Drawing Shane Vereen

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    Drawing Shane Vereen

    Kevin Faulk and Danny Woodhead were capable of converting third and six or seven yards to go on draw plays. Shane Vereen doesnt do this.  I don't think vereen has impressed running the ball- i think he is pretty soft and not a gamer- he has flashed in a couple games but has not been consistently productive. Vereen and Ridley both seemed so promising but now i dont think either one of them will sign another contract with the patriots

     
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    Uh....Ok. You clearly don't watch enough Patriots games. All you did is make a bunch of opinionated statements without facts to back it up. Vereen played the first game with a broken wrist...how is that not tough and being a gamer, he then came back and and played with avast on while still catching balls which ain't easy either! We don't care who gets us 3rd and long, as long as we get 1st downs and enough TDs to win the game.

     
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    Kevin Faulk and Danny Woodhead were capable of converting third and six or seven yards to go on draw plays. Shane Vereen doesnt do this.  I don't think vereen has impressed running the ball- i think he is pretty soft and not a gamer- he has flashed in a couple games but has not been consistently productive. Vereen and Ridley both seemed so promising but now i dont think either one of them will sign another contract with the patriots

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    what games are you watching? Vereen is a very capable runner.

     
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    Re: Drawing Shane Vereen

    i don't think he is a good or even adequate between the tackles runner

     
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    That's not his game nor is that were he would run in a draw...but ok

     
     
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    you guys are in a denial... it's sad really

     
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    you guys are in a denial... it's sad really


    just like you're in denial the Giants got lucky, twice. Worry about your team and players

     

     

     
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    Re: Drawing Shane Vereen

    On a limited basis Vereen has been effective running between the tackles. He averaged 4.7 yds per carry last year and based on his role in the offense a good % of his rushing attempts probably came on 3rd down.

     
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    Kevin Faulk and Danny Woodhead were capable of converting third and six or seven yards to go on draw plays. Shane Vereen doesnt do this.  I don't think vereen has impressed running the ball- i think he is pretty soft and not a gamer- he has flashed in a couple games but has not been consistently productive. Vereen and Ridley both seemed so promising but now i dont think either one of them will sign another contract with the patriots

    SO he "flashed" in the 2012 playoffs. 2013 opener. Second half of 2013. And the 2013 playoff loss.

    Broken wrist....obvious he's just not tough like Gronk....errrr.....Wilfork.....errrr.....Mayo.....errrr.....Kelly......errrr......God, thank you for pointing out the group of marshmallows! They need to rebrand this team! The New England Stay Pufts!


    Yes, all of us are in denial, it's not that you are just wrong.

    That's 2 people bemoaning the toughness/injuries of Vereen, and without looking, I already know they happily accept Gronk.

     

     

     
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    you guys are in a denial... it's sad really



    If you watch him run between the tackles - even this last game - you will see he is good at picking his way through and not dancing the hole to oblivion. He runs under control looking for the blocks. Similar to the backs you named except that he has a higher top end speed.

    WHile it is not his bread and butter he is solid at it.

    You say "in denial" and "sad" and yet you already had to back track from your first statement when someone pointed out that Vereen played with a broken wrist.

    I suspect you will either back track or remain quiet as the year unfolds, as his career unfolds.

     
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    i don't think he is a good or even adequate between the tackles runner



    He runs draws, zone stretch running plays etc. He is not a between the tackles runner and he never has been. He will be a beast on screens and other creative passing plays

     
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    Re: Drawing Shane Vereen

    Yeah Vereen still stinks

     
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    Re: Drawing Shane Vereen

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    Kevin Faulk and Danny Woodhead were capable of converting third and six or seven yards to go on draw plays. Shane Vereen doesnt do this.  I don't think vereen has impressed running the ball- i think he is pretty soft and not a gamer- he has flashed in a couple games but has not been consistently productive. Vereen and Ridley both seemed so promising but now i dont think either one of them will sign another contract with the patriots




    Huh?????

     
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    Re: Drawing Shane Vereen

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    Kevin Faulk and Danny Woodhead were capable of converting third and six or seven yards to go on draw plays. Shane Vereen doesnt do this.  I don't think vereen has impressed running the ball- i think he is pretty soft and not a gamer- he has flashed in a couple games but has not been consistently productive. Vereen and Ridley both seemed so promising but now i dont think either one of them will sign another contract with the patriots



    Your franchise QB has been absolutely dreadful for 98% of his career...not impressed by him as a passer, a leader, a runner basically not impressed with anything about him. Don't like Jennings either....mediocre and made to look decent by the medicore team around him (best of a bad bunch). I don't think Jason Pierre-Paul will be back with the Giants, his regression has been something to behold! 

    Think i'd take Vereen over every single Giants player not named Odell Beckham and even when it comes to him i'd rather wait to see what becomes of him.

     

     
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    Re: Drawing Shane Vereen

    Yeah he's not good. He's worse than wood head and Faulk on draws , hands are inconsistent and he is scared to run between the tackles. 

    Not a gamer

     
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    Yeah he's not good. He's worse than wood head and Faulk on draws , hands are inconsistent and he is scared to run between the tackles. 

    Not a gamer



    False. THe subbing of the backs is the reason.  COnstant subbing are tells to the D.

    Keep it up, kids.

    SOme of us have it nailed.

     
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    Denial isn't just a river in Egypt 

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    Yeah he's not good. He's worse than wood head and Faulk on draws , hands are inconsistent and he is scared to run between the tackles. 

    Not a gamer



    False. THe subbing of the backs is the reason.  COnstant subbing are tells to the D.

    Keep it up, kids.

    SOme of us have it nailed.

