Dropped Passes

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    Dropped Passes

    This is NOT a conclusion or statement of anything regarding dropped passes as it relates to anyone in particular on the Patriots.

    Just information, in case anyone wanted to know.

    Yes the Patriots, as a team currently lead the league in dropped passes with 23 (WR's, TE's, RB's etc.). 19 are by WR group(12 by the two rookies). 4 by RB group. 0 by TE group.

    How are dropped passes defined? I have no idea. Hopefully no matter how they are defined it is simply consistently judged by the same single person across the league. Otherwise it is probably a lot like calling PI. Some are obvious and some are so close that the call is judgement and could go either way.

    Some notable players and drops. (some are in 5 gms and some 6 gms, different tgt amounts)

    Dobson - 6

    Thompkins - 6

    Edelman - 5

    Tavon Austin - 7

    Calvin Johnson - 4

    Eric Decker - 5

    Wes Welker - 4

    Devone Bess - 4

    Josh Gordon - 4

    Stevie Johnson - 4

    Reggie Wayne - 3

    Steve Smith - 3

    AJ Green - 3

    Hakeem Nicks - 3

     

    Team incompletions per game (? Bad pass, did not see open WR, defended pass, dropped ball, miscommunication, etc?)

    Patriots ranked 29th at 17.17 incompletions per game.

    Patriots ranked 30th with 103 total incompletions through 6 weeks (** 8 teams have only played 5 games though, so who knows where they would be if all teams played 6 games **)

    103 - 23drops = 80 incompletions to fall in those other categories in some combination

     

    Passing attempts

    Patriots are 5th in passing attempts at 239 (39.83 attempts per game)

    39.83 - 3.8 drops/gm = 36 passing plays a game left to some combination of ((Bad pass, did not see open WR, miscommunication, [or otherwise known as failed execution]) defended pass,  Completions, etc?)

     

    Most Targets by Rookie Catchers (all are in the top 58 for all NFL receiver options(WR, TE, RB) in total targets)

    Jordan Cameron (TE) - 54 (4th round)

    Thompkins (WR) - 50 (UdFA)

    Robert Woods (WR) - 45 (2nd round)

    Tavon Austin (WR) - 41 **another rookie with a high drop count ** (1st round)

    Deandre Hopkins (WR) - 38 (1st round)

    Aaron Dobson (WR) - 37 (2nd round)

     
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    Re: Dropped Passes

    yeah its all bradys fault , he runs the wrong routes, drops catchable balls, cant stay healty on the field , cant get seperation .

     
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    Re: Dropped Passes

    In response to Low-FB-IQ's comment:

    This is NOT a conclusion or statement of anything regarding dropped passes as it relates to anyone in particular on the Patriots.

    Just information, in case anyone wanted to know.

    Yes the Patriots, as a team currently lead the league in dropped passes with 23 (WR's, TE's, RB's etc.). 19 are by WR group(12 by the two rookies). 4 by RB group. 0 by TE group.

    How are dropped passes defined? I have no idea. Hopefully no matter how they are defined it is simply consistently judged by the same single person across the league. Otherwise it is probably a lot like calling PI. Some are obvious and some are so close that the call is judgement and could go either way.

    Some notable players and drops. (some are in 5 gms and some 6 gms, different tgt amounts)

    Dobson - 6

    Thompkins - 6

    Edelman - 5

    Tavon Austin - 7

    Calvin Johnson - 4

    Eric Decker - 5

    Wes Welker - 4

    Devone Bess - 4

    Josh Gordon - 4

    Stevie Johnson - 4

    Reggie Wayne - 3

    Steve Smith - 3

    AJ Green - 3

    Hakeem Nicks - 3

     

    Team incompletions per game (? Bad pass, did not see open WR, defended pass, dropped ball, miscommunication, etc?)

    Patriots ranked 29th at 17.17 incompletions per game.

    Patriots ranked 30th with 103 total incompletions through 6 weeks (** 8 teams have only played 5 games though, so who knows where they would be if all teams played 6 games **)

    103 - 23drops = 80 incompletions to fall in those other categories in some combination

     

    Passing attempts

    Patriots are 5th in passing attempts at 239 (39.83 attempts per game)

    39.83 - 3.8 drops/gm = 36 passing plays a game left to some combination of ((Bad pass, did not see open WR, miscommunication, [or otherwise known as failed execution]) defended pass,  Completions, etc?)

