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    Chandler Jones- Certainly has the size/length/athleticism that BB covets in the mold of Big Willie and that appears to be how they intend to use him at this point.  Has the ability to play 43 DE and will play 34 OLB as well.  Huge upside with this kid.

    Dont'a Hightower- My favorite pick in this class, big, versatile, proven, smart... could start at/play any LB position in either scheme, IMO... also has the ability to put his hand in the dirt, rush off the edge when they go 43.  I really like his pass rush upside.

    Tavon Wilson- Tough to get excited about this one, the kid was generally rated as a Rd 6-7 prospect and most would be hard pressed  to view him as the best S remaining on the board, let alone the BPA.  Certainly have to give BB/NC the benefit of the doubt until we can see him play, but wow did this one come out of no where... similar to when Al Davis took unknown Ohio S Mike Mitchell in Rd 2 of the2009 draft.  Curious to know if he was another teams radar given that BB didn't trade back here as on the surface, one would think he would've been available later on Day 2.  

    Pick 62- Their compensation seemed a bit light (90 &163), especially considering the Browns traded pick 67 for 87 and 120. 

    Jake Bequette- I like this pick too, another kid with the height/length/motor that BB covets.  Kid can rush the passer, and while it appears to signal a shift to more 43, it gives them depth/size/length/pass rush ability on the edge to play 34... some solid athleticism and versatility.

    Fans have been clamoring for BB to draft pass rush talent for years, and that is  just what he did.

    Overall, I'm stoked about this size/length/skill/versatility/edge rush ability that was brought in in this class. 
     
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    Dont'a Hightower: Not that the guy cannot not play but where will he play? I don't think an ILB was an area of need. If that guy takes playing time from Spikes it means that Spikes was another wasted pick. Trading up twice was too much considering BB wanted day 3 picks thus forcing the day 2 mega reach.

    Tavon Wilson: Mega reach. If BB was so badly needing a safety why not drafting Smith instead of Hightower at the end of the first round? To me BB pulled the trigger because he found no one to trade that first 2nd round pick and knew he would trade the 2nd one for 3rd day picks.
     
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    [QUOTE]Dont'a Hightower : Not that the guy cannot not play but where will he play? I don't think an ILB was an area of need. If that guy takes playing time from Spikes it means that Spikes was another wasted pick. Trading up twice was too much considering BB wanted day 3 picks thus forcing the day 2 mega reach. Tavon Wilson : Mega reach. If BB was so badly needing a safety why not drafting Smith instead of Hightower at the end of the first round? To me BB pulled the trigger because he found no one to trade that first 2nd round pick and knew he would trade the 2nd one for 3rd day picks.
    Posted by FrogLegs[/QUOTE]

    Hightower is one of the more versatile players in this class, as I mentioned above, he can prob start/play any of the LB positions in either scheme and can rush off the edge as a DE when they go 43.  He gives BB HUGE positional versatility.
     
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    [QUOTE]Chandler Jones - Certainly has the size/length/athleticism that BB covets in the mold of Big Willie and that appears to be how they intend to use him at this point.  Has the ability to play 43 DE and will play 34 OLB as well.  Huge upside with this kid. Dont'a Hightower - My favorite pick in this class, big, versatile, proven, smart... could start at/play any LB position in either scheme, IMO... also has the ability to put his hand in the dirt, rush off the edge when they go 43.  I really like his pass rush upside. Tavon Wilson - Tough to get excited about this one, the kid was generally rated as a Rd 6-7 prospect and most would be hard pressed  to view him as the best S remaining on the board, let alone the BPA.  Certainly have to give BB/NC the benefit of the doubt until we can see him play, but wow did this one come out of no where.   Pick 62 - Their compensation seemed a bit light (90 &163), especially considering the Browns traded pick 67 for 87 and 120.  Jake Bequette - I like this pick too, another kid with the height/length/motor that BB covets.  Kid can rush the passer, and while it appears to signal a shift to more 43, it gives them depth/size/length/pass rush ability on the edge to play 34... some solid athleticism and versatility. Fans have been clamoring for BB to draft pass rush talent for years, and that is  just what he did.
    Posted by mbeaulieu07[/QUOTE]

         What happened, or, perhaps more correctly, didn't happen last night, certainly put a damper on things. Loved day one...and the Jones/Hightower picks. As for Wilson, even if he pans out...the Pats had no business taking him with their 48th overall pick. Not good value for that pick. Also dissatisfied with the "value" obtained for pick #62.   