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    Is this really your first post since this debacle of a thread was started?

    Maybe come back under a new username?

     
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    Re: Drawing Shane Vereen

    Im not gonna question his toughness but I do think filling Faulks shoes arent easy.  Faulk is not a guy that comes along every year. His hands were amazing and he was tough as nails and smart too.

    Vareen is smart, tough but he is small. Kevin was 5'8" about 200 lbs. Vareen is about 5'10 200. Similar weight but Faulk had more mass.  I think Vareen could be better in terms of breaking tackles but being a scat back, I dont expect him to.

    I always loved Woodhead and never knew why he was treated like a jag here. I will say this. Up until last week, I thought Vareen wasnt being used enough but his numbers say he is having a career year. I think its because he is healthy. So I think less is more in this case. He has been used less but also hasnt missed any time so his numbers "look" better. What I dont get is how you can gauge him as runner on draw plays when we probably havent called a draw but a couple times this year. Last week we saw a screen. That also hasnt been used in weeks. Joshy better plan on expanding the playbook come postseason

     
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    it was a very embarrassing post. I will pick a new user name- how about IrishMob7IsATool

     

    In response to IrishMob7's comment:

    Is this really your first post since this debacle of a thread was started?

    Maybe come back under a new username?




     
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    it was a very embarrassing post. I will pick a new user name- how about IrishMob7IsATool

     

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    Is this really your first post since this debacle of a thread was started?

    Maybe come back under a new username?




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    That one is really good.  You get an E for Effort.

    Maybe learn how to use the quote function under your next handle?

     
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    Im not gonna question his toughness but I do think filling Faulks shoes arent easy.  Faulk is not a guy that comes along every year. His hands were amazing and he was tough as nails and smart too.

    Vareen is smart, tough but he is small. Kevin was 5'8" about 200 lbs. Vareen is about 5'10 200. Similar weight but Faulk had more mass.  I think Vareen could be better in terms of breaking tackles but being a scat back, I dont expect him to.

    I always loved Woodhead and never knew why he was treated like a jag here. I will say this. Up until last week, I thought Vareen wasnt being used enough but his numbers say he is having a career year. I think its because he is healthy. So I think less is more in this case. He has been used less but also hasnt missed any time so his numbers "look" better. What I dont get is how you can gauge him as runner on draw plays when we probably havent called a draw but a couple times this year. Last week we saw a screen. That also hasnt been used in weeks. Joshy better plan on expanding the playbook come postseason




    Faulk was our best scatback, no doubt. No one will be Faulk. He had an incredibly underrated career. In my lifetime, he might be the best scatback I've ever seen.

    He had a bit more girth on the legs, so he had the advantage of being successful in between the tackles if you needed him to run.

     

     

     
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    In response to CHAMPSXLVIII's comment:

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    it was a very embarrassing post. I will pick a new user name- how about IrishMob7IsATool

     

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    Is this really your first post since this debacle of a thread was started?

    Maybe come back under a new username?




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    That one is really good.  You get an E for Effort.

    Maybe learn how to use the quote function under your next handle?

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    LOL!!!

     
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    In response to TripleOG's comment:

    Im not gonna question his toughness but I do think filling Faulks shoes arent easy.  Faulk is not a guy that comes along every year. His hands were amazing and he was tough as nails and smart too.

    Vareen is smart, tough but he is small. Kevin was 5'8" about 200 lbs. Vareen is about 5'10 200. Similar weight but Faulk had more mass.  I think Vareen could be better in terms of breaking tackles but being a scat back, I dont expect him to.

    I always loved Woodhead and never knew why he was treated like a jag here. I will say this. Up until last week, I thought Vareen wasnt being used enough but his numbers say he is having a career year. I think its because he is healthy. So I think less is more in this case. He has been used less but also hasnt missed any time so his numbers "look" better. What I dont get is how you can gauge him as runner on draw plays when we probably havent called a draw but a couple times this year. Last week we saw a screen. That also hasnt been used in weeks. Joshy better plan on expanding the playbook come postseason



    Woodhead and Faulk were really good at picking up third and mediums on draw plays. 

    i really think the problem is Vereen is not decisive or tough enough to run inside.

    does Vereen pretty much run wheel routes? It doesn't seem to me he has much a role in the passing game. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Re: Drawing Shane Vereen

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    In response to TripleOG's comment:
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    Im not gonna question his toughness but I do think filling Faulks shoes arent easy.  Faulk is not a guy that comes along every year. His hands were amazing and he was tough as nails and smart too.

    Vareen is smart, tough but he is small. Kevin was 5'8" about 200 lbs. Vareen is about 5'10 200. Similar weight but Faulk had more mass.  I think Vareen could be better in terms of breaking tackles but being a scat back, I dont expect him to.

    I always loved Woodhead and never knew why he was treated like a jag here. I will say this. Up until last week, I thought Vareen wasnt being used enough but his numbers say he is having a career year. I think its because he is healthy. So I think less is more in this case. He has been used less but also hasnt missed any time so his numbers "look" better. What I dont get is how you can gauge him as runner on draw plays when we probably havent called a draw but a couple times this year. Last week we saw a screen. That also hasnt been used in weeks. Joshy better plan on expanding the playbook come postseason



    Woodhead and Faulk were really good at picking up third and mediums on draw plays. 

    i really think the problem is Vereen is not decisive or tough enough to run inside.

    does Vereen pretty much run wheel routes? It doesn't seem to me he has much a role in the passing game. 

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    He's 4th in catches on the team behind Gronk, Edelman and lafell. he has 339 yarrds after the catch 2nd on the team.

    Sure you got the right guy?

     
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