "journeyman"?? Rodney Harrison a journeyman?
How many SBs have Champ Bailey and Darrell Revis won? You can throw in loud mouth Sherman if you want. Two fewer than Otis Smith, that's how many.
RESPONSE: Stop it! Who played QB for those teams? Who coached those teams?
It's an overrated position.
RESPONSE: It's not as important as a good defender who can rush the passer...I'll grant you that. But, if a team can't rush the passer, it had better have a good secondary.
Don't think anything you said actually contradicted what I said. If you can't rush the passer (and contain the running game, while you're at it), you can't have a great defense. DBs can only do so much for so long. CB is perhaps the most fungible position in football, besides RB. Sure, there are a handful of stars and some just below that, but the vast majority are interchangeable. Just like RBs. If you swapped Buffalo's CBs for SF's, would it matter one bit to either team?
I referred to SF's CBs, not their DBs overall. I can't name one, I can't name a Raven CB (well, Webb, but he didn't play last year). Same with the old Pats, I was referring specifically to CB not safety. They won with journeymen, Smith, Poole, Buckley. That's all you need.
Also, you saying RESPONSE: Stop it! Who played QB for those teams? Who coached those teams? is pretty much making my point. Those things are far more important than CB, or DB overall. (So are DL and LB.) You can make it to the SB and win it with a great QB and a lousy defensive backfield, but try it the other way around.