         Hope I'm dead wrong about day two.  
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to ***Draft Thoughts*** :      What happened, or, perhaps more correctly, didn't happen last night, certainly put a damper on things. Loved day one...and the Jones/Hightower picks. As for Wilson, even if he pans out...the Pats had no business taking him with their 48th overall pick. Not good value for that pick. Also dissatisfied with the "value" obtained for pick #62.         Hope I'm dead wrong about day two.  
    Posted by TexasPat[/QUOTE]

    I mean, if he pans out, the pick is justified so we'll have to wait and see... certainly doesn't excite you though... though unfortunately that's based on where the rest of the scouting community had him rated.

    To put a positive spin on it, one has to think that they weren't the only team that coveted him as they didn't trade down or pick someone else in that slot.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to ***Draft Thoughts*** :      What happened, or, perhaps more correctly, didn't happen last night, certainly put a damper on things. Loved day one...and the Jones/Hightower picks. As for Wilson, even if he pans out...the Pats had no business taking him with their 48th overall pick. Not good value for that pick. Also dissatisfied with the "value" obtained for pick #62.         Hope I'm dead wrong about day two.  
    Posted by TexasPat[/QUOTE]

    In an ideal world we get to make picks without the influence of others around us. We even imagine we can control others actions and act freely and they will bend to our wishes. In an ideal world anything is possible......

    My sense is BB found himself in an un-ideal world! He got squeezed with no great choices in front of him. No suitable options for trade and a player he probably would have picked later if he did have options. I really don't think the pick was out of the blue as it might seem. He had little firepower remaining in the draft and other teams knew it. If he offered to tradeback he probably did not like the terms so he decided to eat crow and take the pick. Pride? Perhaps, we'll never know for sure...

     
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    [QUOTE]Dont'a Hightower : Not that the guy cannot not play but where will he play? I don't think an ILB was an area of need. If that guy takes playing time from Spikes it means that Spikes was another wasted pick. Trading up twice was too much considering BB wanted day 3 picks thus forcing the day 2 mega reach. Tavon Wilson : Mega reach. If BB was so badly needing a safety why not drafting Smith instead of Hightower at the end of the first round? To me BB pulled the trigger because he found no one to trade that first 2nd round pick and knew he would trade the 2nd one for 3rd day picks.
    Posted by FrogLegs[/QUOTE]

    Hightower is a lot like Mayo the differences are that Mayo is better in coverage and Hightower is better in pass rushing but both have similar traits. In 43 I would expect Hightower will be the Sam and Mayo as Will. In 34 for pass rush packages Hightower would be in the Will with Mayo inside and in coverage packages and run defense packages Mayo would be the Will and Hightower would be inside. That's my guess. Now the question is between Scott, Nink, Jones, and Bequette is where you play all those guys

     
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    It's also funny that none of the ESPN/NFL Network analysts had the balls to rip the pick, or atleast I don't remember them ripping the pick... similar to how they talked about TJ Graham being drafted too high by the Bills, then panned to Mayock's draft board card to show where he had him ranked (Rd 7, etc.)
     
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    I really like Hightower. When I think of all the best defenses in the NFL they all have deep LB cores. 49ers, Steelers, Jets a coule years ago, etc. the Pats were 2 deep in a position that puts 4 on the field at a time (Spikes, Mayo). I would have liked to see some help on the line but I'm excited to see this defense with Mayo, Spikes, and Hightower roaming around next to Jones or Fanene or whoever. I don't know much about Wilson but I'm hoping he or somebody else can play next to Chung. I like the way the defense is shaping up right now. I wasn't big on grabbing a receiver this year. With Welker (probably), Lloyd, Branch, Ocho, Stallworth, Gonzalez, Slater, and Edelman two of those guys will be cut. If they grab a receiver than they cut a third to make room for a guy who probably sits and develops for a year.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: ***Draft Thoughts*** : I mean, if he pans out, the pick is justified so we'll have to wait and see... certainly doesn't excite you though... though unfortunately that's based on where the rest of the scouting community had him rated. To put a positive spin on it, one has to think that they weren't the only team that coveted him as they didn't trade down or pick someone else in that slot.
    Posted by mbeaulieu07[/QUOTE]