     

    Most Targets by Rookie Catchers (all are in the top 58 for all NFL receiver options(WR, TE, RB) in total targets)

    Jordan Cameron (TE) - 54 (4th round)

    Thompkins (WR) - 50 (UdFA)

    Robert Woods (WR) - 45 (2nd round)

    Tavon Austin (WR) - 41 **another rookie with a high drop count ** (1st round)

    Deandre Hopkins (WR) - 38 (1st round)

    Aaron Dobson (WR) - 37 (2nd round)



    would be interesting to see how this compares to last year's numbers...is that available to you?

     
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    blame is all around on that offense. brady's been off. WRs too inconsistent. O-line has NOT been as good as they should be. many things need improvement

     
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    Re: Dropped Passes

    http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2012/

    2012 stat leaders for the pats were:

    welker 10 drops 67.4% compelition rate 

    hernandez 9 drops. 61.4%

    Lloyd 6 drops 56.9%

    Gronk 6 drops 68.8%

    woodhead 0 drops 72.2% amazing no drops 

    dropson lex hiliard 3 drops off 9 passes targeted

    total drops 41 drops

     

     
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    Re: Dropped Passes

    Blame is on plenty. Mediocre protection for Brady last game. Dropsies on WRs and Brady is overthrowing (Amendola incomplete) and underthrowing (HOU complete). The key salient point is that this offense needs to be little more synchronized and precise. This has happened to some degree. This offense gets a serious jolt when Gronk gets back for obvious reasons (in line blocker match-up nightmare). The D I have no problem with provided they are healthy. Brady throwing INTs in the 4th quarter is bad news all around. And at its not a personal thing; throwing INTs in the 4th is bad for any QB anywhere.  Granted Brady came back and did the two-minute drill in under two minutes, however, like some on this board, I still believe you can't give the other team's O the ball (especially top ten offense like the Saints) and let them run out the clock.  Definitely don't want this happening come playoff time.

     
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    Re: Dropped Passes

    In response to Harvey-Wallbanger's comment:

    Their new to the system. 

    Get to a local community college.



    They are = they're

    Community college. LOL. How about some GRADE SCHOOL for you? 

     
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    Re: Dropped Passes

    In response to JohnHannahrulz's comment:

    Blame is on plenty. Mediocre protection for Brady last game. Dropsies on WRs and Brady is overthrowing (Amendola incomplete) and underthrowing (HOU complete). The key salient point is that this offense needs to be little more synchronized and precise. This has happened to some degree. This offense gets a serious jolt when Gronk gets back for obvious reasons (in line blocker match-up nightmare). The D I have no problem with provided they are healthy. Brady throwing INTs in the 4th quarter is bad news all around. And at its not a personal thing; throwing INTs in the 4th is bad for any QB anywhere.  Granted Brady came back and did the two-minute drill in under two minutes, however, like some on this board, I still believe you can't give the other team's O the ball (especially top ten offense like the Saints) and let them run out the clock.  Definitely don't want this happening come playoff time.



    I've had a hard time finding numbers for how many hits, pressures, sacks, and rushes the OL has let up by game and year.  The OL was pretty bad for the cincy game too.

     
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    Re: Dropped Passes

    TB / receivers / Oline all have a piece

    against no

    Brady got hit how many times? A few were on slot blitzes 

    There were a number of drops

    TB missed 3 clear open recvers?

    but

    All were outstnding in the first half

    and most importantly on the last drive

    At the level they are playing-and how fast the play, any indecision will yield sub results.

    In this case they still put up 30 pts, 

    People only remember the last drive

    To me they have improved and they still haven't reached their potential

    The thing the Pats have right now is a greater upside than all other teams

    and that's what we should focus on

     
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    Re: Dropped Passes

    Passes have to be catchable and uncontested for them to be deemed a drop when a WR fails to catch them.

     
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    Re: Dropped Passes

    "This is NOT a conclusion or statement of anything regarding dropped passes as it relates to anyone in particular on the Patriots"

     

     

    lol. You gotta be a Lawyer or A professional Warning Label writer.

     

     
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    Re: Dropped Passes

    hole handy

     
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    Re: Dropped Passes


    They are rookie receivers and the team is 5-1...there's NOTHING wrong here...lol...I don't think they've played a complete game on Off. yet this season...they will...and forget about them having everyone healthy at one time...no one does anymore, every team is missing several guys at once...EVERY TEAM....so what else is new?

     
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