Re: Dungy Thoughts ?
posted at 7/23/2014 9:50 AM EDT
In response to pcmIV's comment:
In response to DougIrwin's comment:
No offense, but you and others are missing the point of all of this:
Sam clearly went through some things as an openly gay player at Missouri, as have any players, male and female who were told not not be themselves and simply live their lives the best they know how. Clearly, and I mean CLEARLY, he is a trailblazer like Jackie Robinson or the first female anything to be considered a male equal.
This whole thing will make hundreds and thousands (decades later) of people's lives easier to get from high school football to college and into the NFL who just so happen to be gay. It's just that simple. Wake up and smell the roses.
Maybe you need some culture in Chicago? Are you in the burbs or the city? You never answered me. lol
Since you're a bit young, you probably just need some culture to realize there is more in this world than the simple things in front of you.
This isn't about him promoting himself in the NFL, it's about sacrificing himself to make it easier for people just like him to go through the process just like someone like a Jackie Robinson. Jackie was clearly black and a minority and Sam clearly gay and an athlete trying to pretend to be something who he wasn't to comply with what the public thinks the NFL wants.
God forbid an American college athlete be a real, genuine person instead of feeling forced to pretend.
All men are created equal. Remember?
Please wake up.
I commend jjbag for stepping forward and I am uncomfortable watching the obvious, creepy bigotry on display in this thread. The people who are bigots don't even know they are. Creepy.
Dungy can walk in front of a truck tomorrow and I celebrate his death. People like that are absolutely disgusting and have no place on earth, and especially in this country.
PS Tony Dungy has re-arranged the definition of a hypocrite.
Getting called a bigot by a guy that says he would celebrate the death of another person doesn't particularly bother me Rusty. You should change your name to Strawman King because you are attributing all sorts of opinions to me that have no basis in reality. Hitting the bottle a little early bud?
Things I never said:
- Gay athletes should have to pretend they are straight
- Sam came out as a publicity stunt
My only point was Dungy saying he wouldn't draft Sam, but supporting Vick doesn't make him a bigot. Although I am sure given his religious views he probably is one.
Well, I believe the world is certainly better off without those in it who try to ruin it for others. So yes, if Dungy got hit by a truck today, I think the world would be a better place. You keep showing how badly you're missing Dungy's hypocrisy here.
How can you not see him thinking Vick torturing dogs as a straight man as just fine and dandy and some cultural misunderstanding, while Sam, being himself and blazing a trail for others, bravely so, is not a phony like Vick and Dungy?
Each Vick and DUngy are in love with themselves and delusional. Vick is a college graduate and he thought it was normal to have a concentration camp for dogs across many states a la Adolf Hitler? Really? So, while all his classmates take their dogs to the park, he goes off into the woods to watch dogs kill each other for entertainment and relaxation? Do ya think Dungy had his bible handy teaching Vick lessons before or after Vick realized he is a cuckoo bird?
It's all an act with them. Meanwhile, Sam is as real and genuine as they come. And, he's brave. He knows he didn't have to do that, but he didn't want those social barriers holding back others that come after him.
Life is about progressing, being a good person and moving forward. Dungy does NONE of that and hides behind a bible because he is an insecure loser. To top it off, he uses his media platform to tell the public how it should be, which makes it worse.
You're completely daft if you think Dungy isn't a bigot along with some in this thread. The fact Sam being gay is still an issue in society to this day enough for it to be an issue, should tell you all you need to know.
It's 2014 and we're still talking about this because of the Dungys and people like you who pretend Dungy is just fine confirming the idea that bigotry is alive and well and the fact Sam might be gay or confirms he is gay, is a way to discriminate for sanctimonius, religious tools like Dungy. Or, you clearly showing you don't get Dungy's hypocrisy with his son's suicide and taking more time to invest in Vick than his own son.
Are you kidding me here? He's a walking disgrace and should have nothing to say on the matter whatsoever.
His own son killed himself over it and Dungy still doesn't get it. People like Dungy are the problem. They live in these little scary bubbles and hide behind the bible thinking that is the end all be all of solutions to problems.
Living your life behind a bible is disturbing, especially when it's put above reality, truth and logic.