         With players that the Pats could have really used, such as:
     
    49. Chargers - Kendall Reyes - DT - Connecticut
    50. Rams - Isaiah Pead - RB - Cincinnati
    51. Packers - Jerel Worthy - DT - Michigan State
    52. Titans - Zach Brown - LB - North Carolina
    53. Bengals - Devon Still - DT - Penn State
    54. Lions - Ryan Broyles - WR - Oklahoma
    55. Falcons - Peter Konz - C - Wisconsin
    56. Steelers - Mike Adams - OT - Ohio State
    57. Broncos - Brock Osweiler - QB - Arizona State
    58. Buccaneers - Lavonte David - OLB - Nebraska
    59. Eagles - Vinny Curry - DE - Marshall
    60. Ravens - Kelechi Osemele - OG - Iowa State
    61. 49ers - LaMichael James - RB - Oregon
    62. Packers - Casey Hayward - CB - Vanderbilt
    63. Giants - Rueben Randle - WR - LSU
    64. Colts - Dwayne Allen -TE - Clemson
    65. Rams - Trumaine Johnson - CB - Montana 
    66. Vikings - Josh Robinson - CB - Central Florida 

    the Wilson selection really bites. Hope I'm wrong.    
     
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    Posted in another thread - but I think worth saying again ...BB praised NC for preserving the two 2nd round picks on day one with the trades up. But I don't think there were any surprise picks after pick #25, and if BB had Wilson as his top day 2 target, then why was preserving both round 2s necessary? I got to believe if NC offered Denver #62 instead of #126, he could have gotten a round three pick as well as #25. We would have the same two draftees on day two and still have our original round 4 rather than a late round 5 pick.
    I also really do wonder if both trades in round 1 were necessary? I think Houston was the only threat for Jones, and GB was the only threat for Hightower once he got past Pitt. I think the trade with Denver was probably the only necessary one.
    My overall take - Hightower and Bequette are the only two picks I am excited about. I know folks are high on Jones, but I think he is a 50/50 proposition who needs to develop. Not going to comment on our round 2 pick.
    I do trust BB the coach, but I am not that thrilled with BB the college talent evaluator.
     
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    [QUOTE]Chandler Jones - Certainly has the size/length/athleticism that BB covets in the mold of Big Willie and that appears to be how they intend to use him at this point.  Has the ability to play 43 DE and will play 34 OLB as well.  Huge upside with this kid. Dont'a Hightower - My favorite pick in this class, big, versatile, proven, smart... could start at/play any LB position in either scheme, IMO... also has the ability to put his hand in the dirt, rush off the edge when they go 43.  I really like his pass rush upside. Tavon Wilson - Tough to get excited about this one, the kid was generally rated as a Rd 6-7 prospect and most would be hard pressed  to view him as the best S remaining on the board, let alone the BPA.  Certainly have to give BB/NC the benefit of the doubt until we can see him play, but wow did this one come out of no where... similar to when Al Davis took unknown Ohio S Mike Mitchell in Rd 2 of the2009 draft.  Curious to know if he was another teams radar given that BB didn't trade back here as on the surface, one would think he would've been available later on Day 2.    Pick 62 - Their compensation seemed a bit light (90 &163), especially considering the Browns traded pick 67 for 87 and 120.  Jake Bequette - I like this pick too, another kid with the height/length/motor that BB covets.  Kid can rush the passer, and while it appears to signal a shift to more 43, it gives them depth/size/length/pass rush ability on the edge to play 34... some solid athleticism and versatility. Fans have been clamoring for BB to draft pass rush talent for years, and that is  just what he did.
    Posted by mbeaulieu07[/QUOTE]
    I liked the Chandler pick, but I immediately thought we are going to be seeing more 43 this year. Just from the video I saw of him it looked as if he was a 43 defensive end and quite honestly a pretty darn good one. He looks so big and long in the arms, but he didn't look like a guy that was going to be able to play in space to me. I'm sure they'll try to put him out there and coach him up, but in the end I think he'll be a defensive end. People bring up Willie McGinnest, but McGinnest ran a 4.5 out of USC.

    I loved the Hightower pick, you can't have eough guys in your front seven that are that big and smart. He'll be able to play along the line of scrimmage and not kill you in coverage. He may not be fast like Mayo, but for all of Mayo's speed - he's always just enough off instinctively in coverage to be late on the play. I can't believe the size of this guys legs...he looks like he's got tree trunks. Just a very physical, big and tough player.

    The Wilson pick made me want to throw up. He was their best player on the board at that point? These kind of picks absolutely kill me, they select a guy that may not be selected in this entire draft and you do it in the second round? We always talk about how we tricked the Jets into thinking we were going to select Gholston...who tricked us into thinking they were going to reach 5 rounds to select an undersized 25th ranked safety?

    The trade was also a head scratcher. We talk all day about value and then we do this? I really think when Wolfe came off the board it threw a monkey wrench into their plans for the second round. I think as good as the first round went for them, the second round was a disaster - a lot of the players I think they wanted were gone.

    I liked Bequette too. He looks like a nice 43 defensive end to me. A non stop hustling player, with some good athleticism and length. He looks like he's strong as well. I would hope both he and Chandler could play outside in a 34, but man that seams like a reach to me at that spot. Maybe they are going to modify the responsibilities of the position for these two? That could be the case, the Steelers do that sort of thing for there outside guys...Jason Gildon wasn't a play in space player and he was a productive 34 linebacker.
     
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    I'm starting to think that the NFL teams aren't very excited about the depth of this draft.  The first 25-30 picks were filled with trades and teams making moves for impact guys.  Day 2 had far less movement, like the teams were just waiting for their pick, not really caring if someone got away.  Heck, Jacksonville, a team with a ton of needs, drafted a punter early in the 3rd round.  I'm glad we make the moves that we did on Day 1 for Hightower & Jones.  Also, I think Tavon Wilson was more highly coveted by teams than anyone on this board or in the media realized.  Reiss listed 6-8 teams who had worked him out in the past month or so, one of which was SD, who had the next pick.  SD took a Safety (Taylor from LSU) in the 3rd, so I bet BB felt that he had to take Tavon Wilson before they had a crack at him at 49. 
     
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    Caveat--I don't watch enough college football to have a really good sense of who's good or not, so I have to base my observations on what I read more than what I've seen.  A few thoughts, though, based on what I've read:
    • Jones makes sense over Mercilus if what I've read is true: Mercilus is almost exclusively an upfield, attack the QB, player while Jones can drop back into coverage. BB rarely employees one-dimensional specialists, so Jones looks like the right choice for this coach. 
    • Hightower has had an impressive college career and seems to have the leadership and intelligence BB looks for.  He does seem to be more of an ILB than an OLB and I wonder about his pass coverage ability (something that has been poor among our LBs and something I'd like to see improved), but BB adjusts his schemes to his player's skills very well and I'm sure he'll be able to integrate Hightower into the schemes effectively, so I don't get too hung up on "positions" since BB doesn't really use players in standard ways anyway.
    • Wilson . . . of course I worry that this will go the way of a lot of other second and third round gambles on defenders (Butler, Wheatley, Crable, etc), but again you get a guy who is said to be a leader, intelligent, and versatile--all things BB likes.  He's also said to be good against the run, which makes me wonder if BB plans to use a lot of 5 DB (big nickel) sets with good run defending safeties acting almost as the fourth LB (and therefore improving pass coverage in the underneath zones). As far as taking Wilson this high, I have to believe BB thought his stock was rising and other teams were eyeing him (one article said seven teams had him for visits).  BB didn't have a lot of picks to work with and if he really wanted this guy, why not take him?  A lot of second and lower round picks don't work out anyway, so gambles are tolerable.
    • The trade--seems like the value was low, but I am sure BB wanted a few more picks to get a few more mid-round players into camp and if that was the only deal available at the time, then I guess it makes sense.
    • Bequette--will challenge for a back up DE position, I think.  A lot will depend on his ability to either be very effective as a pass rush specialist or prove he has the versatility to play standing up as an OLB.      

    One thing I expect this year is a lot of fluidity on defense, with BB using guys in "tweener" type roles, so it's hard to say whether a guy is a corner or safety, a safety or LB, an ILB or an OLB, or an OLB or DE, or a DE or DT.  There will be 2, 3, 4, and 5 man lines, with various combos of DBs and LBs.  It should be a lot of fun to watch and confusing for offenses.  That's the great thing about posiiton versatility.  The potential downside is that no one will be great at any one thing and so we have a lot of verstatile players but no shut down corner and no ferocious pass rusher (though I'm hoping Jones will prove to be the latter).  


     
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    Picks one and two were excellent. Tavon Wilson was a mistake pick. I'm not saying he won't be a good player, he certainly might. What was wrong with the pick is the round. BB could have picked a better DE with 48 and still traded down (pick 62) and used the 163rd pick for Wilson. He probably would have still been there.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to ***Draft Thoughts*** : I liked the Chandler pick, but I immediately thought we are going to be seeing more 43 this year. Just from the video I saw of him it looked as if he was a 43 defensive end and quite honestly a pretty darn good one. He looks so big and long in the arms, but he didn't look like a guy that was going to be able to play in space to me. I'm sure they'll try to put him out there and coach him up, but in the end I think he'll be a defensive end. People bring up Willie McGinnest, but McGinnest ran a 4.5 out of USC. I loved the Hightower pick, you can't have eough guys in your front seven that are that big and smart. He'll be able to play along the line of scrimmage and not kill you in coverage. He may not be fast like Mayo, but for all of Mayo's speed - he's always just enough off instinctively in coverage to be late on the play. I can't believe the size of this guys legs...he looks like he's got tree trunks. Just a very physical, big and tough player. The Wilson pick made me want to throw up. He was their best player on the board at that point? These kind of picks absolutely kill me, they select a guy that may not be selected in this entire draft and you do it in the second round? We always talk about how we tricked the Jets into thinking we were going to select Gholston...who tricked us into thinking they were going to reach 5 rounds to select an undersized 25th ranked safety? The trade was also a head scratcher. We talk all day about value and then we do this? I really think when Wolfe came off the board it threw a monkey wrench into their plans for the second round. I think as good as the first round went for them, the second round was a disaster - a lot of the players I think they wanted were gone. I liked Bequette too. He looks like a nice 43 defensive end to me. A non stop hustling player, with some good athleticism and length. He looks like he's strong as well. I would hope both he and Chandler could play outside in a 34, but man that seams like a reach to me at that spot. Maybe they are going to modify the responsibilities of the position for these two? That could be the case, the Steelers do that sort of thing for there outside guys...Jason Gildon wasn't a play in space player and he was a productive 34 linebacker.
    Posted by mthurl[/QUOTE]

    I had similar thoughts on Jones, though such is the result of our limited access to game film... would love to be able to watch multiple full game vids on these prospects!
     
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    I too was wondering about day 2 ... but have to like the focus on Defense this draft.

    * Jones looks to have huge upside -- and another Big Willie type is a 10 year positive move ...

    * I recall a lot of talk that Hightower was the next Ray Lewis - and the Ravens wanted him ... even if he is the next "1/2" Ray Lewis we will have many happier defensive third downs next year

    * Hard to know what is behind the Wilson pick -- but a lot of good players were available (see Texaspat's list) - including a few DBs that were mocked to us --- so I think about how I felt when we went for Seabass in the second and look how well that turned out ... I assume our coaches know a lot more about fit than we do.

    * like the Bequette pick - seems to be a Patriots type of guy.

    * figure a flyer on a WR or an OL pick remains ...
     
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    [QUOTE]I'm starting to think that the NFL teams aren't very excited about the depth of this draft.  The first 25-30 picks were filled with trades and teams making moves for impact guys.  Day 2 had far less movement, like the teams were just waiting for their pick, not really caring if someone got away.  Heck, Jacksonville, a team with a ton of needs, drafted a punter early in the 3rd round.  I'm glad we make the moves that we did on Day 1 for Hightower & Jones.  Also, I think Tavon Wilson was more highly coveted by teams than anyone on this board or in the media realized.  Reiss listed 6-8 teams who had worked him out in the past month or so, one of which was SD, who had the next pick.  SD took a Safety (Taylor from LSU) in the 3rd, so I bet BB felt that he had to take Tavon Wilson before they had a crack at him at 49. 
    Posted by WazzuWheatfarmer[/QUOTE]

    Waz,
    I'd have to agree with this though, had mentioned it as well in my OP.  We just don't know enough about what the scouting community things on all players and this kid could very well have been coveted by multiple teams.
     
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    Wilson will at least start as a gunner on punts and kickoffs with Slater on the other side, Stallworth was good a few years ago but he's aged and I'm not sure he can even make this team as a WR.  How long will it take Wilson to develop into a starting safety is another question?  Bill must think he can do it within this year to take him in the second round . . . at any rate he will be better in the dime packages than have Julian back there!
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: ***Draft Thoughts*** : Waz, I'd have to agree with this though, had mentioned it as well in my OP.  We just don't know enough about what the scouting community things on all players and this kid could very well have been coveted by multiple teams.
    Posted by mbeaulieu07[/QUOTE]

    Good point, MB.  Some of us "draft-junkies" spend a lot of time looking at mocks and researching players leading up to the draft.  While the pre-draft mocks are a great way to get to know different prospects, the reality is that the NFL team's ranking and opinions of players are usually vastly different from the media's view and that of all the "draft experts" on the web.  I'm sure that Wilson was a much more desired Safety prospect than any us realized, or the media for that matter.  Rest assured that NE had a good reason to take this kid where they did, we'll just have to wait and see how he works out. 
     
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    [QUOTE]Picks one and two were excellent. Tavon Wilson was a mistake pick. I'm not saying he won't be a good player, he certainly might. What was wrong with the pick is the round. BB could have picked a better DE with 48 and still traded down (pick 62) and used the 163rd pick for Wilson. He probably would have still been there.
    Posted by mlgvt48[/QUOTE]

    I was thinking this same thing yesterday but the more I think of it BB is NOT an idoit.  One, they must really like him.  Two, there HAD to be some team that was looking to take this kid in this round or like everyone is saying there would have been no reason to take him at this point.  I mean I can't really believe the Pats would have drafted him this high if they really thought they could have gotten him later.

    Now they maybe wrong in his talent as we have seen in other picks (Butler, Wheatly, Meri, et al) but the Pats do not usually mess up how/when/where they draft people. 
     
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    I am floored at the negative response of this draft. If you told me a week ago that BB will get 2 DE/OLB's a safety and probably the most versatile LBer in the draft in the 1st 2 rounds I wouldn't have believed it. I mean this is exactly what we needed and fans are throwing up all over themselves. Anyway, I noticed as soon as Wilson was picked Mayock says this kid was flying up teams draft boards. BB took him for a reason. 3 year starter in a great program. Very good measurables. Wilson also reminds of Eugene Wilson who played the same position from the same school. A versatile player who can move all over the secondary. Bequette's description oncbs sports literally says a " versatile Mike Vrabel type player" 6'5 275 with great cone and shuttle times. A 4 year starter!!! Very smart. Excellent pick. The defense just got athletic and the pass rush has been fortified by 3 of the 4 players we selected. Draft grade = A +
     
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    [QUOTE]I am floored at the negative response of this draft. If you told me a week ago that BB will get 2 DE/OLB's a safety and probably the most versatile LBer in the draft in the 1st 2 rounds I wouldn't have believed it. I mean this is exactly what we needed and fans are throwing up all over themselves. Anyway, I noticed as soon as Wilson was picked Mayock says this kid was flying up teams draft boards. BB took him for a reason. 3 year starter in a great program. Very good measurables. Wilson also reminds of Eugene Wilson who played the same position from the same school. A versatile player who can move all over the secondary. Bequette's description oncbs sports literally says a " versatile Mike Vrabel type player" 6'5 275 with great cone and shuttle times. A 4 year starter!!! Very smart. Excellent pick. The defense just got athletic and the pass rush has been fortified by 3 of the 4 players we selected. Draft grade = A +
    Posted by TrueChamp[/QUOTE]

    The negativity from fans is tied mostly to BB not drafting a household name at 48 and the apparent lack of value trading down with pick 62.  BB and Co. deserve the benefit of the doubt.

    Overall, I think the fan response has been positive, fans were elated at the end of Day 1.

    Overall, I'm stoked about this class... a ton of size/length/versatility/athleticism and pass rush ability.
     
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    Re: ***Draft Thoughts***

    Obviously the choice of Wilson is overshadowing almost everything else.

    I say let's at least wait until August/September when he steps on the field before ripping the choice.  Maybe they use him at corner as well as safety.  The last 5 years our secondary has been a war of attrition.  His durability alone may make him valuable.  He doesn't have the height to go up against big WRs but they may work him in in nickel packages.
     
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